Totti doesnt forgive Poulsen for being spit on

Easy for matrix to appologise as he'd got zidane sent off and therefore not taking his penalty and subsequently won the world cup. Poulsen got Totti banned as well. So in both situations the guy who provoked the other into a reaction got what they wanted, got the other guy into trouble, and ended up winning in some way, then later turned round and appologised for something they shouldn't be fucking doing on a football pitch. Not so easy for the guys who reacted to provocation that shouldn't be there in the first place, even though they shouldn't have reacted as they did.

Anyway it looks like Poulsen is just trying to get the Italian fans to like him with these comments, so Totti has no need to say let's be friends.

110% wrote:Easy for matrix to appologise as he'd got zidane sent off and therefore not taking his penalty and subsequently won the world cup. Poulsen got Totti banned as well. So in both situations the guy who provoked the other into a reaction got what they wanted, got the other guy into trouble, and ended up winning in some way, then later turned round and appologised for something they shouldn't be fucking doing on a football pitch. Not so easy for the guys who reacted to provocation that shouldn't be there in the first place, even though they shouldn't have reacted as they did.

Anyway it looks like Poulsen is just trying to get the Italian fans to like him with these comments, so Totti has no need to say let's be friends.

I agree. Though what does piss me off is that while Materazzi got a ban and fine, Poulsen got away scot free by lying to the panel.

110% wrote:Easy for matrix to appologise as he'd got zidane sent off and therefore not taking his penalty and subsequently won the world cup. Poulsen got Totti banned as well. So in both situations the guy who provoked the other into a reaction got what they wanted, got the other guy into trouble, and ended up winning in some way, then later turned round and appologised for something they shouldn't be fucking doing on a football pitch. Not so easy for the guys who reacted to provocation that shouldn't be there in the first place, even though they shouldn't have reacted as they did.

Anyway it looks like Poulsen is just trying to get the Italian fans to like him with these comments, so Totti has no need to say let's be friends.

Even if Zidane took his penalty, we would've still won.

Poulsen only came out and apologised 4 years later, while Materazzi apologised straight away.

Provocation and trash talking happens all the time in football, ideally it should'nt be there, but it happens so much that there is very little you can do about it.

BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:

110% wrote:Easy for matrix to appologise as he'd got zidane sent off and therefore not taking his penalty and subsequently won the world cup. Poulsen got Totti banned as well. So in both situations the guy who provoked the other into a reaction got what they wanted, got the other guy into trouble, and ended up winning in some way, then later turned round and appologised for something they shouldn't be fucking doing on a football pitch. Not so easy for the guys who reacted to provocation that shouldn't be there in the first place, even though they shouldn't have reacted as they did.

Anyway it looks like Poulsen is just trying to get the Italian fans to like him with these comments, so Totti has no need to say let's be friends.

Even if Zidane took his penalty, we would've still won.

Poulsen only came out and apologised 4 years later, while Materazzi apologised straight away.

Provocation and trash talking happens all the time in football, ideally it should'nt be there, but it happens so much that there is very little you can do about it.

Well there's no way to know that, either way. But I think it's fair to say the psychological 'conditions' would've been different going into the shoot-out, had that incident not occurred. And we all know psychology is key when it comes to shootouts.

It wasn't so much that Zidane was a good penalty-taker who was likely to score, but that seeing him walk off the pitch could well have affected French player's mentality about whether they would win.

Not that there's any defence to Zidane...fully deserved to be sent off. Best thing to do when provoked like that is laugh at them - why would I care about defending my sister's honour (or whatever) against the comments of a moron?

BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:

110% wrote:Easy for matrix to appologise as he'd got zidane sent off and therefore not taking his penalty and subsequently won the world cup. Poulsen got Totti banned as well. So in both situations the guy who provoked the other into a reaction got what they wanted, got the other guy into trouble, and ended up winning in some way, then later turned round and appologised for something they shouldn't be fucking doing on a football pitch. Not so easy for the guys who reacted to provocation that shouldn't be there in the first place, even though they shouldn't have reacted as they did.

Anyway it looks like Poulsen is just trying to get the Italian fans to like him with these comments, so Totti has no need to say let's be friends.

Even if Zidane took his penalty, we would've still won.

Poulsen only came out and apologised 4 years later, while Materazzi apologised straight away.

Provocation and trash talking happens all the time in football, ideally it should'nt be there, but it happens so much that there is very little you can do about it.

well we don't know what would have happend had zidane been there to take the 5th spot kick, except that he'd have scored

doing something like matrix does constantly then appologising for it doesn't count for $h!t. The same with Poulsen's apology. They shouldn't be fucking doing it in the first place, but you can bet in the next game matrix is playing he'll be up to the same old tricks again, so there is no value in the appology.

as someone pointed out earlier, zidane didn't appologise. I respect him more for that. He's not sorry for head-butting matrix, so he shouldn't appologise for that. He should only have to appologise to his team-mates for letting them down and I'm sure he did that.

anyway you may be right that there isn't a lot we can do about it, so when they get a chance like the matrix one where he admits he insulted zidane's sister, then he deservedly gets a ban.

