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    How will the the arabs affect Man City?

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    Post by Tweesus Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:41 pm

    So, can they break into the top four this season?

    Will they sign C. Ronaldo and Kaka in the January transfer window?

    Goater posted yesterday that the Arab consortium are worth approximately £28,000,000,000 so I really don't think spending will by too much of an object for them.

    Citeh's squad certainly has the quality to make a challenge although there are question marks over some positions still and there's also the issue as to whether the team can gel.

    Robinho is an impressive capture but there are question marks over his adaptability to the English game. I expect him to have a decent enough season but not one you would expect of a player that cost £30m.

    Next summer, who knows. Will he want to move to Chelsea then?

    And if money isn't an object, who should Man City be trying to sign?
    Personally I think they could do with a top class keeper (Buffon) an attacking midfielder (Kaka) and a top class left back (Evra) king
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    Post by DS Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:45 pm

    And a playmaker Cesc with a attacker Adebayor (he already wants to leave).
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:45 pm

    this isn't an abramovich play thing they are business men first and foremost, they'll only spend what they believe they can recuperate from improved financial performance. anybody expecting chelsea like money down a big black hole imho is mistaken.
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    Post by SuperMario Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:48 pm

    Not too sure they're looking for a profit / approach City business wise. Think they just want a new toy.
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    Post by Tweesus Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:48 pm

    The-Frank-Tavern wrote:this isn't an abramovich play thing they are business men first and foremost, they'll only spend what they believe they can recuperate from improved financial performance. anybody expecting chelsea like money down a big black hole imho is mistaken.

    lol!

    What are you talking about Frank? Is that from your secret source or something? They've just broken the EPL transfer record!

    They're Roman Mark II. Why else do you think the specifically targetted the two players that Utd and Chelsea were after?
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    Post by debaser Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:51 pm

    It'll be interesting to see what sort of chance they give Hughes...e.g. if they don't finish top 4 this season. Expectations now will be sky-high and there'll be a lot of pressure, particularly if, as we assume, they continue spending huge in January (when they've got a bit more time to pick and choose).

    Hard to know what difference Robinho will make, it all depends how he adapts. They still maybe lack a goalscorer - depending on whether Jo delivers - and the defence is perhaps weak at full-back, and in terms of cover. still, confidence and everything should be very high now, if they can follow this with a couple of wins..

    Hart>Buffon Rolling Eyes
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    Post by Tweesus Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:53 pm

    debaser wrote:
    Hart>Buffon Rolling Eyes

    Hart is a decent player but I don't think he's top four material (same with Almunia)

    He'll do for this season but I think they'll see a better keeper as a priority next summer, if money isn't an object.

    Agree that the defence will probably need a bit of an overhaul too.
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:54 pm

    u honestly believe they had a lot of say in robinho i doubt that v much, too quick imho don't forget they are only prosepctive owners at the moment, they do NOT currently own the club. as for the 2 players it does end a message but if you believe this is their play thing like roman's i seriously believe u are wrong, this is a business 1st and foremost. despite the relative success of chelsea under abra they still are seriously in the red regarding transfer activity, i'd be v surprised if over the longer term not some 1 day wonder when u need to get fans on board (IF they did have much to do with it) that spedning continues at unabated pace. they may have the sort of mone roman does but that doesn't mean it'll be thrown around like cnfetti a la chelsea over the longer term.
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    Post by debaser Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:57 pm

    Tweedle wrote:
    debaser wrote:
    Hart>Buffon Rolling Eyes

    Hart is a decent player but I don't think he's top four material (same with Almunia)

    He'll do for this season but I think they'll see a better keeper as a priority next summer, if money isn't an object.

    Agree that the defence will probably need a bit of an overhaul too.
    yeah, sadly so. Still finding it quite awesome that Hart's gone from playing in the conference for Shrews to playing alongside people like Robinho. Hope he doesn't get pushed to far to the wayside if they do sign a keeper.
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    Post by Jaime Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:58 pm

    Tweedle wrote:Hart is a decent player but I don't think he's top four five material (same with Almunia)

    Biggrin
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    Post by debaser Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:01 pm

    The-Frank-Tavern wrote:this isn't an abramovich play thing they are business men first and foremost, they'll only spend what they believe they can recuperate from improved financial performance. anybody expecting chelsea like money down a big black hole imho is mistaken.
    hmm. Looks like a prestige thing more than anything so far. They clearly wanted to make a big impression from the off, both to win over fans and 'announce' themselves to the footballing world. The way they went about bidding for multiple players (reportedly six) at ridiculous sums, suggests they are far more like Abramovich than just investors like the Glazers.
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    Post by Hlebagone Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:06 pm

