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    Post by lrdsucksgoats Fri May 30, 2008 8:42 pm

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/7428382.stm

    It isn't just Madrid who ride roughshod over smaller clubs.
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    Post by Luis Fri May 30, 2008 8:45 pm

    Good on Stevie
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    Post by COTR Fri May 30, 2008 8:50 pm

    Luis wrote:Good on Stevie

    Laughing


    Great move by gerrard to improve relations between villa and us cyclops


    On the other hand, barry has clearly been talking to him about this in private so this move is going to happen. Let's just hope juve give us a fortune for alonso because we are going to need to it get villa to sell
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    Post by Luis Fri May 30, 2008 8:53 pm

    'I think Gareth is 27 now and he needs to play Champions League football'

    Steven Gerrard

    Is right. It's a crime if O neill forces him to stay
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    Post by COTR Fri May 30, 2008 8:56 pm

    Luis wrote:'I think Gareth is 27 now and he needs to play Champions League football'

    Steven Gerrard

    Is right. It's a crime if O neill forces him to stay


    It's got nothing to do with gerrard luis

    Barry should be telling this to O'Neill himself, which he has already indicated he will do after these england games


    Gerrard, like most footballers, is just not very clever. All he has to do is say these things in private to barry, not in public. O'Neill is going to be delighted reading this Biggrin
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    Post by debaser Fri May 30, 2008 8:59 pm

    Bad move to piss off O'Neill even more. He is the kind of stubborn bastard who might just cut off a deal on principle.

    £20m, I say. He could be England captain by the weekend, that's gotta add a few mill Wink
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    Post by COTR Fri May 30, 2008 9:02 pm

    In other news


    Pompey riding roughshod over liverpool Razz


    "It would be great if Crouchie came," said Defoe. "He is still under contract at Liverpool but we will see.

    "I think we can go far next season but we do need a bigger squad."

    Having claimed the 2008 FA Cup, Pompey will be making their first foray into the UEFA Cup next season.
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    Post by COTR Fri May 30, 2008 9:03 pm

    debaser wrote:Bad move to piss off O'Neill even more. He is the kind of stubborn bastard who might just cut off a deal on principle.

    £20m, I say. He could be England captain by the weekend, that's gotta add a few mill Wink

    I think it will end up as 12M plus carson mate

    Rafa might even throw riise in to make it even more painful for you Wink
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    Post by debaser Fri May 30, 2008 9:31 pm

    No I refuse to believe it

    We're signing Joe Hart, and Barry's going to stay, and everything's going to be wonderful. Lalalala Very Happy
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    Post by Football Genius Fri May 30, 2008 9:39 pm

    debaser wrote:No I refuse to believe it

    We're signing Joe Hart, and Barry's going to stay, and everything's going to be wonderful. Lalalala Very Happy

    Barry won't make or break Villa - likewise i don't think he'll make or break Liverpool.

    The money will be useful if you get to use it at Villa and bring in 1 maybe 2 quality players, and for us he would be another englishman in the team cheers and quite possibly a more consistant replacement for Alonso Ale

    Whatever happens, i hope it stays dignified.
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    Post by debaser Fri May 30, 2008 9:42 pm

    True, it wouldn't be a complete catastrophe, but it would be a bad sign, for one of our best players to go - and he won't be easy to replace.

    I just hope it gets sorted soon. If he goes, O'Neill is going to need lots of time to get a replacement. Don't want this dragging on for months.
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    Post by Kimbo Fri May 30, 2008 9:42 pm

    What a disgusting slimy little cheating cockroach Gerrard is. No player should do this, it's an unethical and dirty move. <Ale>
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    Post by lrdsucksgoats Fri May 30, 2008 9:44 pm

    Kimbo wrote:What a disgusting slimy little cheating cockroach Gerrard is. No player should do this, it's an unethical and dirty move. <Ale>

    Smile
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    Post by COTR Fri May 30, 2008 9:47 pm

    Kimbo wrote:What a disgusting slimy little cheating cockroach Gerrard is. No player should do this, it's an unethical and dirty move. <Ale>

    What about defoe kimmy ? Wink
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    Post by Football Genius Fri May 30, 2008 9:50 pm

    debaser wrote:True, it wouldn't be a complete catastrophe, but it would be a bad sign, for one of our best players to go - and he won't be easy to replace.

    I just hope it gets sorted soon. If he goes, O'Neill is going to need lots of time to get a replacement. Don't want this dragging on for months.

    That's a fair comment, just out of interest.. how long does he actually have left on his contract?
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    Post by Kimbo Fri May 30, 2008 9:53 pm

    COTR wrote:
    Kimbo wrote:What a disgusting slimy little cheating cockroach Gerrard is. No player should do this, it's an unethical and dirty move. <Ale>

    What about defoe kimmy ? Wink

    He shouldn't be commenting either. It is a bit different though as Villa obviously don't want to sell Barry, the fans don't want him sold, and Barry doesn't seem to be pushing for the move yet. Liverpool on the other hand want rid of Crouch, he wants to leave, and the fans want rid, so not much damage will be done.
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    Post by debaser Fri May 30, 2008 9:54 pm

    2 years, I think.
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    Post by Football Genius Fri May 30, 2008 9:55 pm

    debaser wrote:2 years, I think.

