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The Road to the FIFA World Cup - South Africa 2010
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Re: The Road to the FIFA World Cup - South Africa 2010
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by Hem fet un mal partit Wed Oct 15, 2008 9:36 pm
Ramos turn to save goal
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Re: The Road to the FIFA World Cup - South Africa 2010
by Bashmachkin Wed Oct 15, 2008 9:38 pm
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Good sub by del bos, Guiza on and for iniesta and he steps up the goal.
Villa is now tied with Di Stefano as the all time leading goal scorer for spain.
Villa is now tied with Di Stefano as the all time leading goal scorer for spain.
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Re: The Road to the FIFA World Cup - South Africa 2010
by Pierre Littbarski Wed Oct 15, 2008 9:43 pm
The 1st time Capello's England has really impressed - Rooney was quality.
SAF and ronaldo are to blame for his poor form.
They should have sold ronaldo to Madrid, replaced him with teh far more creative and team-orientated Ashley Young and then they would have got the best out of Rooney who is more talented and intelligent than ronaldo.
Would have made a healthy profit too - they may be needing that soon
As good as is this was there is trouble ahead.
Lampard played well in Zagreb without Steven Iwelumo but that was against ten men.
Lampard was ok on Sat (thought not worth the 8/10 that the ridiculously pro-Lampard Times gave him) and Gerrard was poor.
Tonight Gerrard was very effective but Lampard was anonymous.
With these 2 we were overrun by Belarus in teh 1st half and if we persist with both v better opposition we will be made to pay.
SAF and ronaldo are to blame for his poor form.
They should have sold ronaldo to Madrid, replaced him with teh far more creative and team-orientated Ashley Young and then they would have got the best out of Rooney who is more talented and intelligent than ronaldo.
Would have made a healthy profit too - they may be needing that soon
As good as is this was there is trouble ahead.
Lampard played well in Zagreb without Steven Iwelumo but that was against ten men.
Lampard was ok on Sat (thought not worth the 8/10 that the ridiculously pro-Lampard Times gave him) and Gerrard was poor.
Tonight Gerrard was very effective but Lampard was anonymous.
With these 2 we were overrun by Belarus in teh 1st half and if we persist with both v better opposition we will be made to pay.
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Re: The Road to the FIFA World Cup - South Africa 2010
by Parks lives Wed Oct 15, 2008 9:45 pm
Playing Rooney off a proper number 9 striker, which is what Owen or Crouch aren't, is how to get the best out of Rooney.
Berbatov for Man United.
Heskey for England.
Berbatov for Man United.
Heskey for England.
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Re: The Road to the FIFA World Cup - South Africa 2010
by Fade out Wed Oct 15, 2008 9:51 pm
Crouch is a number 9 striker. Owen is not.
The highlight of the day is Arshavin's goal, which was top class (or poor defending from finland blah).
The highlight of the day is Arshavin's goal, which was top class (or poor defending from finland blah).
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Pierre Littbarski wrote:The 1st time Capello's England has really impressed - Rooney was quality.
SAF and ronaldo are to blame for his poor form.
They should have sold ronaldo to Madrid, replaced him with teh far more creative and team-orientated Ashley Young and then they would have got the best out of Rooney who is more talented and intelligent than ronaldo.
Would have made a healthy profit too - they may be needing that soon
As good as is this was there is trouble ahead.
Lampard played well in Zagreb without Steven Iwelumo but that was against ten men.
Lampard was ok on Sat (thought not worth the 8/10 that the ridiculously pro-Lampard Times gave him) and Gerrard was poor.
Tonight Gerrard was very effective but Lampard was anonymous.
With these 2 we were overrun by Belarus in teh 1st half and if we persist with both v better opposition we will be made to pay.
