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    Post by theflyingfrenchman Thu Aug 17, 2006 1:51 pm

    http://www.footmercato.net/lyon-active-la-piste-simao_article8158.html

    Apparently Lyon will make a move for Siamo if Govou leaves!!! That would be one hell of a buy I reckon.
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    Post by Hardrada Thu Aug 17, 2006 2:01 pm

    Better than Camoranesi, who I heard they were going for !
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    Post by theflyingfrenchman Thu Aug 17, 2006 2:05 pm

    Hardrada wrote:Better than Camoranesi, who I heard they were going for !

    Damn straight. Lyon will get money from Diarra's sale soon as well, and I expect them to move for Makoun.
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    Post by Luso Thu Aug 17, 2006 5:46 pm

    I doubt it'll happen. Simão wants a 'big' team. Lyon's history doesn't exactly match up to Benfica's and despite their current form, they're still from the French league.

    He want's one of the top 3 leauges, with a preference for England IMO.
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    Post by pauloduarte Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:29 pm

    Luso 'Sporting' wrote:I doubt it'll happen. Simão wants a 'big' team. Lyon's history doesn't exactly match up to Benfica's and despite their current form, they're still from the French league.

    He want's one of the top 3 leauges, with a preference for England IMO.

    That's why the rumour is Arsenal. Press conference tonight at 6:30 (I think) to tell everyone if he is staying and playing in the Champs league this week or being sold to a mistery English club that it is thought to be Arsenal.

    I think Arsenal would suit Simao like a hand to a glove!!!
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    Post by Parks lives Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:30 pm

    pauloduarte wrote:
    Luso 'Sporting' wrote:I doubt it'll happen. Simão wants a 'big' team. Lyon's history doesn't exactly match up to Benfica's and despite their current form, they're still from the French league.

    He want's one of the top 3 leauges, with a preference for England IMO.

    That's why the rumour is Arsenal. Press conference tonight at 6:30 (I think) to tell everyone if he is staying and playing in the Champs league this week or being sold to a mistery English club that it is thought to be Arsenal.

    I think Arsenal would suit Simao like a hand to a glove!!!

    Could be a replacement for Reyes.
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    Post by pauloduarte Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:32 pm

    @ Sir Park:

    As well as Pires!
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    Post by Parks lives Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:33 pm

    Yep.

    Rosicky and Simao in.

    Pires and Reyes out.

    Not bad business.
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:35 pm

    i´d agree with that parky, v good business imho
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    Post by Tweesus Fri Aug 18, 2006 1:09 pm

    Doubtful.

    We'd have probably heard something about it by now.
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Fri Aug 18, 2006 1:13 pm

    tweeds your transfers are always amongst the most secretive
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    Post by Tweesus Fri Aug 18, 2006 1:16 pm

    True....

    But like I said, this would be dependant on Reyes leaving
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    Post by Luso Fri Aug 18, 2006 7:47 pm

    Reyes can play more of the striker role if need be though, and Simão doesn't give you that. However, Reyes seems to want out while Simão would relish the chance to join an 'Arsenal'.

    Depending on the amount you could get for Reyes I guess it could be good business; Benfica won't let Simão leave for cheap.
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    Post by doninha Sat Aug 19, 2006 9:24 am

    ahahahhahaha,

    IT WAS PORTSMOUTH!!!!!!!

    Come on, Benfica is in big trouble now, and Simão must be furious. He had (for the 2nd time...) the chance of his life with Liverpool. Now, its over. Only 2nd line teams want him, and are not willing to pay more than 15 million EUR.

    Simão is not a world class player (and most clubs know it), but only a very usefull winger for a big team - so not enough to get in troubles and headaches negotiating with Benfica and Simão like he is Ronaldinho Gaúcho.

    Better players, with better prices around, and Simão stays in Benfica.....
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    Post by Tweesus Sat Aug 19, 2006 1:50 pm

    Portsmouth though they could get him?! Laugh
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    Post by Luso Sat Aug 19, 2006 4:25 pm

    They put up the right kind of cash, offered him 20m Euros...not sure how many seasons. Simão didn't go for it due to actually wanting to win something with his next club.

    Must admit I thought it was quite funny aswell that his suitors were Portsmouth. Benfica and Simão himself like to make him out to be larger than life...like Doninha said, he's a good winger, not a world beater. They haven't handled this situation very well, and now things are looking thin.
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    Post by Super Progress Sat Aug 19, 2006 5:33 pm

    i hope he stays because he doesnt deserve to get anything better.he had a great chance to play for a big club like valencia and he went for money.now he will stay with what every he makes now.
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    Post by theflyingfrenchman Sat Aug 19, 2006 8:08 pm

    Diarra having been sold, Lyon are rumoured to be going for French international and ex-Liverpool player Alou Diarra.
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    Post by Luso Sun Aug 20, 2006 10:28 pm

    supermadrid(zizou legend) wrote:i hope he stays because he doesnt deserve to get anything better.he had a great chance to play for a big club like valencia and he went for money.now he will stay with what every he makes now.

