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    Post by Super Progress Tue May 06, 2008 4:43 pm

    golsud wrote:Mourinho+a renovation in the squad and the fascists won't win the league next season <Ale>
    But since that wont happen you might aswell congratulate the francos on next years title, no? Very Happy
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Tue May 06, 2008 4:45 pm

    cule do you really want moron-io, his football is truly terrible
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    Post by golsud Tue May 06, 2008 4:46 pm

    The-Frank-Tavern wrote:cule do you really wany moron-io, his football is truly terrible

    He will play good football, he has said in the press (well implied) that he would have to adapt to the philosophy of Barça <Ale>

    MOURINHO YA!!!!!!
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    Post by Jaime Tue May 06, 2008 4:47 pm

    Mourinho is a winner, I wouldn't want him in the Camp Nou. Good thing he is going to Inter. ok
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    Post by Super Progress Tue May 06, 2008 4:50 pm

    I hope Mourinho goes to Valencia where he would be more able apply his normal tactics plus he could provide a third big club in spain.
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    Post by Barrilete Tue May 06, 2008 4:56 pm

    golsud wrote:
    The-Frank-Tavern wrote:cule do you really wany moron-io, his football is truly terrible

    He will play good football, he has said in the press (well implied) that he would have to adapt to the philosophy of Barça <Ale>

    MOURINHO YA!!!!!!

    and so the myth that barcelona fans prioritize good footie over titles goes to the trash!!!

    They 're no different from any other trophy seeking fans!!! cheers
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    Post by Super Progress Tue May 06, 2008 5:00 pm

    Barrilete_Cosmico wrote:
    golsud wrote:
    The-Frank-Tavern wrote:cule do you really wany moron-io, his football is truly terrible

    He will play good football, he has said in the press (well implied) that he would have to adapt to the philosophy of Barça <Ale>

    MOURINHO YA!!!!!!

    and so the myth that barcelona fans prioritize good footie over titles goes to the trash!!!

    They 're no different from any other trophy seeking fans!!! cheers
    Of course some fans will want to turn things around. in the end if the club president wants to get mourinho then there is nothing they can do. for example there were several madrid fans i knew that wanted Capello but when the team started playing they got in his back very quickly. they fooled themselves into thinking that he would adapt to madrids style which didnt happen at all.
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    Post by golsud Tue May 06, 2008 5:04 pm

    Read my post properly Barrilete. Si quieres te lo pongo en castellano para que lo entiendas. Mourinho ha dicho que se tendria que adaptar a la filosofia del Barça, si lo hace o no es otra cosa.
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    Post by Barrilete Tue May 06, 2008 5:08 pm

    golsud wrote:Read my post properly Barrilete. Si quieres te lo pongo en castellano para que lo entiendas. Mourinho ha dicho que se tendria que adaptar a la filosofia del Barça, si lo hace o no es otra cosa.

    Laughing

    just messing with you, I understood what you said perfectly...both times
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    Post by Juligen Tue May 06, 2008 5:10 pm

    golsud wrote:Read my post properly Barrilete. Si quieres te lo pongo en castellano para que lo entiendas. Mourinho ha dicho que se tendria que adaptar a la filosofia del Barça, si lo hace o no es otra cosa.

    Doh And did you believe him?
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    Post by golsud Tue May 06, 2008 5:17 pm

    Juligen wrote:
    golsud wrote:Read my post properly Barrilete. Si quieres te lo pongo en castellano para que lo entiendas. Mourinho ha dicho que se tendria que adaptar a la filosofia del Barça, si lo hace o no es otra cosa.

    Doh And did you believe him?

    Yes. I don't know why he would lie about that. I'm sure he's not desperate for the Barça job...
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    Post by golsud Tue May 06, 2008 5:21 pm

    Barrilete_Cosmico wrote:
    golsud wrote:Read my post properly Barrilete. Si quieres te lo pongo en castellano para que lo entiendas. Mourinho ha dicho que se tendria que adaptar a la filosofia del Barça, si lo hace o no es otra cosa.

