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    Post by Tweesus Sun Nov 09, 2008 11:58 am

    What players in the championship do you think would be able to comfortably make the step up to the EPL?

    My suggestion is Wayne Hennessey. 21 years old. Was in Championship team of the season last year and won Wolves' Player of the season. Also he's firmly established himself as a first choice for Wales. Definately think that if Wolves don't get promoted this season then he'll be moving to another club in the summer.
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    Post by Football Genius Sun Nov 09, 2008 2:13 pm

    Kightly, at Wolves... think hes like 22, goalscoring midfielder... could follow in Tim Cahills footsteps to the premiership.
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    Post by The Easter Bunny Sun Nov 09, 2008 2:25 pm

    Football Genius wrote:Kightly, at Wolves... think hes like 22, goalscoring midfielder... could follow in Tim Cahills footsteps to the premiership.

    Just about to mention this guy, when Cambridge played Wolves in the FA cup it looked like we were going to take them back to the Abbey, he came on and you could notice a change in Wolves style of play, he went on and scored and knocked us out.

    What has happened to Surman (sp) there was a lot of hype about him last season, it seems to have died down recently.
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    Post by Calidad Sun Nov 09, 2008 2:43 pm

    That Ebanks Blake always seems to be scoring goals.

    I've heard good things about Delph in League One and Lahanna (sp?) at Southampton

    Mcfadden and Murphy for Birmingham as well would do fine.
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    Post by Deano Sun Nov 09, 2008 3:32 pm

    He's not even first choice at Wolves at the moment. Carl Ikeme is...
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Sun Nov 09, 2008 6:59 pm

    James Beattie
    Joe Ledley
    James McFaddon
    Jobi McAnus
    Tommy Smith
    Graeme Murty
    Sharabi Gunda
    John-Joe O'Toole
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    Post by fcb Sun Nov 09, 2008 7:02 pm

    Glenn Hysén wrote:James Beattie
    Joe Ledley
    James McFaddon
    Jobi McAnus
    Tommy Smith
    Graeme Murty
    Sharabi Gunda
    John-Joe O'Toole
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:28 am

    Glenn Hysén wrote:
    Joe Ledley
    ok january he'll be there
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    Post by Chocolate Thunder Mon Nov 10, 2008 1:52 pm

    Glenn Hysén wrote:James Beattie
    Joe Ledley
    James McFaddon
    Jobi McAnus
    Tommy Smith
    Graeme Murty
    Sharabi Gunda

    John-Joe O'Toole
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    Post by Isco Benny Mon Nov 10, 2008 6:24 pm

    Victor Moses at Palace. Went to watch them last season- he was head and shoulders the best player on the pitch
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    Post by Tweesus Thu Nov 13, 2008 6:47 pm

    GianDeano Zola wrote:He's not even first choice at Wolves at the moment. Carl Ikeme is...

    Ikeme's played ten games for Wolves in his entire career there, since 2003. I'd hardly call that first choice.
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    Post by DS Thu Nov 13, 2008 6:53 pm

    What about Delph anyone seen him play ?
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    Post by Tweesus Thu Nov 13, 2008 6:55 pm

    DS wrote:What about Delph anyone seen him play ?

    We've been linked to him so he must be good ok
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Fri Nov 14, 2008 1:08 am

    I'm getting on the Delph bandwagon early doors ok
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    Post by Tweesus Fri Nov 14, 2008 1:26 pm

    Interesting(ish) article on Delph:

    Sometimes you go on a scouting trip and the player takes time to convince you he can play. Not so Fabian Delph. Built like an Ethiopian marathon runner, this 18-year-old midfielder can play a huge part in the resurrection of this once-great club.

    At Swindon Town on Saturday Delph started wide on the left in a central three and combined very well with the left-winger and overlapping full-back. He was especially impressive when working the left channel and came into his own when that full-back, Alan Sheehan, was sent off.

    That did Delph a favour as he was pushed into a more central role where we saw a performance of real class. Delph is a player who demands the ball and his team-mates are only too keen to give it to him, but it is when he has the ball that his class shows. His first thought is to drive into space. Such is his pace he can pass his marker from a standing start, then he settles in space and starts to play.

