They seem to be seriously considering this. But haven't heard anything on here. It sounds ridiculous to me. Though a nice way for the Old Firm to slip in.
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They seem to be seriously considering this. But haven't heard anything on here. It sounds ridiculous to me. Though a nice way for the Old Firm to slip in.
They seem to be seriously considering this. But haven't heard anything on here. It sounds ridiculous to me. Though a nice way for the Old Firm to slip in.
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Others such as Aston Villa, Tottenham and Everton, who may consider it unlikely they would ever drop out of a 20-team Premier League, may also have misgivings.
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They've had relegation worries two seasons running FFS...
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They've had relegation worries two seasons running FFS...
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Its ridiculous.
If the Old firm seriously want to join English football then they should just start them off in the Championship.
If the Old firm seriously want to join English football then they should just start them off in the Championship.
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Tweedle wrote:Its ridiculous.
If the Old firm seriously want to join English football then they should just start them off in the Championship.
League Two...Simple as.
They haven't earned the right to be in the second tier of the English football League. Clubs like Plymouth and Doncaster have had to fight their way up from lower leagues.
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I think we should merge the premier league, championship, league 1 and 2, then divide them up into a 4-tiered Premier League of 92 teams, divisions 1,2,3 and 4
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They can all F themselves for all I care.
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The league certainly needs a shake up, but this is a stupid idea and won't solve anything. Plus the old firm aren't welcome here.
The premiership needs...
... less european spots(2 for the CL and 2 for the waffa cup)
... a wage cap that is affordable to all teams
... a transfer cap that is affordable to all teams
... a squad limit, so teams don't hoard all the young players
... and some stricter financial regulations, clubs shouldn't be allowed to accumulate £750m debts.
Maybe then we'll have a fair competition.
The premiership needs...
... less european spots(2 for the CL and 2 for the waffa cup)
... a wage cap that is affordable to all teams
... a transfer cap that is affordable to all teams
... a squad limit, so teams don't hoard all the young players
... and some stricter financial regulations, clubs shouldn't be allowed to accumulate £750m debts.
Maybe then we'll have a fair competition.
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Kimbo wrote:The league certainly needs a shake up, but this is a stupid idea and won't solve anything. Plus the old firm aren't welcome here.
The premiership needs...
... less european spots(2 for the CL and 2 for the waffa cup)
... a wage cap that is affordable to all teams
... a transfer cap that is affordable to all teams
... a squad limit, so teams don't hoard all the young players
... and some stricter financial regulations, clubs shouldn't be allowed to accumulate £750m debts.
Maybe then we'll have a fair competition.
I agree, but the thing people seem to forget with regards to the 750mill debt is that it's hardly helping the club. It's not like it was taken out for players or a new stadium. It is there purely because the owners wanted to take over and borrowed money to do so. The club would have been still doing as well and spending as much without this happening.
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L-r d wrote:Kimbo wrote:The league certainly needs a shake up, but this is a stupid idea and won't solve anything. Plus the old firm aren't welcome here.
The premiership needs...
... less european spots(2 for the CL and 2 for the waffa cup)
... a wage cap that is affordable to all teams
... a transfer cap that is affordable to all teams
... a squad limit, so teams don't hoard all the young players
... and some stricter financial regulations, clubs shouldn't be allowed to accumulate £750m debts.
Maybe then we'll have a fair competition.
I agree, but the thing people seem to forget with regards to the 750mill debt is that it's hardly helping the club. It's not like it was taken out for players or a new stadium. It is there purely because the owners wanted to take over and borrowed money to do so. The club would have been still doing as well and spending as much without this happening.
I agree, but the debt is increasing year on year, and i'm not entirely sure why. Maybe it will stop when they reach a billion.
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GianDeano Zola wrote:Others such as Aston Villa, Tottenham and Everton, who may consider it unlikely they would ever drop out of a 20-team Premier League, may also have misgivings.
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They've had relegation worries two seasons running FFS...