    Laughing

    just messing with you, I understood what you said perfectly...both times

    Es que los madridistas se lo toman en serio y no me gusta que nos comparen (indirectamente) a los mandriles. En el Camp Nou no nos gusta ver mierda pinchada en un palo como en el Cuernabeu Wink
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    Post by toon h Tue May 06, 2008 5:22 pm

    I did not say FC Barcelona is the greatest club in the world. I said that IN SOME RESPECTS it could possibly call itself that, the same as that Real, Man U, or Milan could (using perhaps slightly different criteria)

    I challenge anyone to come up with a CLUB that has:
    - won as many trophies AS A CLUB (not just football)
    - has as many paying members
    - represents and has represented as much to an entire region/nation in a cultural and political sense
    - a similar popular organization (where members are the factual owners of the club)
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    Post by Parks lives Tue May 06, 2008 5:26 pm

    Why would Milan and Real Madrid care about winning trophies in other sports Toon? scratch
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Tue May 06, 2008 5:27 pm

    Parks lives wrote:Why would Milan and Real Madrid care about winning trophies in other sports Toon? scratch
    Madriz do parky FACT
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    Post by Parks lives Tue May 06, 2008 5:28 pm

    But why is it included in what makes a great football club?
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Tue May 06, 2008 5:29 pm

    did he mention football?
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    Post by golsud Tue May 06, 2008 5:33 pm

    -Barça have more professionals teams apart from the football. Basket,Futbol Sala, Rink Hockey and Handball (the last two are by far the best in the world). Also there are loads of semi-pro/amateur teams (rugbi,voleibol,athletics,baseball,ice hockey etc..)
    -One of the three Spanish League clubs to never be relegated (the other are Athletic Club and Madrit).
    -Won the first league (1929).
    -Had players like Maradona,Cruijff,Romario to name a few.
    -The biggest stadium of European Clubs and a 15,000 stadium for the B team.
    -The club have more than 150,000 members paying 150€ per year.
    -The club have more than 1.300 official supporters groups around the world.

    And much more which I can't remember now.
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    Post by Parks lives Tue May 06, 2008 5:36 pm

    The-Frank-Tavern wrote:did he mention football?

    There was me thinking it would be football club seeing as we are on a football forum. Erm
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    Post by Machiavel Tue May 06, 2008 5:39 pm

    golsud wrote:
    -Had players like Maradona,Cruijff,Romario to name a few.

    Wait a second both Maradona & Cruijff hardly made their names at Barcelona; in fact between them they won 1 league title at the Camp Nou. This is not a legitimate excuse. Don’t think their tenures at the Club were that successful, sure Cruijff won the Ballon d’Or at Barça that just highlighted one great season (including the sacking of Madrid) In truth he already was better than any other player in the World.

    Ladislao Kubala now that was one player.
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    Post by golsud Tue May 06, 2008 5:43 pm

    Mattheus wrote:
    golsud wrote:
    -Had players like Maradona,Cruijff,Romario to name a few.

    Wait a second both Maradona & Cruijff hardly made their names at Barcelona; in fact between them they won 1 league title at the Camp Nou. This is not a legitimate excuse. Don’t think their tenures at the Club were that successful, sure Cruijff won the Ballon d’Or at Barça that just highlighted one great season (including the sacking of Madrid) In truth he already was better than any other player in the World.

    Ladislao Kubala now that was one player.

    Doesn't matter. Which other club can say they've had legends like Cruijff & Maradona playing for them? NONE.
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    Post by Jaime Tue May 06, 2008 5:43 pm

    golsud wrote:-Barça have more professionals teams apart from the football. Basket,Futbol Sala, Rink Hockey and Handball (the last two are by far the best in the world). Also there are loads of semi-pro/amateur teams (rugbi,voleibol,athletics,baseball,ice hockey etc..)

    You forgot figure skating! lol!
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    Post by golsud Tue May 06, 2008 5:45 pm

    Jaime wrote:
    golsud wrote:-Barça have more professionals teams apart from the football. Basket,Futbol Sala, Rink Hockey and Handball (the last two are by far the best in the world). Also there are loads of semi-pro/amateur teams (rugbi,voleibol,athletics,baseball,ice hockey etc..)

    You forgot figure skating! lol!

