2010 World Cup Winner

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Remember the Vikings?

yes you got pwnd

Riviera wrote:

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Riviera wrote:Remember the Vikings?

yes you got pwnd

The Vikings weren't just Norwegians. There were certainly Swedes and Danes as well. The previous Svear kingdom which was mainly Swedish, played an important role in pre-Viking history of Scandinavia and development of the Vikings, although they tend to get ignored in favour of the Danish and Norwegian origins.

I find it astonishing how many votes Argentina and Spain are getting

the Gauchos cannot even reach the SEMIS, let alone the Final, let alone winning it outright

YEAR after YEAR after YEAR ....

they only won in 1986 because of Maradona

and these days Maradona could be the reason why their players f@ck it up completely

an outstanding , Cup-winning-player is also nowhere to be seen

Messi dazzles, but even Poldi scored more at the last World Cup

flair does not win games or Silverware

in other words

Argentina winning the Cup would probably be one of the biggest upsets in World CUp history

alongside Holland winning it

which brings us to Spain

the World Cup pedigree is even worse than that of Argentina (recently)

for whatever reason : these things MATTER

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the challenge will be to keep the concentration up for two years and to deal with the bigger pressure and expectations at home

don't just look at the players, or even how well they are playing NOW as a team or even up-coming talents

a lot is about mental focus

Brazil in 2006 were overwhelming favourites to the extent that Ze Roberto concluded they had the "best Brazil squad OF ALL TIME"

it meant NOTHING

they had ZERO hunger and focus

Bayern under Klinsi until recently were a mess, despite the fact that Klinsi had inherited a brilliant team from Hitzfeld

little changes here and there by Klinsi and Hannover, Bremen and co made them look ordinary

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Germany SHOULD be overwhelming favourites for 2010, but Löw could not care less about defense

we will have the 2006 final once again

with the same winner

you heard it here first

OOOOtttttttooooooooo....

EMP wrote:

Riviera wrote:Remember the Vikings?

yes you got pwnd

The Vikings weren't just Norwegians. There were certainly Swedes and Danes as well. The previous Svear kingdom which was mainly Swedish, played an important role in pre-Viking history of Scandinavia and development of the Vikings, although they tend to get ignored in favour of the Danish and Norwegian origins.

the Swedes went East and South, the Danes went West and South and the Norwegians got lost in the North Atlantic...

well of course, when I say Vikings I mean the old norse population. Which did go to England, the Norwegian vikings founded Dublin and took over land in the mid/southeast and the island og Man, for example.

York (Jorvik) for example was Danish.

The Norwegian king Harald Hardråde died at the battle of Stamford Bridge, to the English king Harald Godwinson. This is the end of the Viking age in Norway.

And not to mention all the words you've gotten from the old norse language (spoken in Norway during the Viking age)

I think you did get pwnd by my ancestors for a little while

Hem fet un mal partit wrote:

EMP wrote:

Riviera wrote:Remember the Vikings?

yes you got pwnd

The Vikings weren't just Norwegians. There were certainly Swedes and Danes as well. The previous Svear kingdom which was mainly Swedish, played an important role in pre-Viking history of Scandinavia and development of the Vikings, although they tend to get ignored in favour of the Danish and Norwegian origins.

the Swedes went East and South, the Danes went West and South and the Norwegians got lost in the North Atlantic...

You mean went to North America?

Yeah, awesome isn't it?

Riviera wrote:well of course, when I say Vikings I mean the old norse population. Which did go to England, the Norwegian vikings founded Dublin and took over land in the mid/southeast and the island og Man, for example.

York (Jorvik) for example was Danish.

The Norwegian king Harald Hardråde died at the battle of Stamford Bridge, to the English king Harald Godwinson. This is the end of the Viking age in Norway.

And not to mention all the words you've gotten from the old norse language (spoken in Norway during the Viking age)

I think you did get pwnd by my ancestors for a little while

So it was the Danes that conquered England then. There were linksa by marriage to Scotland later - the Maid of Norway if I remember correctly - just before Edward I united Britain through conquest. The Norwegian contribution is more in navigation and in islands as you mentioned. Hardrada ended the direct Viking threat, but as Roger has said previously the Norman conquest is really a Viking conquest as they conquered Normandy and William The Bastard - the Conqueror was known as that previously - conquered England and established the Plantagenets, which lasted for a few centuries. English monarchy had Norman - hence Viking roots for ages, but they were Danish Vikings weren't they?

