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    The end of Lyon as a top CL team?

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    Post by L r dd Mon Feb 08, 2010 7:55 am

    Lyon have been the biggest French team for what 6 seasons now. But they've been replaced by Bordeaux as the best team. But this season i've been following them a bit(due to betting) They've looked pretty terrible and a few good results(not performances) aside v Pool in the CL they have been poor all seasons pretty much everywhere.

    As things stand they look like missing out on the CL next season. And with other teams getting cash and Lyon looking like needing a player overhaul i think it could be awhile before Lyon are back to being a knockout phase team. Their decline has come pretty quickly in the last two seasons.

    1 Bordeaux 23 8 2 1 20 4 7 1 4 18 14 20 48
    2 Montpellier 23 8 1 2 14 6 6 2 4 18 19 7 45
    3 Lille 23 8 3 1 25 8 4 2 5 18 15 20 41
    4 Lyon 23 6 2 3 18 14 5 5 2 20 14 10 40
    5 Marseille 22 6 2 2 17 9 5 4 3 21 16 13 39
    6 Monaco 23 8 2 2 19 9 4 1 6 11 18 3 39
    7 Auxerre 23 7 2 3 15 11 4 4 3 6 9 1 39
    8 Rennes 23 8 2 2 21 9 2 5 4 12 12 12 37
    9 Lorient 23 5 4 2 23 14 5 1 6 13 12 10 35


    I fancy Marseille to finish above them as well as the top two currently.
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    Post by Black Magic Mon Feb 08, 2010 2:04 pm

    I was talking to a guy who bet on Lyon to win the league at 7/1 a few weeks ago - Apparently they have a very easy fixture list for the second half of the season.

    I havent followed them at all in Ligue 1 but they were tactically sound in the CL. Its not as if they no longer have talented players. They still have the best squad in France, but Bordeaux's team is gelled together beautifully.

    Puel looked a good coach in the CL, maybe the constant changes each season has caught up with them? On the other hand, sometimes seasons like this just happen for teams.

    French football is very unpredictable - Grenoble won 5-0 against Auxerre this weekend!
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    Post by Calidad Mon Feb 08, 2010 3:27 pm

    On paper they still have the best squad/depth. Perhaps need a CB or two, but I think it's upfront that they have been struggling recently, which is odd given the players they have at disposal.

    I don't think it's the end of an era for them, but rather just patchy form. I think the other sides have upped their game though, which is obviously only good for the league.
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    Post by OrangeSky Mon Feb 08, 2010 4:20 pm

    With the departure of Benzema and icon Juninho they seem to be transitioning a bit. I don't think they will win, but they can easily qualify for Champions League football if they sort themselves out. The point difference is not that crazy, so there is no reason to freak out and make statements like this.

    Things are not totally lost though. They have Pjanic, who is easily one of the most talented players I have seen in a while. They also managed to pick up Lisandro, who has fit in well. They have been very inconsistent this season, but this is when they fell apart last season as well, so im not totally shocked by their current form.

    Anyway, I'm happy that Lyon and Marseille are shitting all over pitches this season. It's nice of Lille and Montpellier to come so far. From promotion to title race contender, I couldn't care less how bad Lyon do. There are more exciting things happening in France! bounce
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    Post by Pierre Littbarski Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:55 pm

    They still look well placed for CL qualification to me - maybe I'm reading the table wrong scratch
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    Post by Puro Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:52 pm

    Lyon playing possum and just playing the waiting game, ready to pounce at the exact right moment. Really looking forward to their matches against Real Madrid. Whoop
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    Post by A & K Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:29 am

    Bordeaux has taken the first pot in France, there's no doubt about that. Montpellier, Lyon, Marseille and Lille will battle hard til the last day for the other two spots. Bordeaux should qualify for the next round of the champions league, whereas Lyon wont and Marseille should as well qualify for the next round of the europa cup so we will only have the ligue to play. Montpellier have been the surprise package this year. They are playing tremendously well. Hope Bordeaux, Marseille and Lyon do get the first 3 places so they can experience again C.L games.
    As for Lyon we are had a weird and inconsistant year. We started amazingly then we fell appart. I think we are in transition because lots of players left and lots of them arrived (Gomis, Lisandro, Bastos, Lovrem). I do think we are more balanced than last year though with a better bench but we need a better coach to be competitive again in the C.L.
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    Post by L r dd Sun Mar 21, 2010 9:57 pm

    Pierre Littbarski wrote:They still look well placed for CL qualification to me - maybe I'm reading the table wrong scratch

    Dunno...try again

    1 Bordeaux 28 10 3 2 28 9 7 2 4 18 14 23 56
    2 Montpellier 29 11 2 2 21 9 6 3 5 19 21 10 56
    3 Auxerre 29 10 2 3 19 12 6 5 3 11 12 6 55
    4 Marseille 28 8 3 2 23 12 7 5 3 27 18 20 53
    5 Lille 29 10 3 2 30 11 5 3 6 22 20 21 51
    6 Lyon 29 8 3 3 22 15 6 6 3 25 16 16 51

    I'm not a prediction specialist.
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    Post by Pierre Littbarski Sun Mar 21, 2010 10:01 pm

    L r dd wrote:
    Pierre Littbarski wrote:They still look well placed for CL qualification to me - maybe I'm reading the table wrong scratch

    Dunno...try again

    1 Bordeaux 28 10 3 2 28 9 7 2 4 18 14 23 56
    2 Montpellier 29 11 2 2 21 9 6 3 5 19 21 10 56
    3 Auxerre 29 10 2 3 19 12 6 5 3 11 12 6 55
    4 Marseille 28 8 3 2 23 12 7 5 3 27 18 20 53
    5 Lille 29 10 3 2 30 11 5 3 6 22 20 21 51
    6 Lyon 29 8 3 3 22 15 6 6 3 25 16 16 51

    I'm not a prediction specialist.

