Holland v Scotland World Cup Qualifying 28/3/09

The big match of next weekend, an easy win for the Dutchies probably, although hopefully we don't get our butts kicked as badly as in the last match.

Holland squad: Henk Timmer (Feyenoord), Maarten Stekelenburg (Ajax), Michel Vorm (FC Utrecht); Giovanni van Bronckhorst (Feyenoord), Andre Ooijer (Blackburn), John Heitinga (Atletico Madrid), Khalid Boulahrouz (Stuttgart), Edson Braafheid (FC Twente), Dirk Marcellis (PSV Eindhoven), Joris Mathijsen (Hamburg), Gregory van der Wiel (Ajax); Mark van Bommel (Bayern Munich), Wesley Midget (Real Madrid), Ibrahim Afellay (PSV Eindhoven), Nigel de Jong (Manchester City), Demy de Zeeuw (AZ Alkmaar), Arjen Robben (Real Madrid), Rafael van der Vaart (Real Madrid), Stijn Schaars (AZ Alkmaar); Klaas Jan Huntelaar (Real Madrid), Dirk Kuyt, Ryan Babel (both Liverpool), Robin van Persie (Arsenal).

Scotland squad Craig Gordon (Sunderland), Allan McGregor (Rangers), David Marshall (Norwich City). Graham Alexander (Burnley), Darren Barr (Falkirk), Christophe Berra (Wolverhampton Wanderers), Kirk Clubfoot (Rangers), Gary Caldwell (Celtic), Alan Hutton (Tottenham Hotspur), Jamie McAllister (Bristol City), Stephen McManus (Celtic), Gary Naysmith (Sheffield United), David Weir (Rangers). Scott Brown (Celtic), Kris Commons (Derby County), Barry Ferguson (Rangers), Darren Fletcher (Manchester United), Paul Hartley (Celtic), James Morrison (West Bromwich Albion), Gavin Rae (Cardiff City), Gary Teale (Derby County). David Clarkson (Motherwell), Steven Fletcher (Hibernian), Chris Iwelumo (Wolverhampton Wanderers), Ross McCormack (Cardiff City), Kenny Miller (Rangers).

Half our squad is nowhere near good enough to be allowed to wear Oranje

Great job by the KNVB : after maybe our worst national manager in the history of our country (Van Bastard) they chose a Feyenoord c**t....so we've got an even worse manager now

Timmer WTF

So typical van Marwijk, glad he is gone!

Gary Teale ahead of Don Cowie

The Scotland squad looks horrid.

So does Holland...just look at those names compared to the late 90s

Scotland I don't like Holland, but prefered results would be them winning. I think they're through anyway, so less points for Scotland is better for us

Riviera wrote:Scotland I don't like Holland, but prefered results would be them winning. I think they're through anyway, so less points for Scotland is better for us

I've never even heard of a few of our squad, and our manager is a numpty.

Murray wrote:I've never even heard of a few of our squad, and our manager is a numpty.

Lol, when you say that you could still be both Dutch or Scottish !

Axeslammer wrote:

Murray wrote:I've never even heard of a few of our squad, and our manager is a numpty.

Lol, when you say that you could still be both Dutch or Scottish !

if that's the case you are not watching Dutch football...

Dutchies, your problems are minor compared to ours. We only won one game last year, and that was against Iceland.

Murray wrote:Dutchies, your problems are minor compared to ours. We only won one game last year, and that was against Iceland.

That's a Dutch way to find some compliments. You mustn't take that too serious...

Our problem is that in the group we're in our problems will not show up.

Taking the quality - or better lack of quality- of our defence over recent years into account, it's freakin amazing we're 3rd in the FIFA world ranking.

What Holland team would you make out of the current selection ?

Mine would be :

Is Ooijer first choice CB for you guys?

Looks dodgy when I see him for Blackburn.

Also: is van Bronckhorst immortal? Seems to have been around forever and ever.

debaser wrote:Is Ooijer first choice CB for you guys?

Looks dodgy when I see him for Blackburn.

Also: is van Bronckhorst immortal? Seems to have been around forever and ever.

Same answer to both questions : we don't have any better defenders & both always perform better for country than for club.

(although Van Marwijk probably has Mathijssen as first choice CB )

Ricardo Jol wrote:

Riviera wrote:Scotland I don't like Holland, but prefered results would be them winning. I think they're through anyway, so less points for Scotland is better for us

Oh it's nothing wrong with you but look at Hollands representatives at this forum...

Where's Engelaar ?

forza_rossi wrote:Where's Engelaar ?

Who ?

De Zeeuw, Schaars, Von Bommel & De Jong are all better DM's than Engelaar...

Axeslammer wrote:

forza_rossi wrote:Where's Engelaar ?

Who ?

De Zeeuw, Schaars, Von Bommel & De Jong are all better DM's than Engelaar...

Seconded.

Good news for us, some of our worst players are injured.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/7958801.stm

this morning I put some money on Holland winning

I feel like the big time gambler...

If the odds are anything like paddypower's 3/10 I wouldn't put a cent on it. Holland should win, but odds like these do not merit a bet. Anyway hope we reward your confidence and bag a comfortable win.

Well there was also 11 other games I bet on, so the Holland game was mandatory This weekend will be very chinteresting

My main problem with that match is that Holland are already clear in the group. We'll certainly play to win, but a draw wouldn't be a disaster.

Just read Gemmill's suggested tactics: 2 fullbacks, 3 (THREE) centre halves, 3 DMFs, 1 striker & Commons playing off him.

Park the bus Aye!

Murray wrote:Good news for us, some of our worst players are injured.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/7958801.stm

David weir is 38 what was he doing in the squad

Wonder who'll start for Holland. If we stick to 4-2-3-1 there are 2 spots for Kuyt, RVP, VDV, Sneijder & Afellay (assuming Huntelaar plays CF, Robben plays LW & Babel is warming the bench). My guess is VDV or Sneijder as ACM & either Kuyt or RVP as right winger.

Khadrim wrote:

Murray wrote:Good news for us, some of our worst players are injured.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/7958801.stm

David weir is 38 what was he doing in the squad

With snail Huntelaar being our CF that shouldn't be a problem.

De Guzman wrote:

Khadrim wrote:

Murray wrote:Good news for us, some of our worst players are injured.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/7958801.stm

David weir is 38 what was he doing in the squad

With snail Huntelaar being our CF that shouldn't be a problem.

If they park the bus, Huntelaar can stay in their box....that's where he's at his best !

If they'd defend 30 meters from their own goal they'd do much better at keeping El Cazador at bay...(but then they get raped by Kuyt, RVP and Robben )