Have we?
Mid season relegation worries are a hell of a lot different to being in the mire at the end of the season.
This plan sounds daft. There's my tuppence worth
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It'll never happen. Remember the Rangers fans riot at last seasons Uefa cup final, that would happen every week.
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Aside from the fact i don't know why you posted it in this thread. As gifs go...that sucks
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The Tupac Twitch wrote:GianDeano Zola wrote:Others such as Aston Villa, Tottenham and Everton, who may consider it unlikely they would ever drop out of a 20-team Premier League, may also have misgivings.
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They've had relegation worries two seasons running FFS...
Have we?
Mid season relegation worries are a hell of a lot different to being in the mire at the end of the season.
This plan sounds daft. There's my tuppence worth
I'd say this season we were, even though you could say we were safe with 6-7 matches to go.
last year we weren't really in big trouble, just massively underperforming, especially after the CC final.
The season before that (06-07) we were very slow out of the gate as well, only a huge push over the last dozen games or so got us into 5th.
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Dragões azuis e brancos wrote:The Tupac Twitch wrote:GianDeano Zola wrote:Others such as Aston Villa, Tottenham and Everton, who may consider it unlikely they would ever drop out of a 20-team Premier League, may also have misgivings.
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They've had relegation worries two seasons running FFS...
Have we?
Mid season relegation worries are a hell of a lot different to being in the mire at the end of the season.
This plan sounds daft. There's my tuppence worth
I'd say this season we were, even though you could say we were safe with 6-7 matches to go.
last year we weren't really in big trouble, just massively underperforming, especially after the CC final.
The season before that (06-07) we were very slow out of the gate as well, only a huge push over the last dozen games or so got us into 5th.
I don't agree.
Yes there were relegation worries this season, but they're non existent at the time it actually matters (ie the end of the season).
What happens in the beginning and mid part of the season is only important in terms of where the team end up at the end in May.
As an example, look at Villa. At the end of the season, can it be realistically claimed they were "near" getting into the Champions league if they end up trailing 10 or more points behind Arsenal?
Hull were in 4th for much of the beginning part of the season, were they ever realistically going to push for Europe?
Since the inception of the Prem League, we've never been in the relegation scrap at the end of the season.
If anything, of those 3 teams mentioned its Everton who have been closer to relegation then we ever have.
Did I mention this idea is daft.
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The Tupac Twitch wrote:Dragões azuis e brancos wrote:The Tupac Twitch wrote:GianDeano Zola wrote:Others such as Aston Villa, Tottenham and Everton, who may consider it unlikely they would ever drop out of a 20-team Premier League, may also have misgivings.
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They've had relegation worries two seasons running FFS...
Have we?
Mid season relegation worries are a hell of a lot different to being in the mire at the end of the season.
This plan sounds daft. There's my tuppence worth
I'd say this season we were, even though you could say we were safe with 6-7 matches to go.
last year we weren't really in big trouble, just massively underperforming, especially after the CC final.
The season before that (06-07) we were very slow out of the gate as well, only a huge push over the last dozen games or so got us into 5th.
I don't agree.
Yes there were relegation worries this season, but they're non existent at the time it actually matters (ie the end of the season).
What happens in the beginning and mid part of the season is only important in terms of where the team end up at the end in May.
As an example, look at Villa. At the end of the season, can it be realistically claimed they were "near" getting into the Champions league if they end up trailing 10 or more points behind Arsenal?
Hull were in 4th for much of the beginning part of the season, were they ever realistically going to push for Europe?
Since the inception of the Prem League, we've never been in the relegation scrap at the end of the season.
If anything, of those 3 teams mentioned its Everton who have been closer to relegation then we ever have.
Did I mention this idea is daft.
Yes you did - as if the EPL structure hasn't crushed other levels of football enough.
1997-98, we were deffo in a drop zone scrap - remember Jurgen Klinsmann scoring 4 times at Wimbledon to keep us up? 2003-04 wasn't pretty either.