Well that is some great and original expert analysis there Pierre
'If England persist with Gerrard and Lampard they will be made to pay'
Bravo
I say throw Ashley Young or Carrick in and suddenly the argentina's of this world will be getting thrashed regularly
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Re: The Road to the FIFA World Cup - South Africa 2010
by Tweesus Wed Oct 15, 2008 9:53 pm
COTR wrote:Pierre Littbarski wrote:The 1st time Capello's England has really impressed - Rooney was quality.
SAF and ronaldo are to blame for his poor form.
They should have sold ronaldo to Madrid, replaced him with teh far more creative and team-orientated Ashley Young and then they would have got the best out of Rooney who is more talented and intelligent than ronaldo.
Would have made a healthy profit too - they may be needing that soon
As good as is this was there is trouble ahead.
Lampard played well in Zagreb without Steven Iwelumo but that was against ten men.
Lampard was ok on Sat (thought not worth the 8/10 that the ridiculously pro-Lampard Times gave him) and Gerrard was poor.
Tonight Gerrard was very effective but Lampard was anonymous.
With these 2 we were overrun by Belarus in teh 1st half and if we persist with both v better opposition we will be made to pay.
Well that is some great and original expert analysis there Pierre
'If England persist with Gerrard and Lampard they will be made to pay'
Bravo
I say throw Ashley Young and Carrick in and suddenly the argentina's of this world will be getting thrashed regularly
There's still room for Gerrard at right back
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Re: The Road to the FIFA World Cup - South Africa 2010
by Parks lives Wed Oct 15, 2008 9:58 pm
zizoued wrote:Crouch is a number 9 striker. Owen is not.
The highlight of the day is Arshavin's goal, which was top class (or poor defending from finland blah).
Not a very good one though, mainly as he's not that great in the air.
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Re: The Road to the FIFA World Cup - South Africa 2010
by Super Progress Wed Oct 15, 2008 9:58 pm
Interesting game between Portugal and Albania. Albania has had a man sent off and Portugal has to force it now for an entire half. they are sitting totally on Albania.
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Re: The Road to the FIFA World Cup - South Africa 2010
by Fade out Wed Oct 15, 2008 9:59 pm
Some muppet in 606 claims A.Young is better than Ribery. Yeah, right. though it should be said A.Young is a decent player, I rate him. As one would put it, "team oriented" and quite effective winger. I'd play him, Joe Cole, or SWP over Theo walcott, who simply put is not ready to start. Perhaps one day he will be consistent enough to satisfy the fans. You know like scoring hattricks or doing a maradona run in CL quarters, and stuff. I think the hype has got into his head. Nothing new.
It seems to me if England fails, it's going to be either Lampard or Gerrard's mistake.
It seems to me if England fails, it's going to be either Lampard or Gerrard's mistake.
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Re: The Road to the FIFA World Cup - South Africa 2010
by Pierre Littbarski Wed Oct 15, 2008 10:01 pm
zizoued wrote:Some muppet in 606 claims A.Young is better than Ribery. Yeah, right. though it should be said A.Young is a decent player, I rate him. As one would put it, "team oriented" and quite effective winger. I'd play him, Joe Cole, or SWP over Theo walcott, who simply put is not ready to start. Perhaps one day he will be consistent enough to satisfy the fans. You know like scoring hattricks or doing a maradona run in CL quarters, and stuff. I think the hype has got into his head. Nothing new.
It seems to me if England fails, it's going to be either Lampard or Gerrard's mistake.
I'm a Ribery fan but that's hardly teh most ridiculous claim I've heard.
Young gets serious end product in one of the big 3 leagues - Ribery chose to play in a joke league.
Neither has done anything at the very highest level.
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Re: The Road to the FIFA World Cup - South Africa 2010
by Tweesus Wed Oct 15, 2008 10:02 pm
zizoued wrote:Some muppet in 606 claims A.Young is better than Ribery. Yeah, right. though it should be said A.Young is a decent player, I rate him. As one would put it, "team oriented" and quite effective winger. I'd play him, Joe Cole, or SWP over Theo walcott, who simply put is not ready to start. Perhaps one day he will be consistent enough to satisfy the fans. You know like scoring hattricks or doing a maradona run in CL quarters, and stuff. I think the hype has got into his head. Nothing new.