    Because he could do this all over the pitch he constantly put the opposition on the defensive, dragging players towards him and so creating space for others. His boundless energy, which he uses not just with the ball but without it, was also seriously impressive, closing down at every opportunity and putting in tackles that belie his slender frame.

    Delph captained Leeds reserves at 17 and you can see why. Even at the tender age of 18 he demanded high standards from his team-mates.

    He frequently broke from midfield and his opponents could not stay with him. Once, in a two-on-two attack, he drew both defenders towards him and released the ball perfectly for Jermaine Beckford to have a clear shot on target.

    But this player is not just about hard work; there is skill too. After the ball looped about 20 yards in the air, Delph, in one swift movement, performed a Cruyff turn, leaving two defenders in his wake. It drew applause even from the Swindon fans around me.

    One or two things need to be worked on. He is left-footed but used his right only sparingly and though on one occasion he did manage to hit a team-mate with a very decent 20-yard cross, his passing of any great distance needs to be more effective. He either picked the wrong ball or hit it with either too much or too little pace.

    But this was a performance that really made an impression. Considering it was only his seventh senior game, Leeds have done an astute bit of business in tying this lad to a four-year contract. Whatever they are paying him, he is worth every penny. If he continues to develop he would be Premier League standard before long.

    After the game I sat on the train listening to Leeds fans saying he might leave if they do not gain promotion from League One. He is the best young player to come out of the system at Elland Road since Aaron Lennon in 2003. I don't think Leeds fans realise that it is precisely because of their numbers that they support such a big club, and that more than anything may be instrumental in him staying.
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    Post by Romford Pele Fri Nov 14, 2008 2:05 pm

    Heard United are looking to conclude a deal for him in January.
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    Post by DS Fri Nov 14, 2008 2:37 pm

    The latest I knew was Newcastle had a bid turned down.
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    Post by Pierre Littbarski Fri Nov 14, 2008 3:23 pm

    No doubt when he really makes it big Wenger will be quick to tell us how long ago he spotted him before coming up with a reason why he couldn't get him Erm
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    Post by EM Seleção e Selecção Fri Nov 14, 2008 5:43 pm

    DS wrote:What about Delph anyone seen him play ?
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    Post by EM Seleção e Selecção Fri Nov 14, 2008 5:54 pm

    Albert Adomah-Barnet
    George Boyd-Peterborough
    Joe Lewis-Peterborough
    Fabian Delph-Leeds
    Jermaine Beckford-Leeds
    Morgan Schneiderlin-Southampton
    Leroy Lita-Norwich/Reading
    Kris Commons-Derby
    Giles Barnes-Derby
    Bodde-Swansea
    Owen Garvan-Ipswich
    Joe Ledley-Cardiff
    Ross McCormack-Cardiff
    James Beattie-Sheff Utd
    Kevin Doyle-Reading
    Noel Hunt-Reading
    Stephen Hunt-Reading
    James McFadden-Birmingham
    Kevin Phillips-Birmingham
    Seb Larsson-Birmingham
    Quincy-Birmingham
    Michael Kightly-Wolves
    Ebanks-Blake-Wolves
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    Post by Pierre Littbarski Fri Nov 14, 2008 6:04 pm

    EMPortuguese wrote:Albert Adomah-Barnet
    George Boyd-Peterborough
    Joe Lewis-Peterborough
    Fabian Delph-Leeds
    Jermaine Beckford-Leeds
    Morgan Schneiderlin-Southampton
    Leroy Lita-Norwich/Reading
    Kris Commons-Derby
    Giles Barnes-Derby
    Bodde-Swansea
    Owen Garvan-Ipswich
    Joe Ledley-Cardiff
    Ross McCormack-Cardiff
    James Beattie-Sheff Utd
    Kevin Doyle-Reading
    Noel Hunt-Reading
    Stephen Hunt-Reading
    James McFadden-Birmingham
    Kevin Phillips-Birmingham
    Seb Larsson-Birmingham
    Quincy-Birmingham
    Michael Kightly-Wolves
    Ebanks-Blake-Wolves

    Too slow or weak.
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    Post by SuperMario Fri Nov 14, 2008 6:22 pm

    What about Nacer Barazite?
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    Post by Deano Fri Nov 14, 2008 7:21 pm

    Tweedle wrote:
    GianDeano Zola wrote:He's not even first choice at Wolves at the moment. Carl Ikeme is...

