Totti doesnt forgive Poulsen for being spit on

Totti To Poulsen: You Can Shove Your Handshake!
Francesco Totti has continued his four-year war with new Juventus signing Christian Poulsen, snubbing the Danish midfielder’s offer of a handshake and saying that he adds nothing to the Bianconeri team.

Poulsen

Poulsen completed his €9.75m move to Juventus from Sevilla on Tuesday, signing a four year contract at the Stadio Olimpico.

The 28-year-old is something of an infamous figure in Italy, all dating back to his clash with Francesco Totti in the group game between Italy and Denmark at Euro 2004. Following the match, which ended in a 0-0 draw, television pictures showed Poulsen being spat on by Totti, an act that was missed by the referee.
At a swiftly arranged disciplinary hearing, Totti was then handed a three-match ban, thus potentially ruling him out until the semi final. The No.10 then issued a "full public apology", while also claiming that he was severely provoked by Poulsen.

Since signing for Juventus, Poulsen has promised to forget what has happened and shake Totti’s hand when Juventus play Roma this season. The Giallorossi symbol though has made it perfectly clear how he feels about the situation.

"It's easy to talk now," he told the Gazzetta dello Sport.

"He could have come and told the truth at the hearing the day after. I don't think he adds anything [to Juve] at a technical level."

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So Totti is mad at Poulsen because Totti spat on him.

Super Madrid wrote:
So Totti is mad at Poulsen because Totti spat on him.

Exactly like Zidane is still mad at Materazzi because Zidane heatbutted Materazzi!

At least Materazzi was man enough to publically admit what he had said.

Totti is right though, he adds nothing to a Juve midfield which already has Zanetti and Sissoko. The only thing he adds is that he might provoke a few players to spit on him which would result in a ban/red card.

Still, if Totti had any decency he would accept this handshake. No matter what he said, spitting is disgusting abd obscene. Because he's Totti, does not excuse that fact. He is renowned to get wound up anyway, whatever Poulsen done, happens all the time...

In short, Totti's comments are quite laughable....

BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:Totti is right though, he adds nothing to a Juve midfield which already has Zanetti and Sissoko. The only thing he adds is that he might provoke a few players to spit on him which would result in a ban/red card.

Dont agree at all. I think Poulsen does what Zanetti/Sissoko do but better. he is better defensively then Zanetti and is a better passer then Sissoko. of course he will have to adapt to Italy. allthough you are right in the sense that he is the same type of players as those two.they should have gone for someone to distribute the ball from midfield. a Pirlo like type or someone who can at least provide some creative passes.

bluenine wrote:

Super Madrid wrote:
So Totti is mad at Poulsen because Totti spat on him.

Exactly like Zidane is still mad at Materazzi because Zidane heatbutted Materazzi!

At least Materazzi was man enough to publically admit what he had said.

Spitting is far far worse than a headbutt to the chest, the two situations are uncomparable.

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Kimbo wrote:

bluenine wrote:

Super Madrid wrote:
So Totti is mad at Poulsen because Totti spat on him.

Exactly like Zidane is still mad at Materazzi because Zidane heatbutted Materazzi!

At least Materazzi was man enough to publically admit what he had said.

Spitting is far far worse than a headbutt to the chest, the two situations are uncomparable.

a headbutt is far worse since it hurts.

Super Madrid wrote:

BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:Totti is right though, he adds nothing to a Juve midfield which already has Zanetti and Sissoko. The only thing he adds is that he might provoke a few players to spit on him which would result in a ban/red card.

Dont agree at all. I think Poulsen does what Zanetti/Sissoko do but better. he is better defensively then Zanetti and is a better passer then Sissoko. of course he will have to adapt to Italy. allthough you are right in the sense that he is the same type of players as those two.they should have gone for someone to distribute the ball from midfield. a Pirlo like type or someone who can at least provide some creative passes.

Zanetti is a good DM, though he can be a bit lazy with his marking and positioning. Juve should've strengthened elsewhere or as you say, bought a distributor like Alonso, or just spend the money on a top LB or AM.

Nah, as much as I love Francesco, spitting is pretty much the bottom of the barrel.

Same goes for when Cesc spat on Ballack.

Black Magic wrote:Nah, as much as I love Francesco, spitting is pretty much the bottom of the barrel.

Same goes for when Cesc spat on Ballack.

The images of Vieira spitting out at Ruddock are still really cringeworthy, its such a cowardly thing to do.

Spitting is definitely the worst.

Headbutting is stupid but spitting..its just cowardly and disgusting.

This is like asking what smells worse, $h!t or piss?

I would rather be kicked in the balls than spat on, it's the ultimate disrespect.

$h!t. Obviously.

i knew some simpleton would actually try and answer that question.

Didnt try to answer it. Just answered it

Spitting is worse than a headbutt.
$h!t is worse smelling than piss.

both are unacceptable on the football field, so there's no point trying to differentiate between them.

$h!t and piss both smell awful, and are just as bad as eachother.

