The team that could beat Barca 08/09

Can you make the team that could beat Barca 08/09?

This is mine

-------------Buffon

Essien--Terry--Carragher--A. Cole

---Gerrard--Ballack--Lampard

---Torres--Drogba--Forlan


Coach: Hiddink

Make yours!

Either from past or current players

It could be fun

Who's the ref

Definitely not Ballack. We had a great chance of beating them until this German lion decided to duck under Iniesta's shot.

S4P wrote:Definitely not Ballack. We had a great chance of beating them until this German lion decided to duck under Iniesta's shot.

What message does it send out when you give a bloke a new contract for costing you a place in the final

Seriously though bizarre decision to give him one. He's old he's not that good and he didn't even make the f.a cup final team.

Silly Little Girl wrote:
-------------Buffon

Essien--Terry--Carragher--A. Cole

---Gerrard--Ballack--Lampard

---Torres--Drogba--Forlan

You think a side with two of the most static centrehalves in the world, three AMs and no wingers is going to beat the best passing side around?

Seriously?









No, SERIOUSLY?




This is one of the worst XIs I've ever seen. It's one redeeming feature is being played in only his third best position.

kas wrote:Who's the ref

why terry, this c**t missed penalty in the last years final, a born looser

S4P wrote:Definitely not Ballack. We had a great chance of beating them until this German lion decided to duck under Iniesta's shot.

i think guus was thinking the same, thats the reason he was no starter for chelsea since this game

@topic
this 11 can beat barca, only more pace would be fine, so put ribery in


you cant beat barca with there own strength, so you must work hard as a team like the chelsesa side, and a player like ballack with his experience
is important

my 11


---------------iker

bosingwa-terry-ferdinand-lahm

-------------essien
-----lampard-----ballack

a winger-drogba-ribery

---------------Casillas
Maicon-Chiellini-Carvalho-Cashley
--------Essien----Lampard
---Arshavin--Kaka---Ribery
---------------Villa

Unflinching Frenchman wrote:---------------Casillas
Maicon-Chiellini-Carvalho-Cashley
--------Essien----Lampard
---Arshavin--Kaka---Ribery
---------------Villa

That's close, but IMO I'd make a few changes:

Mascherano for Lampard
Ronaldo for Arshavin
Drogba for Villa


It's easier to stop Iniesta/Xavi if you put an extra DM in there instead of Lampard. No need for him with Kaka around. Essien is dynamic enough to prevent it being too defensive.


Fullbacks could easily be Bosingwa and Evra...but it doesn't really matter as long as they're fast.


CBs is spot on more or less: one clever ball player, one hardman. This is similar to Ferdinand-Vidic. Their main problem in the final was they weren't told what to do with Messi's positioning. He was in between the defensive and midfield lines, and left them with nobody to mark (makes you wonder just what Ferguson was doing when he claimed he watched the 6-2 Clasico, because Messi spent the entire match in that position, similarly confusing Cannavaro and Metzelder).


Arshavin's a great player but Ronaldo has the same speed and ball control, and adds the strength and aerial threat (and can also float into the middle) that can really trouble Barça. Plus long range shots to pick on Valdes.


And Drogba over Villa should be self-explanatory.

That would also work. I set up my team to use the vision and passing ability of Kaka, Lampard, Arshavin, & Ribery. Villa plays off the last defender, and his mobility will trouble any defence with the service behind. His finishing is better than Drogba, full-stop. Kaka, Lampard and Essien could shoot from long distance. I thought long about Cristiano's aerial threat, and goal poaching ability long and hard. My team has finishers with better shot conversion ratio than Ronaldo. But I don't necessarily disagree with your suggestion, it could work also.

I'd also take Xabi over Mascherano (who I think is overrated based on current form) I don't want to just "destroy" Barca's football (Messi, Xavi and Iniesta specifically), I want this team to pass & play. Lampard has been the most effective player (goals + assists + Key passes) in Premier league this season, and he plays a midfielder than a SS role. And I'd not be surprised if Gerrard & Torres are replacements for Lampard & Villa.