    Ikeme's played ten games for Wolves in his entire career there, since 2003. I'd hardly call that first choice.

    Yes he is 22...in 2003 he would've been 17 FFS... He only made his FULL LEAGUE DEBUT in September 2008...late September at that.

    I'm talking about this season. Ikeme has been first choice for Wolves, and is currently the first choice keeper at the moment. I suggest you read the article where you got your stats from...

    Hennessey has been dropped for poor performances, while Ikeme has came in and done well...

    Also I disagree with Pierre about Commons...he would be good enough for the Premiership IMO...Aaron McLean for Peterborough too...
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    Post by The Easter Bunny Fri Nov 14, 2008 7:32 pm

    Pierre Littbarski wrote:
    EMPortuguese wrote:Albert Adomah-Barnet
    George Boyd-Peterborough
    Joe Lewis-Peterborough
    Fabian Delph-Leeds
    Jermaine Beckford-Leeds
    Morgan Schneiderlin-Southampton
    Leroy Lita-Norwich/Reading
    Kris Commons-Derby
    Giles Barnes-Derby
    Bodde-Swansea
    Owen Garvan-Ipswich
    Joe Ledley-Cardiff
    Ross McCormack-Cardiff
    James Beattie-Sheff Utd
    Kevin Doyle-Reading
    Noel Hunt-Reading
    Stephen Hunt-Reading
    James McFadden-Birmingham
    Kevin Phillips-Birmingham
    Seb Larsson-Birmingham
    Quincy-Birmingham
    Michael Kightly-Wolves
    Ebanks-Blake-Wolves

    Too slow or weak.

    Joe Lewis Ale
    Deano mentioned Mclean, he will end up as a championship player ok
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    Post by Tweesus Fri Nov 14, 2008 11:56 pm

    GianDeano Zola wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:
    GianDeano Zola wrote:He's not even first choice at Wolves at the moment. Carl Ikeme is...

    Ikeme's played ten games for Wolves in his entire career there, since 2003. I'd hardly call that first choice.

    Yes he is 22...in 2003 he would've been 17 FFS... He only made his FULL LEAGUE DEBUT in September 2008...late September at that.


    Yes, and I think Hennessey is 21 and he's played something like 50 games for Wolves. He also holds the league record for clean sheets in a row so personally I see him as the hotter prospect.

    This season he's played 9 league games - he was sent off in one and I guess the manager is punishing him to a degree because of the dismissal.

    Anyway, Ikeme has played 8 games so technically he isn't the first choice yet Razz

    I've seen both, when they've been on loan at Stockport and Hennessey is the better keeper IMO.
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    Post by Deano Sat Nov 15, 2008 12:01 am

    I'm not doubting that...was just saying Ikeme has been first choice for a little while...he has been performing well, and Hennessey can't get back in the side. So if Hennessey is that good, then Ikeme must be at least nearly as good to keep him out of the side?
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    Post by Tweesus Sat Nov 15, 2008 12:02 am

    GianDeano Zola wrote:I'm not doubting that...was just saying Ikeme has been first choice for a little while...he has been performing well, and Hennessey can't get back in the side. So if Hennessey is that good, then Ikeme must be at least nearly as good to keep him out of the side?

    Well he's good, but personally I think its just McCarthy trying to get a response out of Hennessey.

    I still stand by my comment that Hennessey is good enough for the EPL ok
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    Post by DS Sat Nov 15, 2008 5:50 am

    Nathan Dyer ?
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    Post by christmasborocooper Sun Nov 16, 2008 7:39 pm

    Ibrahimovic? Not championship, but an inferior league..could do a job for Everton ok
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    Post by Sgoater1 Sun Nov 16, 2008 11:51 pm

    Going for players that i dont think have been mentioned....Wade Elliott at Burnley could maybe do a job, he has been imense there for the last 3 years and is very underated.

    Ben Watson at Palace is decent, Lee Camp at Forest, McGoldrick at Southampton al have potential to make the step up.

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