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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Fri Jun 06, 2008 1:55 pm

    ...........by Adrian Chiles

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1252696.ece

    By ADRIAN CHILES
    A new voice in The Sun



    HERE’S how most of my conversations go at the moment: "How are you?"

    "Fine."

    "What you doing once The Apprentice finishes?"

    "Oh, I’m off to Austria for three weeks."

    "Austria? What for?"

    "The Euros."

    "The what?"

    This makes me mad. Because if England had the remotest clue about
    football and had managed to scrape a draw with Croatia on a rainy night
    in November it would be a different story now.

    England would have qualified and complete strangers would be stopping
    me in the street to ask if Lampard and Gerrard could function properly
    together in the same midfield (don’t see why not), if David James has
    cut the calamities out of his game (probably not) and if we’ll win any
    penalty shoot-out (definitely not).

    Colleagues of mine who know nothing about football would be telling me
    about private jets their partners’ merchant banks had chartered to take
    them all out to Klagenfurt or Vienna or wherever.

    A champagne breakfast and eight course meal would be thrown in, naturally.

    But, as it is, without England in attendance, those private jets will
    stay on the tarmac at various deserted airfields that us ordinary
    mortals have never heard of, let alone flown out of.





    You’ll have gathered that casual football fans who enjoy the occasional day out at a big game, really, really wind me up.

    I don’t think you should be allowed at a big game unless you’ve done
    enough smaller games and you’ve got ticket stubs from Andorra, Croatia,
    Macedonia, wherever, to prove you’ve done the hard miles.

    It’s a bit like the Apprentice show I do, You’re Fired.

    All through the run I’m asked for audience tickets and I’m always happy to oblige if I can.

    What I can’t bear is those who ask me for tickets, but only for the final.

    No, sorry, can’t help.

    If they haven’t bothered showing up for the earlier shows, they can’t
    really care enough, and so they can whistle for tickets to the final.

    It’s all about how much you care, and there’s nothing worse in my view
    than a football fan at a really big game who doesn’t care.

    A case in point was the play-off final for a place in the Premier League between Hull City and Bristol City.

    Finals of any competition are when attendance figures stop adding up.

    The likes of Bristol City, whose average gate is xxxx, somehow manage to conjure up ***** to go to Wembley.

    Who are these extra **** fans?

    Where have they been all season? I wouldn’t let them in.




    Ten minutes before the end of that match, with Bristol losing 1-0, the
    camera lingered on their fans for a moment looking for suitably morose
    looks.

    But no, half the people in the shot spotted themselves on the big screen and stood up waving and grinning.

    Their (or supposedly their) team is just about to see the season end in
    bitter disappointment and some of their so-called fans are waving and
    grinning!




    As it is I’m sure they took their brand new replica tops home, gave
    them a wash, sent them to the charity shop, and won’t have given the
    whole ghastly business a second thought until the next time, if there
    is a next time, which there probably won’t be, though they won’t shed
    any tears about that either.

    But for all that I feel sad that these people won’t now be drawn in to this summer’s festival of football.

    The fact is I’m sad because I won’t get to see them suffer.

    I love seeing fair weather fans with their heads in their hands in early summer every other year.

    It’s nice to know they’re going through what the rest of us got through year in, year out.

    Early in Euro 2004, England threw away a 1-0 lead over France to lose 2-1 right at the death.

    I’m ashamed to say I enjoyed watching my mother-in-law in pain.

    Not because I don’t love her, rather that I wanted her to know how it is for me supporting West Brom.

    It’s all right for her and her like. They only have to go through this misery every couple of years.

    I suffer like this at least every other weekend.

    For the first time ever she looked at me with comprehension.

    She finally seemed to understand why I’m driven half mad by football.

    But that’s not going to happen this time because England aren’t there.

    So the casual fan simply won’t get interested and won’t get to feel footballing pain.

    At the other end of the football supporting scale are the absolute
    aficionados, for whom the next three weeks represent footballing
    paradise.

    Free from the agony of supporting England they’ll be able to really concentrate.

    They’ll take time off work, shut the curtains and wallow in it all. They’ll feel part of an exclusive club.

    With the part-time England fans busy doing something else, the aficionados will have the tournament to themselves.

    They’ll be like a small group of art lovers enjoying a private tour of the Tate Modern while the public are locked out.

    But I find this terribly earnest breed of fan rather troubling too.