    I didn't remember them all. There is also Wheelchair Basketball,Hockey (the one on grass) and baseball <Ale>
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    Post by Machiavel Tue May 06, 2008 5:49 pm

    golsud wrote:
    Mattheus wrote:
    golsud wrote:
    -Had players like Maradona,Cruijff,Romario to name a few.

    Wait a second both Maradona & Cruijff hardly made their names at Barcelona; in fact between them they won 1 league title at the Camp Nou. This is not a legitimate excuse. Don’t think their tenures at the Club were that successful, sure Cruijff won the Ballon d’Or at Barça that just highlighted one great season (including the sacking of Madrid) In truth he already was better than any other player in the World.

    Ladislao Kubala now that was one player.

    Doesn't matter. Which other club can say they've had legends like Cruijff & Maradona playing for them? NONE.

    Now imagine if they were both in the same team at their peaks = world domination (as long as you have a good defence)
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    Post by Oleguerisntthatbad Tue May 06, 2008 6:51 pm

    Barrilete_Cosmico wrote:
    golsud wrote:
    The-Frank-Tavern wrote:cule do you really wany moron-io, his football is truly terrible

    He will play good football, he has said in the press (well implied) that he would have to adapt to the philosophy of Barça <Ale>

    MOURINHO YA!!!!!!

    and so the myth that barcelona fans prioritize good footie over titles goes to the trash!!!

    They 're no different from any other trophy seeking fans!!! cheers

    It is only Golsud that wants him!!! kas and I are firmly against (and I think Messiah too)
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    Post by golsud Tue May 06, 2008 7:05 pm

    Oleguerisntthatbad wrote:
    Barrilete_Cosmico wrote:
    golsud wrote:
    The-Frank-Tavern wrote:cule do you really wany moron-io, his football is truly terrible

    He will play good football, he has said in the press (well implied) that he would have to adapt to the philosophy of Barça <Ale>

    MOURINHO YA!!!!!!

    and so the myth that barcelona fans prioritize good footie over titles goes to the trash!!!

    They 're no different from any other trophy seeking fans!!! cheers

    It is only Golsud that wants him!!! kas and I are firmly against (and I think Messiah too)

    And about half or more cules are with me!!!
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    Post by Super Progress Tue May 06, 2008 8:18 pm

    golsud wrote:
    Oleguerisntthatbad wrote:
    Barrilete_Cosmico wrote:
    golsud wrote:
    The-Frank-Tavern wrote:cule do you really wany moron-io, his football is truly terrible

    He will play good football, he has said in the press (well implied) that he would have to adapt to the philosophy of Barça <Ale>

    MOURINHO YA!!!!!!

    and so the myth that barcelona fans prioritize good footie over titles goes to the trash!!!

    They 're no different from any other trophy seeking fans!!! cheers

    It is only Golsud that wants him!!! kas and I are firmly against (and I think Messiah too)

    And about half or more cules are with me!!!
    Also didnt polls on SPORT show the same? i think the barcelona fans also chanted his name in training a couple of weeks ago so it seems that there is more then just golsud who want him.
    i suspect just like with Capello that the fans will turn on him if the football gets ugly.
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    Post by fcb Wed May 07, 2008 6:02 am

    The majority of fans do want Mourinho in, but like supermadrid said, when he wins, it's bearable at best. Imagine when he loses Yikes

    Also, I'm not convinced that Mourinho really made, or can keep, any kind of promise to "change his style". At Chelsea he played the same football as at Porto, and everyone was happy because they won titles. The 4-3-3 with Robben and Duff wasn't that bad to watch either, but was essentially still always about making sure you're covered at the back first before going forward.

    But when Abramovich started demanding better football, Mourinho couldn't deliver. And worst of all, in his desperation to win the CL, he came up with that absolutely awful diamond midfield, featuring 4 CMs, and with all the play going through the middle, focused on power and strength rather than any flair or skill.
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    Post by fcb Wed May 07, 2008 6:57 am

    Both papers now going on a charm offensive to try and convince people (and themselves) about Guardiola. Here's an article from MD, similar to some stuff that SPORT has. Both seem to agree that Guardiola will bring his own team of staff up from the B team...but we really need to have at least one experience staff member/coach IMO!

    http://www.elmundodeportivo.es/web/gen/20080507/noticia_53461783361.html

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