What did Poulsen actually do btw?

110% wrote:

BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:

110% wrote:Easy for matrix to appologise as he'd got zidane sent off and therefore not taking his penalty and subsequently won the world cup. Poulsen got Totti banned as well. So in both situations the guy who provoked the other into a reaction got what they wanted, got the other guy into trouble, and ended up winning in some way, then later turned round and appologised for something they shouldn't be fucking doing on a football pitch. Not so easy for the guys who reacted to provocation that shouldn't be there in the first place, even though they shouldn't have reacted as they did.

Anyway it looks like Poulsen is just trying to get the Italian fans to like him with these comments, so Totti has no need to say let's be friends.

Even if Zidane took his penalty, we would've still won.

Poulsen only came out and apologised 4 years later, while Materazzi apologised straight away.

Provocation and trash talking happens all the time in football, ideally it should'nt be there, but it happens so much that there is very little you can do about it.

well we don't know what would have happend had zidane been there to take the 5th spot kick, except that he'd have scored

doing something like matrix does constantly then appologising for it doesn't count for $h!t. The same with Poulsen's apology. They shouldn't be fucking doing it in the first place, but you can bet in the next game matrix is playing he'll be up to the same old tricks again, so there is no value in the appology.

as someone pointed out earlier, zidane didn't appologise. I respect him more for that. He's not sorry for head-butting matrix, so he shouldn't appologise for that. He should only have to appologise to his team-mates for letting them down and I'm sure he did that.

anyway you may be right that there isn't a lot we can do about it, so when they get a chance like the matrix one where he admits he insulted zidane's sister, then he deservedly gets a ban.

Zidane would've most likely taken the 1st or 5th spot kick and probably scored. Trezeguet would've still taken one and missed though.

I agree with the other stuff you've said. Giving Materazzi a ban was right, but only if they continue to apply the same rules to everyone else.

read his discipline bit:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Poulsen
he's just a c**t who plays football

for some this might be a plus but he stamped on jermain jenas's head

borocooper wrote:What did Poulsen actually do btw?

Stole some precious Totti-spittle. Usually it gets bottled and sold as high-valued consumer commodity 'Sunny D'

I must say i was wrong after reading this thread( that i ironically created). when the Totti spitting happened in 2004 all the our media did was paint Totti as the villain and i cant remember them actually talking once about Poulsens role it. the impression that everybody got was simply that Totti just did it because Poulsen was soo good. i should have figured it out by using the same logic when trying to understand why Zidane would suddenly headbut Materazzi.
Come to think of it our media kind of did the same one sided reporting when with the whole Poulsen-Kaka thing happened.

what we need to find out though is how normal/unormal it is to thrash talk during games in the manner in which Materazzi did. or whether Poulsen kicking players when the ref doesnt see is unormal.

Super Madrid wrote:I must say i was wrong after reading this thread( that i ironically created). when the Totti spitting happened in 2004 all the our media did was paint Totti as the villain and i cant remember them actually talking once about Poulsens role it. the impression that everybody got was simply that Totti just did it because Poulsen was soo good. i should have figured it out by using the same logic when trying to understand why Zidane would suddenly headbut Materazzi.
Come to think of it our media kind of did the same one sided reporting when with the whole Poulsen-Kaka thing happened.

what we need to find out though is how normal/unormal it is to thrash talk during games in the manner in which Materazzi did. or whether Poulsen kicking players when the ref doesnt see is unormal.

Good post!

Inter vs Juve is always a bitter game. So is Roma vs Juve.... The interesting thing now is - the addition of Poulsen will make it more bitter for Roma, and the Milan-Juve game will take a turn for the worse as well. Some interesting personality clashes coming up, Serie A is always best when served hot!

Super Madrid wrote:I must say i was wrong after reading this thread( that i ironically created). when the Totti spitting happened in 2004 all the our media did was paint Totti as the villain and i cant remember them actually talking once about Poulsens role it. the impression that everybody got was simply that Totti just did it because Poulsen was soo good. i should have figured it out by using the same logic when trying to understand why Zidane would suddenly headbut Materazzi.
Come to think of it our media kind of did the same one sided reporting when with the whole Poulsen-Kaka thing happened.

what we need to find out though is how normal/unormal it is to thrash talk during games in the manner in which Materazzi did. or whether Poulsen kicking players when the ref doesnt see is unormal.

Trash talking and dirty play are not an excuse for spitting though. If you wanna retaliate fine, return the dirty tackle or leave a trailinbg leg longer than neccesary.

robert wrote:

Super Madrid wrote:I must say i was wrong after reading this thread( that i ironically created). when the Totti spitting happened in 2004 all the our media did was paint Totti as the villain and i cant remember them actually talking once about Poulsens role it. the impression that everybody got was simply that Totti just did it because Poulsen was soo good. i should have figured it out by using the same logic when trying to understand why Zidane would suddenly headbut Materazzi.
Come to think of it our media kind of did the same one sided reporting when with the whole Poulsen-Kaka thing happened.

what we need to find out though is how normal/unormal it is to thrash talk during games in the manner in which Materazzi did. or whether Poulsen kicking players when the ref doesnt see is unormal.