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Re: The Road to the FIFA World Cup - South Africa 2010
by Forza Italia!Forza Milan! Wed Oct 15, 2008 10:02 pm
zizoued wrote:Some muppet in 606 claims
You still visit the darkside? You do realize that this board is the breakaway superleague of messageboards?
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Re: The Road to the FIFA World Cup - South Africa 2010
by Fade out Wed Oct 15, 2008 10:02 pm
Parks lives wrote:zizoued wrote:Crouch is a number 9 striker. Owen is not.
The highlight of the day is Arshavin's goal, which was top class (or poor defending from finland blah).
Not a very good one though, mainly as he's not that great in the air.
I'm quite sure really. I have seen him score hattrick of very high quality against Arsenal. One very good header too.
And I'm sure you would remember. Before Torres came, Liverpool fans were singing praises of Crouch.
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Re: The Road to the FIFA World Cup - South Africa 2010
by Fade out Wed Oct 15, 2008 10:03 pm
Tweedle wrote:zizoued wrote:Some muppet in 606 claims A.Young is better than Ribery. Yeah, right. though it should be said A.Young is a decent player, I rate him. As one would put it, "team oriented" and quite effective winger. I'd play him, Joe Cole, or SWP over Theo walcott, who simply put is not ready to start. Perhaps one day he will be consistent enough to satisfy the fans. You know like scoring hattricks or doing a maradona run in CL quarters, and stuff. I think the hype has got into his head. Nothing new.
Croatia...
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Re: The Road to the FIFA World Cup - South Africa 2010
by Fade out Wed Oct 15, 2008 10:04 pm
Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:zizoued wrote:Some muppet in 606 claims
You still visit the darkside? You do realize that this board is the breakaway superleague of messageboards?
Yeah, I heard.
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Re: The Road to the FIFA World Cup - South Africa 2010
by Deluded F*ck™ Wed Oct 15, 2008 10:07 pm
zizoued wrote:Parks lives wrote:zizoued wrote:Crouch is a number 9 striker. Owen is not.
The highlight of the day is Arshavin's goal, which was top class (or poor defending from finland blah).
Not a very good one though, mainly as he's not that great in the air.
I'm quite sure really. I have seen him score hattrick of very high quality against Arsenal. One very good header too.
And I'm sure you would remember. Before Torres came, Liverpool fans were singing praises of Crouch.
Ah yes, the "Crouch & Kuyt >>> Berbatov" days - who could forget that ?
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Re: The Road to the FIFA World Cup - South Africa 2010
by Parks lives Wed Oct 15, 2008 10:13 pm
Football 365's ratings
DAVID JAMES: Made a series of decent saves early in the game and could do nothing about the Belarus goal after his defence pretty much went AWOL. 7
WES BROWN: Given a torrid time by Pavel Sitko in the first half and for some inexplicable reason decided to duck to allow the winger a free header for his goal. Very generous but not exactly ideal for England. The Neviller would have never done that. Certainly improved second half but there really was only one way to go. 6
RIO FERDINAND: Once again England's best defender, but there was a serious dearth of competition. 7
MATTHEW UPSON: Remember the time when we had an embarrassment of riches at centre-half? Now it seems that our third-choice centre-back is a decent Premier League player who looks nervous and out of his depth at international level. Gave away a couple of clumsy free-kicks and rarely looked comfortable. 6
WAYNE BRIDGE: Who would ever have thought that less than ten minutes of Premier League action would not be perfect preparation for a key international clash? Looked rustier than John Hartson's exercise bike - ending up on his backside before the Belarus goal and time and again being caught out. Fabio Capello would not have played any other footballer who cannot get near his club side, so why make an exception for Bridge? Okay, he was left exposed by Steven Gerrard's wanderings in the first half, but that's no excuse for basic defensive errors. 5