    The-Frank-Tavern wrote:u honestly believe they had a lot of say in robinho i doubt that v much, too quick imho don't forget they are only prosepctive owners at the moment, they do NOT currently own the club. as for the 2 players it does end a message but if you believe this is their play thing like roman's i seriously believe u are wrong, this is a business 1st and foremost. despite the relative success of chelsea under abra they still are seriously in the red regarding transfer activity, i'd be v surprised if over the longer term not some 1 day wonder when u need to get fans on board (IF they did have much to do with it) that spedning continues at unabated pace. they may have the sort of mone roman does but that doesn't mean it'll be thrown around like cnfetti a la chelsea over the longer term.
    \

    Of course they had a lot of say in the Robinho signing. As at the end of the day, there's still the fairly sizeable issue of actually paying for the transfer, something which i do not believe CIty would have been unable to do otherwise. Rolling Eyes


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    Post by Super Progress Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:10 pm

    debaser wrote:
    The-Frank-Tavern wrote:this isn't an abramovich play thing they are business men first and foremost, they'll only spend what they believe they can recuperate from improved financial performance. anybody expecting chelsea like money down a big black hole imho is mistaken.
    hmm. Looks like a prestige thing more than anything so far. They clearly wanted to make a big impression from the off, both to win over fans and 'announce' themselves to the footballing world. The way they went about bidding for multiple players (reportedly six) at ridiculous sums, suggests they are far more like Abramovich than just investors like the Glazers.
    You guys should check the liverpool thread i think where Torres(poster) posted something from another forum that suggested that these arabs have been competing with some other arabs from UAE and this seems much more likely to be a group that will spend serious dough.

    hopefully this wont encourage Arsenal to go the same way because they might be the only club in a possible top 5 that isnt owned by foreigners(how ironic).still dont quite understand who is it that owns Man City is it these arabs or Thaksin.
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    Post by debaser Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:13 pm

    Super Madrid wrote:still dont quite understand who is it that owns Man City is it these arabs or Thaksin.
    the Arabs, I assume, although it's clearly all been rushed through so they could flash their money before the transfer window shut. The FA were probably just glad they didn't have to make a decision on Thaksin's 'fit and proper person' thing, so let it go through fast.
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    Post by Tweesus Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:14 pm

    Super Madrid wrote:
    hopefully this wont encourage Arsenal to go the same way because they might be the only club in a possible top 5 that isnt owned by foreigners(how ironic).still dont quite understand who is it that owns Man City is it these arabs or Thaksin.

    I think we're fucked to be honest. We don't have a defensive midfielder at the moment.

    When Rosicky returns I'd be tempted to drop him in there!
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    Post by Super Progress Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:19 pm

    debaser wrote:
    Super Madrid wrote:still dont quite understand who is it that owns Man City is it these arabs or Thaksin.
    the Arabs, I assume, although it's clearly all been rushed through so they could flash their money before the transfer window shut. The FA were probably just glad they didn't have to make a decision on Thaksin's 'fit and proper person' thing, so let it go through fast.
    Cant say that is that good that City have just been shipped on to the next guy(guys) but atleast they dont havent committed the same crimes that Thaksin did(at least to my knowledge).

    regarding Arsenal its all Wengers foult simple as that. he had money and could have gone for someone like Frings or even Inler but he decided to do nothing.if some of the players dont step up big time he should be kicked to the curve at the end of the season for this.no way can Arsenal afford to have another "transitional season" when City are making moves.
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    Post by lrdsucksgoats Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:44 pm

    Hard to say - just because they're worth a lot of money doesn't mean they'll plough it into the club. Though numerous Ayrab consortiums have been trying to buy into the PL in the last few years. Indeed, an English football club is the thing to own if you're a multi billionaire.

    My hunch is that it is primarily a PR thing, because the main man in this group who've bought a majority share of the club made his fortune in property. So he's a holiday resort magnate. Expect the stadium to be renamed after an airline and at least one token Arab player to be brought in, preferably one with the same name as the airline, or possibly one of the resorts.

    Man City will not be winning the European Cup. Probably.
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    Post by Nightwing Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:45 pm

    The-Frank-Tavern wrote:this isn't an abramovich play thing they are business men first and foremost, they'll only spend what they believe they can recuperate from improved financial performance. anybody expecting chelsea like money down a big black hole imho is mistaken.