    No, its no good - I'm still seeing a table showing them 4 points of a CL spot with 9 games to play.
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    Post by L r dd Sun Mar 21, 2010 10:14 pm

    Isnt it just top 3 in france? so potential 5 should Marseille win their game in hand. Not exactly well placed when you cant string a run of wins together.
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    Post by The Easter Bunny Sun Mar 21, 2010 10:45 pm

    Puro wrote:Lyon playing possum and just playing the waiting game, ready to pounce at the exact right moment. Really looking forward to their matches against Real Madrid. Whoop

    cheers
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    Post by Pierre Littbarski Sat May 15, 2010 11:05 pm

    L r dd wrote:
    Pierre Littbarski wrote:They still look well placed for CL qualification to me - maybe I'm reading the table wrong scratch

    Dunno...try again

    1 Bordeaux 28 10 3 2 28 9 7 2 4 18 14 23 56
    2 Montpellier 29 11 2 2 21 9 6 3 5 19 21 10 56
    3 Auxerre 29 10 2 3 19 12 6 5 3 11 12 6 55
    4 Marseille 28 8 3 2 23 12 7 5 3 27 18 20 53
    5 Lille 29 10 3 2 30 11 5 3 6 22 20 21 51
    6 Lyon 29 8 3 3 22 15 6 6 3 25 16 16 51

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    Post by BoBo Vieri 32 Sat May 15, 2010 11:13 pm

    Pierre Littbarski wrote:
    L r dd wrote:
    Pierre Littbarski wrote:They still look well placed for CL qualification to me - maybe I'm reading the table wrong scratch

    Dunno...try again

    1 Bordeaux 28 10 3 2 28 9 7 2 4 18 14 23 56
    2 Montpellier 29 11 2 2 21 9 6 3 5 19 21 10 56
    3 Auxerre 29 10 2 3 19 12 6 5 3 11 12 6 55
    4 Marseille 28 8 3 2 23 12 7 5 3 27 18 20 53
    5 Lille 29 10 3 2 30 11 5 3 6 22 20 21 51
    6 Lyon 29 8 3 3 22 15 6 6 3 25 16 16 51

    I'm not a prediction specialist.

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    Post by robben Sun May 16, 2010 2:33 am

    L r dd wrote:Lyon have been the biggest French team for what 6 seasons now. But they've been replaced by Bordeaux as the best team. But this season i've been following them a bit(due to betting) They've looked pretty terrible and a few good results(not performances) aside v Pool in the CL they have been poor all seasons pretty much everywhere.

    As things stand they look like missing out on the CL next season. And with other teams getting cash and Lyon looking like needing a player overhaul i think it could be awhile before Lyon are back to being a knockout phase team. Their decline has come pretty quickly in the last two seasons.

    1 Bordeaux 23 8 2 1 20 4 7 1 4 18 14 20 48
    2 Montpellier 23 8 1 2 14 6 6 2 4 18 19 7 45
    3 Lille 23 8 3 1 25 8 4 2 5 18 15 20 41
    4 Lyon 23 6 2 3 18 14 5 5 2 20 14 10 40
    5 Marseille 22 6 2 2 17 9 5 4 3 21 16 13 39
    6 Monaco 23 8 2 2 19 9 4 1 6 11 18 3 39
    7 Auxerre 23 7 2 3 15 11 4 4 3 6 9 1 39
    8 Rennes 23 8 2 2 21 9 2 5 4 12 12 12 37
    9 Lorient 23 5 4 2 23 14 5 1 6 13 12 10 35


    I fancy Marseille to finish above them as well as the top two currently.

    I kicked those nerds out just like I booted your crappy team as well.
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    Post by Chocolate Thunder Sun May 16, 2010 4:37 am

    BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:
    Pierre Littbarski wrote:
    L r dd wrote:
    Pierre Littbarski wrote:They still look well placed for CL qualification to me - maybe I'm reading the table wrong scratch

    Dunno...try again

    1 Bordeaux 28 10 3 2 28 9 7 2 4 18 14 23 56
    2 Montpellier 29 11 2 2 21 9 6 3 5 19 21 10 56
    3 Auxerre 29 10 2 3 19 12 6 5 3 11 12 6 55
    4 Marseille 28 8 3 2 23 12 7 5 3 27 18 20 53
    5 Lille 29 10 3 2 30 11 5 3 6 22 20 21 51
    6 Lyon 29 8 3 3 22 15 6 6 3 25 16 16 51

    I'm not a prediction specialist.

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    Post by Chocolate Thunder Sun May 16, 2010 4:38 am

    WTF Montpellier is 2nd Shocked
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    Post by Kroos Sun May 16, 2010 8:39 am

    is bordoux in the euro league?
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    Post by A & K Sun May 16, 2010 1:39 pm

    The Real F'N Deal wrote:WTF Montpellier is 2nd Shocked

    No Montpellier is fourth.

    The final table is:

    1-Marseille
    2-Lyon
    3-Auxerre
    4-Lille
    5-Montpellier
    6-Bordeaux

    C.L Marseille and Lyon, C.L qualifying round
    Europa League: Lille, Montpellier and P.S.G
    Bordeaux will not play europe next year. I can see all the best players leave now (Gourcuff, Diara, etc)
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    Post by Romford Pele Sun May 16, 2010 4:22 pm

    Congrats Auxerre, nice to seem them back. I would've preferred Lille though.
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