Klöwsi RAUS ! wrote:I find it astonishing how many votes Argentina and Spain are getting

the Gauchos cannot even reach the SEMIS, let alone the Final, let alone winning it outright

YEAR after YEAR after YEAR ....

they only won in 1986 because of Maradona

and these days Maradona could be the reason why their players f@ck it up completely

an outstanding , Cup-winning-player is also nowhere to be seen

Messi dazzles, but even Poldi scored more at the last World Cup

flair does not win games or Silverware

in other words

Argentina winning the Cup would probably be one of the biggest upsets in World CUp history

alongside Holland winning it

which brings us to Spain

the World Cup pedigree is even worse than that of Argentina (recently)

for whatever reason : these things MATTER

+

the challenge will be to keep the concentration up for two years and to deal with the bigger pressure and expectations at home

don't just look at the players, or even how well they are playing NOW as a team or even up-coming talents

a lot is about mental focus

Brazil in 2006 were overwhelming favourites to the extent that Ze Roberto concluded they had the "best Brazil squad OF ALL TIME"

it meant NOTHING

they had ZERO hunger and focus

Bayern under Klinsi until recently were a mess, despite the fact that Klinsi had inherited a brilliant team from Hitzfeld

little changes here and there by Klinsi and Hannover, Bremen and co made them look ordinary

-----------------

Germany SHOULD be overwhelming favourites for 2010, but Löw could not care less about defense

we will have the 2006 final once again

with the same winner

you heard it here first

Dreamland old bean. What has Spain's recent historical WC record got to do with it? They had an equally $h!t Euro one too, but cleaned up and DESTROYED Germany in the final, 1-0 was a poor reflction on their total dominance.

Nothing to suggest history will change the fact that they are a better side than Germany, hence ergo bigger favourites.

Whilst Germany bicker their way through recent times, Spain are cruising.

Your bias lets you down once again. Think about it, hav a nice day, and come back soon

tbf, Spain had actually won the euro's before.

GianDeano Zola wrote:Other: England.

The fact that Spain destroyed Germany like some say and could only score one goal against a horrible defense shows they aren't so good.

The German team for the World Cup will be better than the one at the Euro. Adler is an improvement from Lehmann and now there are some creative players.

I'm pretty sure Adler (and Neuer), Kroos and Marin will add quality to the German side in positions which lacked something in the recent Euros.

In Adler and Neuer, Germany seem to be well set for the next 10 years with regards to keepers.

Marin is a winger with pace and trickery which Germany haven't had for a while, and in Kroos they have someone who looks like a No. 10. Despite his young age, Bayern should loan him out. He really needs to be playing more regularly.

Quite like the look of Castro too.

Calidad wrote:I'm pretty sure Adler (and Neuer), Kroos and Marin will add quality to the German side in positions which lacked something in the recent Euros.

In Adler and Neuer, Germany seem to be well set for the next 10 years with regards to keepers.

Marin is a winger with pace and trickery which Germany haven't had for a while, and in Kroos they have someone who looks like a No. 10. Despite his young age, Bayern should loan him out. He really needs to be playing more regularly.

Quite like the look of Castro too.

But Marin and Kroos clearly won't be ready for 2010, so this won't change the Germany's standing for this competition.

I'm happy to hear Germans hyping up their side anyway- they did so pre 2008 too, apparently the best side in Europe according to fans and The Kaiser.

The competition when they didnt - the WC 2006, is the one they played best in.

So really, it's clear to see that "favourites" labels mean nothing. Just ask us English supporters how disadvantageous it can be. I'm loving the fact that no one is taking up our own chances for 2010, just how it should be

So lets definitely say Germany, so we can then watch them fail to live up to expectation, based on a glorious pre millenium history and a stuttering 2008 campaign

Riviera wrote:

Hem fet un mal partit wrote:

EMP wrote:

Riviera wrote:Remember the Vikings?

yes you got pwnd

The Vikings weren't just Norwegians. There were certainly Swedes and Danes as well. The previous Svear kingdom which was mainly Swedish, played an important role in pre-Viking history of Scandinavia and development of the Vikings, although they tend to get ignored in favour of the Danish and Norwegian origins.

the Swedes went East and South, the Danes went West and South and the Norwegians got lost in the North Atlantic...

You mean went to North America?

Yeah, awesome isn't it?

But what did you actually do there??.. just a bunch of "fredloese" from Iceland..

Sorry but being half Dansih I can't resist

The "fredløse" explored and educated themselves on foreign cultures where they met life. Leiv Eiriksson was actually born in Norway, later migrated to Iceland with the rest of the fredløse

what did Columbus do?

Riviera wrote:The "fredløse" explored and educated themselves on foreign cultures where they met life. Leiv Eiriksson was actually born in Norway, later migrated to Iceland with the rest of the fredløse

what did Columbus do?

Prove he was a great sailor, but god-awful at navigation. I still reckon the first transatlantic crossing was centuries before Colon, or even Eriksson for that matter.

It probably was, you're right. But this time we have proof that someone actually went there, and stayed there for a little while

Otto's Olympic Dream wrote:

Calidad wrote:I'm pretty sure Adler (and Neuer), Kroos and Marin will add quality to the German side in positions which lacked something in the recent Euros.

In Adler and Neuer, Germany seem to be well set for the next 10 years with regards to keepers.

Marin is a winger with pace and trickery which Germany haven't had for a while, and in Kroos they have someone who looks like a No. 10. Despite his young age, Bayern should loan him out. He really needs to be playing more regularly.

Quite like the look of Castro too.

But Marin and Kroos clearly won't be ready for 2010, so this won't change the Germany's standing for this competition.

I'm happy to hear Germans hyping up their side anyway- they did so pre 2008 too, apparently the best side in Europe according to fans and The Kaiser.