    Stop trying to ruin other people dreams!! Mad



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    Post by Sgoater1 Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:45 pm

    As a family they are acutaly worth £555 billion ! The guy who is in charge is worth 28 billion on his own. He has said we have unlimited funds and money is no object. If we want Ronaldo then we can bid $240m if we want (a price he believes would land the twat) money is no problem cos we are going to be the richest club in the world.

    f@ck me its crazy but still i dont want that twat Ronaldo at my club !
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    Post by Cookie Monster Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:47 pm

    The-Frank-Tavern wrote:this isn't an abramovich play thing they are business men first and foremost, they'll only spend what they believe they can recuperate from improved financial performance. anybody expecting chelsea like money down a big black hole imho is mistaken.
    Apart from teh fact they ahve said they will spend what ever it takes.
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    Post by Sgoater1 Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:47 pm

    The-Frank-Tavern wrote:this isn't an abramovich play thing they are business men first and foremost, they'll only spend what they believe they can recuperate from improved financial performance. anybody expecting chelsea like money down a big black hole imho is mistaken.


    Frank the guy has already said he isnt in this to make money, he expects to lose millions but doesnt care, money is not an issue, making city the best team in the world is his only concern.
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    Post by lrdsucksgoats Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:54 pm

    Sgoater1 wrote:As a family they are acutaly worth £555 billion ! The guy who is in charge is worth 28 billion on his own. He has said we have unlimited funds and money is no object. If we want Ronaldo then we can bid $240m if we want (a price he believes would land the twat) money is no problem cos we are going to be the richest club in the world.

    f@ck me its crazy but still i dont want that twat Ronaldo at my club !


    So they're worth almost as much as Chase Manhattan?


    Alright, maybe Man City are going to win the European Cup.
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    Post by Tweesus Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:54 pm

    Frank knows things that us mere mortals (and the press and the arabs themselves) don't know though goater.

    He has sauces. Lots of sauces.
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    Post by lrdsucksgoats Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:55 pm

    Tweedle wrote:Frank knows things that us mere mortals (and the press and the arabs themselves) don't know though goater.

    He has sauces. Lots of sauces.


    Does hummus class as a source? Or is it a dip?
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    Post by Yef Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:57 pm

    For people like Goater this is really amazing, and in some way I rather have these kind of teams at the top..yeah its bought succes..but so are Utd, Madrid, Barca, Inter etc. So it is actually fun to see these teams getting dicked..its like the bullied kid is taking revenge Biggrin

    Yeah it will attract lots of new fans..but for the hardcore fans they actually deserved this, I mean they went to their club while playing the 3th tier.
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    Post by Tweesus Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:58 pm

    Bring back the sigs! wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:Frank knows things that us mere mortals (and the press and the arabs themselves) don't know though goater.

    He has sauces. Lots of sauces.


    Does hummus class as a source? Or is it a dip?

    Dip.

    they don't call in hummus sauce now do they.... its hummus dip.
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    Post by lrdsucksgoats Tue Sep 02, 2008 2:05 pm

    Tweedle wrote:
    Bring back the sigs! wrote:
    Does hummus class as a source? Or is it a dip?

    Dip.

    they don't call in hummus sauce now do they.... its hummus dip.


    I have no idea what 'they' call it now. I'm not part of the whole 'scene'...
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    Post by Cookie Monster Tue Sep 02, 2008 2:06 pm

    Yef wrote:For people like Goater this is really amazing, and in some way I rather have these kind of teams at the top..yeah its bought succes..but so are Utd, Madrid, Barca, Inter etc. So it is actually fun to see these teams getting dicked..its like the bullied kid is taking revenge Biggrin

    Yeah it will attract lots of new fans..but for the hardcore fans they actually deserved this, I mean they went to their club while playing the 3th tier.
    still had 36,000+ crowds in div 3. Man utd wouldnt get that if they dropped out the top 4.
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    Post by Axeslammer Tue Sep 02, 2008 2:23 pm

    Cookie Monster wrote:still had 36,000+ crowds in div 3. Man utd wouldnt get that if they dropped out the top 4.

    Well......we'll see next year if you're right or not Laugh
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Tue Sep 02, 2008 2:46 pm

    debaser wrote:
    Super Madrid wrote:still dont quite understand who is it that owns Man City is it these arabs or Thaksin.
    the Arabs, I assume, although it's clearly all been rushed through so they could flash their money before the transfer window shut. The FA were probably just glad they didn't have to make a decision on Thaksin's 'fit and proper person' thing, so let it go through fast.

    still shinawatra until the sale goes through, at the moment there is only a "memorandum of understanding" between the parties. shinawatra would retain a stake even after the sale.

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