THEO WALCOTT: Frustrating. He could have had the left-back on toast if he didn't have a tendency to allow the ball to run away from him, or shoot/cross too early. Defensively awful - Sitko had the better of him more than once - and was culpable for the Belarus goal along with Brown. No surprise when he was hauled off in the 68th minute. 5
FRANK LAMPARD: Little sign of the player who did so well against Croatia as - along with Barry - he was guilty of allowing the Belarussians to play the ball around in England's half without exerting any pressure, never mind actually making a challenge. Like everyone else, he improved after a rollicking. 6
GARETH BARRY: See above. 5
STEVEN GERRARD: Cracking finish for England's first goal but lacked the discipline to stay on the left during the first half, when Wayne Bridge really could have used the support. Much happier when given a freer role in the second half and linked well with Rooney (as he often does when allowed) for his second goal. Could have had another if he had a left foot. 7
WAYNE ROONEY: Does anyone still want to argue that he isn't England's best footballer? The movement and then the finish for his second goal of the night was phenomenal and capped off a night where he worked very, very hard and yet somehow resisted the urge to come back and make tackles on the edge of his own box. Truly a player bang in form. 9
EMILE HESKEY: Led the line absolutely brilliantly - chasing everything and usually winning everything too. Showed that he's more than a useful big man with two pieces of captivating play down the left - one of which led to Rooney's goal. 9
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SHAUN WRIGHT-PHILLIPS (Walcott, 68): Gave Wes Brown rather more help than Walcott and was neat and tidy in everything he did, Made more than a decent case for a start in England's next friendly. 7
PETER CROUCH (Heskey, 70): Fitted in where Heskey left off, giving the Belarus defence the usual amount of trouble. 7
DAVID JAMES: Made a series of decent saves early in the game and could do nothing about the Belarus goal after his defence pretty much went AWOL. 7
WES BROWN: Given a torrid time by Pavel Sitko in the first half and for some inexplicable reason decided to duck to allow the winger a free header for his goal. Very generous but not exactly ideal for England. The Neviller would have never done that. Certainly improved second half but there really was only one way to go. 6
RIO FERDINAND: Once again England's best defender, but there was a serious dearth of competition. 7
MATTHEW UPSON: Remember the time when we had an embarrassment of riches at centre-half? Now it seems that our third-choice centre-back is a decent Premier League player who looks nervous and out of his depth at international level. Gave away a couple of clumsy free-kicks and rarely looked comfortable. 6
WAYNE BRIDGE: Who would ever have thought that less than ten minutes of Premier League action would not be perfect preparation for a key international clash? Looked rustier than John Hartson's exercise bike - ending up on his backside before the Belarus goal and time and again being caught out. Fabio Capello would not have played any other footballer who cannot get near his club side, so why make an exception for Bridge? Okay, he was left exposed by Steven Gerrard's wanderings in the first half, but that's no excuse for basic defensive errors. 5
THEO WALCOTT: Frustrating. He could have had the left-back on toast if he didn't have a tendency to allow the ball to run away from him, or shoot/cross too early. Defensively awful - Sitko had the better of him more than once - and was culpable for the Belarus goal along with Brown. No surprise when he was hauled off in the 68th minute. 5
FRANK LAMPARD: Little sign of the player who did so well against Croatia as - along with Barry - he was guilty of allowing the Belarussians to play the ball around in England's half without exerting any pressure, never mind actually making a challenge. Like everyone else, he improved after a rollicking. 6
GARETH BARRY: See above. 5
STEVEN GERRARD: Cracking finish for England's first goal but lacked the discipline to stay on the left during the first half, when Wayne Bridge really could have used the support. Much happier when given a freer role in the second half and linked well with Rooney (as he often does when allowed) for his second goal. Could have had another if he had a left foot. 7