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So what exactly is a two tier premier league?
A league that splits at the half way stage like the SPL currently does? Or like the SPL, the league below is financed by the top league as well? Seems to be rather vague, unless I'm missing something.
A league that splits at the half way stage like the SPL currently does? Or like the SPL, the league below is financed by the top league as well? Seems to be rather vague, unless I'm missing something.
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I'd have thought two leagues, parallel to one another with 18 in each, and then the top two playing for the title in a playoff thing? But that wouldn't be tiers would it, so I'll shutup.
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League nonsense?
How about this:
Bridgewater Office Supplies Manchester Football League Premier Division (18 clubs)
Buckingham Insurance Central Midlands League Supreme Division (18 clubs)
Carlsberg South West Peninsula Football League Division One East (18 clubs)
Carlsberg South West Peninsula Football League Division One West (18 clubs)
Carlsberg West Cheshire Amateur Football League Division One (17 clubs)
Cherry Red Books Middlesex County Football League Premier Division (13 clubs)
Cheshire Building Society Cheshire Football League Division One (16 clubs)
Crawley & District Premier Division (8 clubs)
Dolphin Autos Anglian Combination Premier (16 clubs)
Dorset Premier League (15 clubs)
East Berkshire Football League Premier Division (11 clubs)
Everards Brewery Leicestershire Senior League Premier Division (14 clubs)
Gray Hooper Holt LLP Mid-Sussex Football League Premier Division (13 clubs)
Hertfordshire Senior County League Premier Division (16 clubs)
Ian Hart Funeral Service Worthing & District Football League Premier Division (8 clubs)
Juice Radio 107.2 Brighton, Hove & District Football League Premier Division (11 clubs)
K&P Motoring World East Sussex Football League Premier Division (10 clubs)
Kent Blaxill Essex & Suffolk Border Football League Premier Division (16 clubs)
Kershaw Cambridgeshire County League Premier Division (16 teams)
Keystone Roofing Supplies Northamptonshire Combination Premier Division (14 clubs)
LFC Insurance Group Essex Olympian Football League (15 clubs)
Liverpool County Premier League Premier Division (16 clubs)
Marshall Peterborough & District Football League Premier Division (16 clubs)
Metalec Suffolk & Ipswich Football League Senior Division (16 clubs)
Midland Football Combination Division One (17 clubs)
Molten Spartan South Midlands Division Two (18 clubs)
North Berkshire Football League Division One (12 clubs)
Oxfordshire Senior Football League Premier Division (12 clubs)
Peter Smith Recruitment Northampton Town Football League Premier Division (12 clubs)
Plaister Auto Services Wiltshire Football League Premier Division (17 clubs)
Puma Engineering Hampshire Premier League (18 teams)
Re/Max Northern Football Alliance Premier Division (17 clubs)
Reading Football League Senior Division (11 clubs)
Somerset County League Premier Division (18 clubs)
Sports 360 West Lancashire Football League Premier Division (16 clubs)
Sportsform Bedfordshire Football League Premier Division (15 clubs)
Staffordshire County Senior League Premier Division (18 clubs)
Surridge Gloucestershire County Football League (17 clubs)
Sussex County League Division Three (14 clubs)
Vandanel Kent County Football League Premier Division (15 clubs)
Wearside Football League (20 clubs)
West Midlands Regional League Division One (17 clubs)
West Sussex Football League Premier Division (10 clubs)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_conf/7201054.stm
How about this:
Bridgewater Office Supplies Manchester Football League Premier Division (18 clubs)
Buckingham Insurance Central Midlands League Supreme Division (18 clubs)
Carlsberg South West Peninsula Football League Division One East (18 clubs)
Carlsberg South West Peninsula Football League Division One West (18 clubs)
Carlsberg West Cheshire Amateur Football League Division One (17 clubs)
Cherry Red Books Middlesex County Football League Premier Division (13 clubs)
Cheshire Building Society Cheshire Football League Division One (16 clubs)
Crawley & District Premier Division (8 clubs)
Dolphin Autos Anglian Combination Premier (16 clubs)
Dorset Premier League (15 clubs)