    They’ll sidle up to me in pubs, or turn around from the driver’s seat
    of their cabs, and say things like "I think Ujfalusi might be a weak
    link for the Czechs, don’t you?" or "how do you think the Turks are
    going to set-up, 4-1-3-2 or 4-1-2-1-2?"

    I’ll nod thoughtfully, murmur agreement and change the subject before I can be found out.

    There’s a big drive in the media to get people to choose a team to support as if that makes the tournament more interesting.

    Well, it might.

    But I’d strongly counsel against doing so, because it’s actually rather
    nice to just watch lots of football without supporting anyone, without
    leaving your fingerprints in the side of your armchair, and without
    going to bed miserable after England have gone out on penalties.




    Tournaments, on reflection, are terrible things. Cruel, barbaric even.

    Think about it: 16 sets of fans and 15 of them go home miserable.
    Shouldn’t really be allowed. And you lucky lot don’t have to be part of
    it this time.




    I, on the other hand, do.

    As my mum’s Croatian I have them to support.

    I’m trying to keep things in perspective and tell myself it’s great to
    see them on the big stage again and winning isn’t everything blah blah
    blah, but tomorrow I’ll be on the night train from Zagreb to Vienna
    (change Salzburg 4.01am) filming Croatia’s red and white army on the
    move.

    By the time the train pulls in I’ll be emotional and once the national
    anthem strikes up there’ll be tears running down my cheeks.

    I’ll be desperate, just desperate, for them to go all the way.

    But sooner or later, Croatia will be knocked out and I’ll be miserable.

    At that moment please think of me and thank your lucky stars for just a
    moment that England didn’t manage to scrape that draw last November.
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    Post by Axeslammer Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:04 pm

    nice one Ale
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    Post by Kimbo Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:04 pm

    The-Frank-Tavern wrote:
    England would have qualified and complete strangers would be stopping
    me in the street to ask if Lampard and Gerrard could function properly
    together in the same midfield (don’t see why not)
    Do you not? Really?
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:09 pm

    i didn't write it thats childs' comment
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    Post by Kimbo Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:11 pm

    No $h!t. There's me thinking you write for the Sun.
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    Post by Luis Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:40 pm

    The fact that you read the s*n explains a lot about you Frank.
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    Post by Roger Hunt Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:45 pm

    It's a shame, because Chiles is quite amusing and talks sense.

    He is dead to me now. Omerta.
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:56 pm

    Luis wrote:The fact that you read the s*n explains a lot about you Frank.

    I think he only bought it for the Big Brother pull-out Lulu
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Fri Jun 06, 2008 3:01 pm

    Glenn Hysén wrote:
    Luis wrote:The fact that you read the s*n explains a lot about you Frank.

    I think he only bought it for the Big Brother pull-out Lulu
    it was posted on a ccfc board thats how i found it, never bought the paper, and never read it. just a respected poster said it was a good read.
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    Post by Puro Fri Jun 06, 2008 4:14 pm

    Kimbo wrote:No $h!t. There's me thinking you write for the Sun.

    Laugh oh FFS! <Ale> Biggrin
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    Post by Allez les rouges Fri Jun 06, 2008 4:49 pm

    Oh feck off the lot of you.

    Thanks for posting that Frank; Chiles is a top broadcaster and highly likeable, even if his Flumps/Me comment shows that we shouldn't look to him for clued-up footballing insights. There should be more of him.

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    Post by 110% Fri Jun 06, 2008 4:53 pm

    The-Frank-Tavern wrote:
    Glenn Hysén wrote:
    Luis wrote:The fact that you read the s*n explains a lot about you Frank.

    I think he only bought it for the Big Brother pull-out Lulu
    it was posted on a ccfc board thats how i found it, never bought the paper, and never read it. just a respected poster said it was a good read.

    coventry city football club?
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    Post by Allez les rouges Fri Jun 06, 2008 5:14 pm

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    Post by Chocolate Thunder Fri Jun 06, 2008 5:48 pm

    Roger Hunt wrote:It's a shame, because Chiles is quite amusing and talks sense.

    He is dead to me now. Omerta.

    ok
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    Post by Axeslammer Fri Jun 06, 2008 6:00 pm

    Ade Alves wrote:
    Roger Hunt wrote:It's a shame, because Chiles is quite amusing and talks sense.

    He is dead to me now. Omerta.

    ok

    I don't get it, what has he done ?

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