Trash talking and dirty play are not an excuse for spitting though. If you wanna retaliate fine, return the dirty tackle or leave a trailinbg leg longer than neccesary.

Not really, a dirty tackle would probably result in either a yellow or red card and would just show the opposition that you're being wound up, which is what their original intention was. You'd be better off igonring it and helping your team to win.

BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:

robert wrote:

Super Madrid wrote:I must say i was wrong after reading this thread( that i ironically created). when the Totti spitting happened in 2004 all the our media did was paint Totti as the villain and i cant remember them actually talking once about Poulsens role it. the impression that everybody got was simply that Totti just did it because Poulsen was soo good. i should have figured it out by using the same logic when trying to understand why Zidane would suddenly headbut Materazzi.
Come to think of it our media kind of did the same one sided reporting when with the whole Poulsen-Kaka thing happened.

what we need to find out though is how normal/unormal it is to thrash talk during games in the manner in which Materazzi did. or whether Poulsen kicking players when the ref doesnt see is unormal.

Trash talking and dirty play are not an excuse for spitting though. If you wanna retaliate fine, return the dirty tackle or leave a trailinbg leg longer than neccesary.

Not really, a dirty tackle would probably result in either a yellow or red card and would just show the opposition that you're being wound up, which is what their original intention was. You'd be better off igonring it and helping your team to win.

Yeah obviously ignoring is the best solution but i was just talking in practical terms because its all well and good for me to sit here and talk about players ignoring such but easier said than done. Specifically Totti's case, a player like him due to his talents has to put up with dirty tackles and underhanded tricks every game, at some point it has to come out, unfortunately spitting, the lowest form of disrespect, seems to be that way.

robert wrote:

Super Madrid wrote:I must say i was wrong after reading this thread( that i ironically created). when the Totti spitting happened in 2004 all the our media did was paint Totti as the villain and i cant remember them actually talking once about Poulsens role it. the impression that everybody got was simply that Totti just did it because Poulsen was soo good. i should have figured it out by using the same logic when trying to understand why Zidane would suddenly headbut Materazzi.
Come to think of it our media kind of did the same one sided reporting when with the whole Poulsen-Kaka thing happened.

what we need to find out though is how normal/unormal it is to thrash talk during games in the manner in which Materazzi did. or whether Poulsen kicking players when the ref doesnt see is unormal.

Trash talking and dirty play are not an excuse for spitting though. If you wanna retaliate fine, return the dirty tackle or leave a trailinbg leg longer than neccesary.

The thing is that we dont know whether calling someone sister a hore is normal thrash talk and that Zidane therefore reacted more then others normally do. it could be the case that Materazzi stepped way out of line with what is normally said.
just like Poulsen kicking Kaka when the ref doesnt look we dont quite know.
i remember a football debate show where they talked about Poulsen and most thought that he had done no wrong to Kaka. One of panelist however mentioned that Poulsen is very dirty but it doesnt show in cameras because he is excellent at hiding it. but he often kicks in the heels when nobody is looking.

Yeah everyone knows Poulsen is a dirty mofo. Still does not excuse spitting as I said if you can't handle trash talk fine, be dirty, but don't resort to spitting.

Wednesday 30 July, 2008
Blog: Spitting Games
As Francesco Totti refuses to befriend Christian Poulsen, Steve Wilson wonders if a man banned for spitting can ever hold the moral high-ground



“It's too late to apologise,” wails Francesco Totti with regard to Juventus' new Danish midfielder Christian Poulsen. The Roma skipper's recent comments attempt to paint him as the wronged party - but let us not forget his disgusting spray of saliva arguably cost Italy their chances at Euro 2004. Surely it is time for Er Pupone to man up and take responsibility for his part in the incident?

Cast your memory back, or head to YouTube if your mind is not as accurate as it once was, and you will see what went down on June 14, 2004. As Totti jogged back up the pitch Poulsen childishly blocked him off with an unsubtle shoulder barge, how the Italy No 10 reacted though was beyond reproach. Glaring directly at the Dane he unleashed his phlegm right in his foe's face.

Now that Poulsen has signed for Juventus we are all counting down the days until November 2 when the Giallorossi head to Turin. Their reunion will certainly add an extra element of spice to that game and who would bet against one or two colourful challenges flying in. But wouldn't the more mature Totti strengthen his reputation by making peace with his nemesis?

The Scandinavian has been trying to win friends and influence people following his less than welcome arrival on the peninsula, even offering to shake the Roman icon's hand. However, his olive branch was angrily snapped in two by Totti who snarled: “It is easy to talk now, he could have come and told the truth at the hearing the day after.”

But what was there to tell? That he was antagonising Totti during the game? Surely a tactic used by every tenacious, rugged midfielder trying to shackle a fantasista. That he wasn't spat at by Totti? The video evidence spoke a thousand words. The Italian ace was horribly out of line on that sunny afternoon in Braga, it's time he accepted that fact and stopped spitting out his dummy.