They do both smell bad..though my piss isnt exactly "awful"..depends how long you leave it unflushed in all honesty. $h!t is definitely worse, smells awful straight away

I would rather be pissed on than $h!t on.

borocooper wrote:They do both smell bad..though my piss isnt exactly "awful"..depends how long you leave it unflushed in all honesty. $h!t is definitely worse, smells awful straight away

not my $h!t

Kimbo wrote:

bluenine wrote:

Super Madrid wrote:
So Totti is mad at Poulsen because Totti spat on him.

Exactly like Zidane is still mad at Materazzi because Zidane heatbutted Materazzi!

At least Materazzi was man enough to publically admit what he had said.

Spitting is far far worse than a headbutt to the chest, the two situations are uncomparable.

While that may be a matter of perspective, the comparable point is that both these actions are totally unacceptable on a football field.

bluenine wrote:

Kimbo wrote:

bluenine wrote:

Super Madrid wrote:
So Totti is mad at Poulsen because Totti spat on him.

Exactly like Zidane is still mad at Materazzi because Zidane heatbutted Materazzi!

At least Materazzi was man enough to publically admit what he had said.

Spitting is far far worse than a headbutt to the chest, the two situations are uncomparable.

While that may be a matter of perspective, the comparable point is that both these actions are totally unacceptable on a football field.

Hence we are all in agreement and announce that Totti's comments are stupid, arrogant and laughable.

And yes Spitting is more disgusting and cowardly....

Zack wrote:

bluenine wrote:

Kimbo wrote:

bluenine wrote:

Super Madrid wrote:
So Totti is mad at Poulsen because Totti spat on him.

Exactly like Zidane is still mad at Materazzi because Zidane heatbutted Materazzi!

At least Materazzi was man enough to publically admit what he had said.

Spitting is far far worse than a headbutt to the chest, the two situations are uncomparable.

While that may be a matter of perspective, the comparable point is that both these actions are totally unacceptable on a football field.

Hence we are all in agreement and announce that Totti's comments are stupid, arrogant and laughable.

And yes Spitting is more disgusting and cowardly....

Just like Zidane's comments previously....

bluenine wrote:

Zack wrote:

bluenine wrote:

Kimbo wrote:

bluenine wrote:

Super Madrid wrote:
So Totti is mad at Poulsen because Totti spat on him.

Exactly like Zidane is still mad at Materazzi because Zidane heatbutted Materazzi!

At least Materazzi was man enough to publically admit what he had said.

Spitting is far far worse than a headbutt to the chest, the two situations are uncomparable.

While that may be a matter of perspective, the comparable point is that both these actions are totally unacceptable on a football field.

Hence we are all in agreement and announce that Totti's comments are stupid, arrogant and laughable.

And yes Spitting is more disgusting and cowardly....

Just like Zidane's comments previously....

Thats were you and I will differ, because I think Spitting is Cowardly, whilst Head-butting was foolish. Both were wrong and both comments are in bad taste, however becasue he spat, which was more disgusting and Vile (and yes each to its own opinion, but you will find alot will agree with this) we will find Totti's comments less favourable and more laughable than Zidanes. Especially after Poulsen being a man enough and forgiving such behaviour buy offering his hand and rejecting it very arrogantly...

Zack wrote:

bluenine wrote:

Zack wrote:

bluenine wrote:

Kimbo wrote:

bluenine wrote:

Super Madrid wrote:
So Totti is mad at Poulsen because Totti spat on him.

Exactly like Zidane is still mad at Materazzi because Zidane heatbutted Materazzi!

At least Materazzi was man enough to publically admit what he had said.

Spitting is far far worse than a headbutt to the chest, the two situations are uncomparable.

While that may be a matter of perspective, the comparable point is that both these actions are totally unacceptable on a football field.

Hence we are all in agreement and announce that Totti's comments are stupid, arrogant and laughable.

And yes Spitting is more disgusting and cowardly....

Just like Zidane's comments previously....

Thats were you and I will differ, because I think Spitting is Cowardly, whilst Head-butting was foolish. Both were wrong and both comments are in bad taste, however becasue he spat, which was more disgusting and Vile (and yes each to its own opinion, but you will find alot will agree with this) we will find Totti's comments less favourable and more laughable than Zidanes. Especially after Poulsen being a man enough and forgiving such behaviour buy offering his hand and rejecting it very arrogantly...

I believe that people look at things from their own eyes, which usually makes them biased towards different cultures/personalities/views/etc, and also results in things like selective memory / personal biases / etc to dictate the way one thinks.

Zidane is a very likable personality, Totti is not. Nor is Materazzi, who is quite literally hated on this MB.

So when Materazzi publically admits what he did, and apologises for it for a reconciliation, it goes without notice. Materazzi offers a handshake many times, but no one remembers that. Zidane's character is never questioned for repeatedly refusing/ignoring this. Poulsen does it once after 4 years, and Totti is a bad guy for refusing it.

Poulsen is a "man enough" for offering a shake of hands after 4 years... after lying to the panel, and never publically admitting to what he said to Totti on that day, which resulted in only Totti being punished. And Totti is a coward for refusing it.