East Berkshire Football League Premier Division (11 clubs)
Everards Brewery Leicestershire Senior League Premier Division (14 clubs)
Gray Hooper Holt LLP Mid-Sussex Football League Premier Division (13 clubs)
Hertfordshire Senior County League Premier Division (16 clubs)
Ian Hart Funeral Service Worthing & District Football League Premier Division (8 clubs)
Juice Radio 107.2 Brighton, Hove & District Football League Premier Division (11 clubs)
K&P Motoring World East Sussex Football League Premier Division (10 clubs)
Kent Blaxill Essex & Suffolk Border Football League Premier Division (16 clubs)
Kershaw Cambridgeshire County League Premier Division (16 teams)
Keystone Roofing Supplies Northamptonshire Combination Premier Division (14 clubs)
LFC Insurance Group Essex Olympian Football League (15 clubs)
Liverpool County Premier League Premier Division (16 clubs)
Marshall Peterborough & District Football League Premier Division (16 clubs)
Metalec Suffolk & Ipswich Football League Senior Division (16 clubs)
Midland Football Combination Division One (17 clubs)
Molten Spartan South Midlands Division Two (18 clubs)
North Berkshire Football League Division One (12 clubs)
Oxfordshire Senior Football League Premier Division (12 clubs)
Peter Smith Recruitment Northampton Town Football League Premier Division (12 clubs)
Plaister Auto Services Wiltshire Football League Premier Division (17 clubs)
Puma Engineering Hampshire Premier League (18 teams)
Re/Max Northern Football Alliance Premier Division (17 clubs)
Reading Football League Senior Division (11 clubs)
Somerset County League Premier Division (18 clubs)
Sports 360 West Lancashire Football League Premier Division (16 clubs)
Sportsform Bedfordshire Football League Premier Division (15 clubs)
Staffordshire County Senior League Premier Division (18 clubs)
Surridge Gloucestershire County Football League (17 clubs)
Sussex County League Division Three (14 clubs)
Vandanel Kent County Football League Premier Division (15 clubs)
Wearside Football League (20 clubs)
West Midlands Regional League Division One (17 clubs)
West Sussex Football League Premier Division (10 clubs)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_conf/7201054.stm
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Why does the Scottish league have so few teams when there's easily enough for a full sized league?
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AttendancesSix wrote:Why does the Scottish league have so few teams when there's easily enough for a full sized league?
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/a/aston_villa/8024676.stm
Martin O'Neil is WHAT?
Martin O'Neil is WHAT?
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A DISGRACE
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There is already enough competition for the Europa league spots..
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debaser wrote:AttendancesSix wrote:Why does the Scottish league have so few teams when there's easily enough for a full sized league?
The fact we have 5 million people and 42 league clubs. Add to this that most gloryhunters follow the Old Firm and it's very hard to have a decent league.
The biggest attendance in the 2nd division this season was over 5,000 at Raith Rovers vs East Fife. Ayr as a town has 46,000 people in it. Their average attendance is 1,000.
OId Firm want get to move to the Premier League no matter how much they want to. The junkies that follow them wouldn't be able trips to Portsmouth and London every second weekend.
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The gloryhunting in Scotland is rife...I do actually know some supporters of what was their local team (Dunfermline, Ayr Utd and Queen Of The South)...otherwise everyone else just supports Rangers and Celtic. You never know, a move for Celtic and Rangers could improve the Scottish League. It could be more competitive, and locals may start to follow their local teams more, meaning attendances improve. The only danger is that the league will be losing it's two biggest teams. However, both options have to be weighed up.
Cardiff, Swansea and Wrexham being in our league makes more sense than them being the the League Of Wales.
Cardiff, Swansea and Wrexham being in our league makes more sense than them being the the League Of Wales.
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