WAYNE ROONEY: Does anyone still want to argue that he isn't England's best footballer? The movement and then the finish for his second goal of the night was phenomenal and capped off a night where he worked very, very hard and yet somehow resisted the urge to come back and make tackles on the edge of his own box. Truly a player bang in form. 9
EMILE HESKEY: Led the line absolutely brilliantly - chasing everything and usually winning everything too. Showed that he's more than a useful big man with two pieces of captivating play down the left - one of which led to Rooney's goal. 9
SUBSTITUTES
SHAUN WRIGHT-PHILLIPS (Walcott, 68): Gave Wes Brown rather more help than Walcott and was neat and tidy in everything he did, Made more than a decent case for a start in England's next friendly. 7
PETER CROUCH (Heskey, 70): Fitted in where Heskey left off, giving the Belarus defence the usual amount of trouble. 7
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Re: The Road to the FIFA World Cup - South Africa 2010
by Fade out Wed Oct 15, 2008 10:14 pm
Pierre Littbarski wrote:zizoued wrote:Some muppet in 606 claims A.Young is better than Ribery. Yeah, right. though it should be said A.Young is a decent player, I rate him. As one would put it, "team oriented" and quite effective winger. I'd play him, Joe Cole, or SWP over Theo walcott, who simply put is not ready to start. Perhaps one day he will be consistent enough to satisfy the fans. You know like scoring hattricks or doing a maradona run in CL quarters, and stuff. I think the hype has got into his head. Nothing new.
It seems to me if England fails, it's going to be either Lampard or Gerrard's mistake.
I'm a Ribery fan but that's hardly teh most ridiculous claim I've heard.
Young gets serious end product in one of the big 3 leagues - Ribery chose to play in a joke league.
Neither has done anything at the very highest level.
Ribery is the reason France did as well in WC06. IMO, Vieira and Ribery raised France to go to KO phase with some great performance, and Zidane stole the limelight in KO phase. Ribery has proved he could perform at the highest level for France. And, I'm not sure whether Bundesliga is a "joke league". However, the way Bayern have started this season is a "joke".
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Re: The Road to the FIFA World Cup - South Africa 2010
by Super Progress Wed Oct 15, 2008 10:16 pm
70'
Things are heating up for Albania. Almedia just hit the inside of the post. Portugals fans are also getting mad. good combinations but they cant quite deliver the final ball. Ronaldo a good player but not such a good captain. he constantly whines at others and has a bad attitude.Carvalho should have gotten it.
Things are heating up for Albania. Almedia just hit the inside of the post. Portugals fans are also getting mad. good combinations but they cant quite deliver the final ball. Ronaldo a good player but not such a good captain. he constantly whines at others and has a bad attitude.Carvalho should have gotten it.
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Re: The Road to the FIFA World Cup - South Africa 2010
by Pierre Littbarski Wed Oct 15, 2008 10:18 pm
zizoued wrote:Pierre Littbarski wrote:zizoued wrote:Some muppet in 606 claims A.Young is better than Ribery. Yeah, right. though it should be said A.Young is a decent player, I rate him. As one would put it, "team oriented" and quite effective winger. I'd play him, Joe Cole, or SWP over Theo walcott, who simply put is not ready to start. Perhaps one day he will be consistent enough to satisfy the fans. You know like scoring hattricks or doing a maradona run in CL quarters, and stuff. I think the hype has got into his head. Nothing new.
It seems to me if England fails, it's going to be either Lampard or Gerrard's mistake.
I'm a Ribery fan but that's hardly teh most ridiculous claim I've heard.
Young gets serious end product in one of the big 3 leagues - Ribery chose to play in a joke league.
Neither has done anything at the very highest level.
Ribery is the reason France did as well in WC06. IMO, Vieira and Ribery raised France to go to KO phase with some great performance, and Zidane stole the limelight in KO phase. Ribery has proved he could perform at the highest level for France. And, I'm not sure whether Bundesliga is a "joke league". However, the way Bayern have started this season is a "joke".