    Does that mean he could effective 'buy out' himself from the contract? or is that at 28?
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    Post by COTR Fri May 30, 2008 9:58 pm

    Kimbo wrote:
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    Kimbo wrote:What a disgusting slimy little cheating cockroach Gerrard is. No player should do this, it's an unethical and dirty move. <Ale>

    What about defoe kimmy ? Wink

    He shouldn't be commenting either. It is a bit different though as Villa obviously don't want to sell Barry, the fans don't want him sold, and Barry doesn't seem to be pushing for the move yet. Liverpool on the other hand want rid of Crouch, he wants to leave, and the fans want rid, so not much damage will be done.

    I agree, but we offered crouch a new contract so it's not so clear cut Wink

    The timing of gerrard saying this is relevant imo. They have clearly had a chat about while twiddling their thumbs in their £1,000 a night hotel. Barry is too good a pro to disrespect villa but I think the lure of this move will be too much for him. It's an exciting time in his career and he would be a fool not to push for the move. I know you don't agree but c'est la vie
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    Post by debaser Fri May 30, 2008 9:59 pm

    Football Genius wrote:
    debaser wrote:2 years, I think.

    Does that mean he could effective 'buy out' himself from the contract? or is that at 28?
    I don't know the rules on that. I can't see Barry being the type of player to do so anyway, so it's a bit of a moot point.
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    Post by Football Genius Fri May 30, 2008 10:03 pm

    debaser wrote:
    Football Genius wrote:
    debaser wrote:2 years, I think.

    Does that mean he could effective 'buy out' himself from the contract? or is that at 28?
    I don't know the rules on that. I can't see Barry being the type of player to do so anyway, so it's a bit of a moot point.

    I'd agree, it was more me being inquisitive.
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    Post by Machiavel Fri May 30, 2008 10:05 pm

    Barry does need CL football to be fair, maybe like Carrick he will win it Ale but in the process he will lose his England place.
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    Post by COTR Fri May 30, 2008 10:07 pm

    Markus wrote:Barry does need CL football to be fair, maybe like Carrick he will win it Ale but in the process he will lose his England place.

    Biggrin

    I think capello just watched all carrick's england performances and made a decision from them rai

    it's a much better explanantion cyclops


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    Post by Football Genius Fri May 30, 2008 10:11 pm

    For my money Carrick offers more in a 4-4-2 than Lampard, and thus should have had a crack with Capello over him, but you know thats just my opinion, its no surprise in 2 years Carrick has been at United hes won back to back titles and a European cup, he keeps things simple a bit like Barry, the reason i think Barry shows more for England than Carrick has is because he is left footed and gives balance to an otherwise right footed midfield quatro.

    Carrick isn't spectacular but he keeps the ball moving to the more talented attacking players - not much difference between Barry and Carrick for my money, perhaps Barry is more mobile as well.
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    Post by Machiavel Fri May 30, 2008 10:11 pm

    COTR please cease with this juvenile behaviour. I’m a football purist I still can’t get round why a player who has performed at a consistent level for his team cannot get into the England squad, nonsense Cappelo base his reason on no selecting Carrick on past performances, what kind of regime is trying to ruin England? then again I should really not care.
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    Post by Brian2468 Sat May 31, 2008 3:08 am

    Markus wrote:COTR please cease with this juvenile behaviour. I’m a football purist I still can’t get round why a player who has performed at a consistent level for his team cannot get into the England squad, nonsense Cappelo base his reason on no selecting Carrick on past performances, what kind of regime is trying to ruin England? then again I should really not care.

    Capello from the beginning has gone with picking players that show strong leadership qualities. Carrick will get his chance but it will be when he feels the squad is ready to bring him in. At United he is surrounded by players brimming with confidence and world class ability. The England side is very different they have been struggling for a while. Carrick is a team player with lots of talent, but at times has showed a lack self belief playing for England. Once the squad is strong enough mentally then putting in Carrick becomes positive. Just like at club level with United.
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    Post by fcb Sat May 31, 2008 8:56 am

    Look Tweedle, it's a dirty johnny foreigner Barcelona player trying to charm a transfer target before they've joined. Shock horror!!!

    Hypocrites.
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    Post by gone Sat May 31, 2008 9:28 am

    Fidel wrote:http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/7428382.stm

    It isn't just Madrid who ride roughshod over smaller clubs.

    So United is a smaller club then Real?
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    Post by Parks lives Sat May 31, 2008 9:29 am

    Brian2468 wrote:
    Markus wrote:COTR please cease with this juvenile behaviour. I’m a football purist I still can’t get round why a player who has performed at a consistent level for his team cannot get into the England squad, nonsense Cappelo base his reason on no selecting Carrick on past performances, what kind of regime is trying to ruin England? then again I should really not care.

    Capello from the beginning has gone with picking players that show strong leadership qualities. Carrick will get his chance but it will be when he feels the squad is ready to bring him in. At United he is surrounded by players brimming with confidence and world class ability. The England side is very different they have been struggling for a while. Carrick is a team player with lots of talent, but at times has showed a lack self belief playing for England. Once the squad is strong enough mentally then putting in Carrick becomes positive. Just like at club level with United.

    Nice post Brian.

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    Post by gone Sat May 31, 2008 9:32 am

    Parks lives wrote:Nice post Brian.

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    Every club is.

    At the level that United, Real, Milan, Barca, Liverpool, Chelsea, etc. are you can't use the "big club with a lot more money is stealing our player". All of those clubs have money to keep their players.

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