What about Materazzi? He publically admited to what he said, and got punished for it even tho he was the "victim". What does that make Zidane, who still refuses to shake Materazzi's hand? A super coward?

Like I said, its a matter of perspective. I don't see anyone creating a thread sayin that Zidane is a coward......

What makes this different for me is that what Zidane did was very much heat of the moment or at least i think so. i dont think Zidane would have done it throughout the game if he hadnt been caught. whereas Totti spat at Poulsen more then once. so Totti knew what he was doing and kept on going with it. with that said both things were wrong allthough i think Tottis spitting was worse.

Zidane/Materazzi is a non sequitur, brought out of context. But I agree with bluenine regarding the judgmentality, and prejudice to certain culture, and certain people. Italians are often looked upon as fraudulent, and vile.

And, we're speaking of offenses, and lack of fair play...What Totti did is unacceptable. Zidane's headbutt is an equal offense, but as supermadrid says, done at the heat of the moment. Regardless, I would disagree with people who say Zidane would do such things secretively, and get away scot-free. Nonsense, he has a bad temper and if provoked, he can't control his headbutts. Do not forget 98' incident as well. Now to 2006 WC final, contrary to what others say, Materazzi was made a victim after the headbutt. That's pure hypocrisy. Zidane had to apologize to millions through live television, but he frankly admitted he couldn't control after unacceptable provocations. Thus followed Materazzi's public apologies, etc. That being said, Materazzi is a disgrace of a man, who needs to be criticized for his series of slurs, and vile challenges. It's unacceptable behavior that we come to live with, from "few" Italian players. Totti's act of spitting is cowardly, and let's admit that as well. But it's not just Italians who are guilty of such behaviour, figo headbutting Bommel(and that whole match), Cristiano's winking in WC, Terry's spitting at Tevez, ferdinand kicking steward, rivaldo's play acting, henry's face clutching for challenge on his chest, neuville kicking the ball at fan, arsenal players rounding up on rvn, nistelroy's series of cheap shot challenges, Gallas' kicking the cardboard, Rooney's nonstop abuses at the refs, etc are various "acts" that is on par with the aforementioned. The game has its ugly face. It need not be an Italian at end of it.

I think that Poulsen did a good thing by offering a handshake. He wants to move on & offer peace between the 2 players. He was the one who was spat upon & we all know that provocation happens all the time in the game. And it's Totti's choice to refuse it or accept it. I think we should all appreciate Poulsen's attempt at peace.
Certain people think that Materrazi is more of a man in publicly admitting what he said. I don't understand how 'manly' it is in the first place to be calling out names to a fellow player's (even if he is an opponent) sister & mother & then considering his size, falling down like if he was shot by a cannon instead of being hit by a human head.

zizoued wrote:Zidane/Materazzi is a non sequitur, brought out of context. But I agree with bluenine regarding the judgmentality, and prejudice to certain culture, and certain people. Italians are often looked upon as fraudulent, and vile.

And, we're speaking of offenses, and lack of fair play...What Totti did is unacceptable. Zidane's headbutt is an equal offense, but as supermadrid says, done at the heat of the moment. Regardless, I would disagree with people who say Zidane would do such things secretively, and get away scot-free. Nonsense, he has a bad temper and if provoked, he can't control his headbutts. Do not forget 98' incident as well. Now to 2006 WC final, contrary to what others say, Materazzi was made a victim after the headbutt. That's pure hypocrisy. Zidane had to apologize to millions through live television, but he frankly admitted he couldn't control after unacceptable provocations. Thus followed Materazzi's public apologies, etc. That being said, Materazzi is a disgrace of a man, who needs to be criticized for his series of slurs, and vile challenges. It's unacceptable behavior that we come to live with, from "few" Italian players. Totti's act of spitting is cowardly, and let's admit that as well. But it's not just Italians who are guilty of such behaviour, figo headbutting Bommel(and that whole match), Cristiano's winking in WC, Terry's spitting at Tevez, ferdinand kicking steward, rivaldo's play acting, henry's face clutching for challenge on his chest, neuville kicking the ball at fan, arsenal players rounding up on rvn, nistelroy's series of cheap shot challenges, Gallas' kicking the cardboard, Rooney's nonstop abuses at the refs, etc are various "acts" that is on par with the aforementioned. The game has its ugly face. It need not be an Italian at end of it.

Good post

The fact remains that what Totti did was unacceptable, but so are the things that players like Zidane did. And what Materazzi did was in poor taste, just like Poulsen. It is hypocracy to paint Totti and materazzi as the villians in these two incidents.

No 2 incidents are exactly similar, but there are common points between these two... We must appreciate that while there is always a "victim" (Poulsen, Matrix, etc) in such incidents coz there is no justification for spitting/headbutting in football, there is also a case of provocation... Totti is a "villian" as much as Zidane, and Poulsen is a "victim" as much as Matrix. And if Zidane is not critisized for refusing Matrix's handshake, why should Totti be now?

Personally, I think Poulsen is only doing it as a publicity stunt now that he is playing in Serie A.