Fair enough - I thought Ribery's performances at WC '06 were massively overhyped, as were Vieira's (but then his always have been)
Wonderful at Marseilles on the left though
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Pierre Littbarski wrote:
Young gets serious end product in one of the big 3 leagues - Ribery chose to play in a joke league.
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the only joke on here is YOU
why do you even bother ?
in terms of retardation, you are right up there with rai and deano
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Re: The Road to the FIFA World Cup - South Africa 2010
by Fade out Wed Oct 15, 2008 10:21 pm
I can't stand Crisitiano and Quaresma antics in the Sweden game. Both the c**ts were desperate and selfish to steal the spotlight. And then, Nani to complete the forward line, you could imagine how hard it is to sit through. The same game, Ibra was far better than any portugal forward, he has class written over his lanky style, and showed some team play (though Warrior Pepe nullified him effectively). Pity that Elmander couldn't finish off the chances.
I'm not really sure of Portugal doing well under Queeroz.
I'm not really sure of Portugal doing well under Queeroz.
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Re: The Road to the FIFA World Cup - South Africa 2010
by Parks lives Wed Oct 15, 2008 10:22 pm
Pierre Littbarski wrote:zizoued wrote:Pierre Littbarski wrote:zizoued wrote:Some muppet in 606 claims A.Young is better than Ribery. Yeah, right. though it should be said A.Young is a decent player, I rate him. As one would put it, "team oriented" and quite effective winger. I'd play him, Joe Cole, or SWP over Theo walcott, who simply put is not ready to start. Perhaps one day he will be consistent enough to satisfy the fans. You know like scoring hattricks or doing a maradona run in CL quarters, and stuff. I think the hype has got into his head. Nothing new.
It seems to me if England fails, it's going to be either Lampard or Gerrard's mistake.
I'm a Ribery fan but that's hardly teh most ridiculous claim I've heard.
Young gets serious end product in one of the big 3 leagues - Ribery chose to play in a joke league.
Neither has done anything at the very highest level.
Ribery is the reason France did as well in WC06. IMO, Vieira and Ribery raised France to go to KO phase with some great performance, and Zidane stole the limelight in KO phase. Ribery has proved he could perform at the highest level for France. And, I'm not sure whether Bundesliga is a "joke league". However, the way Bayern have started this season is a "joke".
Fair enough - I thought Ribery's performances at WC '06 were massively overhyped
Even Malouda was better in some games.
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Re: The Road to the FIFA World Cup - South Africa 2010
by Bashmachkin Wed Oct 15, 2008 10:22 pm
Yes, Almeida went really close - he hit the inside of the post with a header, and the ball bounced off the post across the path of the goalline, but the Albanian keeper managed to flick the ball with his right hand before catching it. That is the only real chance Portugal have had this half - they have all of the ball and they're really pressing when they do lose it, but they're not creating anything, whilst Albania are passing the ball out of defence well, and their defence looks pretty solid.
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- Post n°479
Re: The Road to the FIFA World Cup - South Africa 2010
by Bashmachkin Wed Oct 15, 2008 10:27 pm
Albania just had a very good chance, and probably should have scored - one of their players shot over from the left hand side of the six yard box when he could have slotted it across the box to another player.
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- Post n°480
Re: The Road to the FIFA World Cup - South Africa 2010
by Super Progress Wed Oct 15, 2008 10:27 pm
Berisha almost stole after some lucky dribbling but great determination. Albania had the chance with a player inside the box but Berisha was trying to be the hero and chose to shoot. Albania have really fought for this one but Portugal should have scored even though they have kind of dosed off in the last couple of minutes.
Bad day for Ronaldo, he miscontrols the ball and it goes out then the fans start booing then he gesticulates towards them that nothing works.
Bad day for Ronaldo, he miscontrols the ball and it goes out then the fans start booing then he gesticulates towards them that nothing works.
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