The competition when they didnt - the WC 2006, is the one they played best in.

So really, it's clear to see that "favourites" labels mean nothing. Just ask us English supporters how disadvantageous it can be. I'm loving the fact that no one is taking up our own chances for 2010, just how it should be

So lets definitely say Germany, so we can then watch them fail to live up to expectation, based on a glorious pre millenium history and a stuttering 2008 campaign

I wasn't hyping up the side. Germany has been to 7 WC finals not 1 like England, so there is nothing wrong with people expecting Germany to be at least in the finals at worst the semi's. The only reason that Germany should not do good at the World Cup is if Loew doesn't fix the defensive problems.

Kroos and Marin aren't the only young players. There is also Ozil, Gebhart, etc. who may develop faster.

Riviera wrote:It probably was, you're right. But this time we have proof that someone actually went there, and stayed there for a little while

There is proof of the previous crossings - all archaeological though. For example ruins in New Jersey and Canada that indicate Phoenician buildings there regardless of Paraiba. I'll leave it to de Guzman to put the case for the Austronesians, which was considerably before the Phoenicians.

Couldn't someone from a siberian tribe just walked across the bering strait. I don't get this obsession with who first found America. Its not like people didn't already live there. Or the Continent didn't always exist.

Otto's Olympic Dream wrote:

Calidad wrote:I'm pretty sure Adler (and Neuer), Kroos and Marin will add quality to the German side in positions which lacked something in the recent Euros.

In Adler and Neuer, Germany seem to be well set for the next 10 years with regards to keepers.

Marin is a winger with pace and trickery which Germany haven't had for a while, and in Kroos they have someone who looks like a No. 10. Despite his young age, Bayern should loan him out. He really needs to be playing more regularly.

Quite like the look of Castro too.

But Marin and Kroos clearly won't be ready for 2010, so this won't change the Germany's standing for this competition.

I'm happy to hear Germans hyping up their side anyway- they did so pre 2008 too, apparently the best side in Europe according to fans and The Kaiser.

The competition when they didnt - the WC 2006, is the one they played best in.

So really, it's clear to see that "favourites" labels mean nothing. Just ask us English supporters how disadvantageous it can be. I'm loving the fact that no one is taking up our own chances for 2010, just how it should be

So lets definitely say Germany, so we can then watch them fail to live up to expectation, based on a glorious pre millenium history and a stuttering 2008 campaign

Marin has already made a few apps for the senior side and done well.

Fair point on Kroos though. I'd like to think he'll at least be a part of the squad however.

BrianS wrote:

Otto's Olympic Dream wrote:

Calidad wrote:I'm pretty sure Adler (and Neuer), Kroos and Marin will add quality to the German side in positions which lacked something in the recent Euros.

In Adler and Neuer, Germany seem to be well set for the next 10 years with regards to keepers.

Marin is a winger with pace and trickery which Germany haven't had for a while, and in Kroos they have someone who looks like a No. 10. Despite his young age, Bayern should loan him out. He really needs to be playing more regularly.

Quite like the look of Castro too.

But Marin and Kroos clearly won't be ready for 2010, so this won't change the Germany's standing for this competition.

I'm happy to hear Germans hyping up their side anyway- they did so pre 2008 too, apparently the best side in Europe according to fans and The Kaiser.

The competition when they didnt - the WC 2006, is the one they played best in.

So really, it's clear to see that "favourites" labels mean nothing. Just ask us English supporters how disadvantageous it can be. I'm loving the fact that no one is taking up our own chances for 2010, just how it should be

So lets definitely say Germany, so we can then watch them fail to live up to expectation, based on a glorious pre millenium history and a stuttering 2008 campaign

I wasn't hyping up the side. Germany has been to 7 WC finals not 1 like England, so there is nothing wrong with people expecting Germany to be at least in the finals at worst the semi's. The only reason that Germany should not do good at the World Cup is if Loew doesn't fix the defensive problems.

Kroos and Marin aren't the only young players. There is also Ozil, Gebhart, etc. who may develop faster.

I agree, Germany has a glorious WC history. A lot will depend on the draw now. Did you know that throughout Germany's entire WC history, they have only ever played Brazil twice, losing both?

So, the likelihood is if you play Brazil before the final , you won't get there.

If you managed to avoid Brazil, then no reason why you can't go all the way. BASED on historical evidence.

But, and this is the cynic in me (sour grapes? So sue me ), I imagine fate (FIFA) will once again transpire to make sure that doesnt happen. Not until the final at least. Just like in 2002, and what would have been the case in 2006 had Brazil beaten France and Germany beaten Italy

Khadrim wrote:Couldn't someone from a siberian tribe just walked across the bering strait. I don't get this obsession with who first found America. Its not like people didn't already live there. Or the Continent didn't always exist.

It's not the discovery; it's the seamanship. The earlier it was achieved, the more impressive the achievement. At least that's my interest in it.

Paraguay

ESPANA !!!

By July 2010, Spain will be World & Euro Champions'.

Spain won the Euro in 2008, and why not win the World Cup for the 1st time in our history.
We have the players, the talent & the quality.
I can't see why Spain can't win it.