Some people here think football is that simple. You don't just assemble 11 world class players and expect them to perform anything close to their potential in one game. They'd be ripped to shreds against a top team like Barca who are well drilled and have got existing partnerships(about as important as talent IMO) in the side.

I'd say forget picking 11 star players, just play the current Liverpool team against them and you've got a far bigger chance of beating Barca.

The Professor wrote:

Some people here think football is that simple. You don't just assemble 11 world class players and expect them to perform anything close to their potential in one game. They'd be ripped to shreds against a top team like Barca who are well drilled and have got existing partnerships(about as important as talent IMO) in the side.

I'd say forget picking 11 star players, just play the current Liverpool team against them and you've got a far bigger chance of beating Barca.

Just do it for fun!! I know football is not that simple

Silly team and a silly thread.

BoBo=Silly poster

Özil wrote:why terry, this c**t missed penalty in the last years final, a born looser

S4P wrote:Definitely not Ballack. We had a great chance of beating them until this German lion decided to duck under Iniesta's shot.

i think guus was thinking the same, thats the reason he was no starter for chelsea since this game

@topic
this 11 can beat barca, only more pace would be fine, so put ribery in


you cant beat barca with there own strength, so you must work hard as a team like the chelsesa side, and a player like ballack with his experience
is important

my 11


---------------iker

bosingwa-terry-ferdinand-lahm

-------------essien
-----lampard-----ballack

a winger-drogba-ribery

Torres and Forlan aren't pacey enough for you?

Silly Little Girl wrote:BoBo=Silly poster

don't be silly

You already are

Chelsea or Liverpool.

Man Utd if Hargreaves is fit.

From Serie A I'd most fancy Juventus.

Tweedle wrote:Chelsea or Liverpool.

Man Utd if Hargreaves is fit.

From Serie A I'd most fancy Juventus.

How many Chelsea, Liverpool and Juve players did you see in my formation?

Silly Little Girl wrote:

Tweedle wrote:Chelsea or Liverpool.

Man Utd if Hargreaves is fit.

From Serie A I'd most fancy Juventus.

How many Chelsea, Liverpool and Juve players did you see in my formation?

Its a really shit formation though.

If we were doing the whole random XI thing, I'd play:

--------------Buffon-----------

Bosingwa---Rio---Chiellini---Evra

-------Mascherano--Essien--------

Ronaldo-----Gerrard-----Arshavin

---------------Drogba------------

Valdes

Alves - Pique - Puyol - Abidal

Toure

Xavi - Iniesta

Messi - Villa - Ribery

that team would beat Barca 08/09.

I disagree, Milito for Puyol and yes. Puyol is just so shit.

---------------------Casillas

S. Ramos-----Albiol-----Pepe-----Arbeloa

------------L. Diarra-----X. Alonso

Higuain-----------Kaka--------C. Ronaldo

-----------------Benzema

Jaime wrote:---------------------Casillas

S. Ramos-----Albiol-----Pepe-----Arbeloa

------------L. Diarra-----X. Alonso

Higuain-----------Kaka--------C. Ronaldo

-----------------Benzema

yet we are HEAVY favorites for the league

Im not suprised by who replied first!!

Messiah wrote:

Jaime wrote:---------------------Casillas

S. Ramos-----Albiol-----Pepe-----Arbeloa

------------L. Diarra-----X. Alonso

Higuain-----------Kaka--------C. Ronaldo

-----------------Benzema

yet we are HEAVY favorites for the league

You are favourites for the league. Don't try and deny it. But in a one off, we'll crush you.

Are Madrid really buying Arbeloa just so he can play left back against Messi two times a season?

Six wrote:Are Madrid really buying Arbeloa just so he can play left back against Messi two times a season?

No, I think we're trying to buy him to play left back for about 38 games per season.

Jaime wrote:

Six wrote:Are Madrid really buying Arbeloa just so he can play left back against Messi two times a season?

No, I think we're trying to buy him to play left back for about 38 games per season.

You can't find a better fit than a 7/10 right back?

Higuain on the right?