    He makes good money now, hence the reason he didn't accept the transefer; it simply wouldn't have been much of an increase in pay and thus not worth the move.
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    Post by lampiao007 Sun Aug 20, 2006 11:00 pm

    doninha wrote:ahahahhahaha,

    IT WAS PORTSMOUTH!!!!!!!

    Come on, Benfica is in big trouble nowWhy?, and Simão must be furiousAgain, why? He decided not to go, and Benfica honoured the word given to the player.His decision, not the clubs fault. He had (for the 2nd time...) the chance of his life with Liverpool. Now, its over. Only 2nd line teams want him, and are not willing to pay more than 15 million EUR.

    Simão is not a world class player (and most clubs know it), but only a very useful winger for a big team - so not enough to get in troubles and headaches negotiating with Benfica and Simão like he is Ronaldinho Gaúcho.

    Better players, with better prices around, and Simão stays in Benfica.....

    You lot make me laugh. If he was still a Sporting player, he would be "the shisnitz", but because he his at Benfica, nobody wants him...Portsmouth,Valencia and Liverpool seemed to disagree, but hey what do they know.....
    But I'm glad he stays at Benfica Wink

    supermadrid(zizou legend) wrote:
    i hope he stays because he doesnt deserve to get anything better.he had a great chance to play for a big club like valencia and he went for money.now he will stay with what every he makes now.

    Sporting,Benfica & Porto are all bigger clubs than Valencia. Valencia at the moment has more money, but still lacking the stature of the 3 above mentioned Wink

    Regarding Portsmouth being the "mysterious" club offering £20M, why should people laugh?
    It speaks worlds when a club that almost got relegated last season has £20M to splash like that.
    If Simao has just greedy, like supermadrid mentions, he could just take the money (that would not be a few pence) and said yes.
    But some people are a bit narrow....
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    Post by Luso Sun Aug 20, 2006 11:13 pm

    Course he'd have to play for Portsmouth...
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    Post by lampiao007 Sun Aug 20, 2006 11:25 pm

    Some players come to the EPL, and have a golden retirement. If you are on some good money a month, does it matter what you do?

    I'm sure Rochemback given the choice between Sporting and Middlesbrough, would choose Middlesbrough, even if the pay was the same......and then again, maybe not.....Smile
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    Post by Luso Sun Aug 20, 2006 11:39 pm

    Retirement? Does it seem to you that Simão is at all interested in retireing any time soon? Don't think so...so not sure what that has to do with his situation.

    Portsmouth would be paying Simão more than what he makes now, he didn't go because, again, it's Portsmouth.

    Roca, what about him? He was on loan and was sold by Barça to Boro, not sure what Sporting could've done about that.
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    Post by lampiao007 Mon Aug 21, 2006 7:18 am

    lampiao007 wrote:Some players come to the EPL, and have a golden retirement. If you are on some good money a month, does it matter what you do?

    I'm sure Rochemback given the choice between Sporting and Middlesbrough, would choose Middlesbrough, even if the pay was the same......and then again, maybe not.....Smile

    I think you should reread my comment, and then post an answer.
    Where in there did I mention Simao and retirement on the same sentence?
    I put the words some players.

    Do the same again in regards of Rochemback, and pay attention to the part of even if the pay was the same
    And I'm sure if the player was interested in staying at Sporting, maybe is wish could have helped. Unfortenately clubs in Portugal can not pay the same wages that EPL clubs do.
    Or do you think M Fernandes came to Pompey for the love of the game only? Wink
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    Post by Luso Mon Aug 21, 2006 9:31 pm

    Oh I read your comment, perhaps you should think them through a little better before posting them...

    Are you trying to tell me something I don't already know? Is it supposed to be a big surprise to me that EPL teams can pay more?

    How in any way is Simão's situation similar to those who seek a nice 'retirement' club in England? It's not, so just what are you getting at?

    All I can possibly get out of what you're saying is that Simão must like Benfica to have not accepted making much more at Porstmouth... and again I state, no surprise as he'd have to actually play for them and not just pick up his paycheck.

    Still don't know why you keep mentioning Roca, he wasn't even our player. Perhaps if you had lent Sporting the cash needed to buy him he could've stayed, as is we didn't have the flow necessary and he left. End of.
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    Post by lampiao007 Mon Aug 21, 2006 11:21 pm

    Luso 'Sporting' wrote:Oh I read your comment, perhaps you should think them through a little better before posting them...Yes, seeing that your understanding is selective, I will make an effort just for you Rolling Eyes

    Are you trying to tell me something I don't already know? Is it supposed to be a big surprise to me that EPL teams can pay more? You still didn't get it did you? Forward rewind..

    How in any way is Simão's situation similar to those who seek a nice 'retirement' club in England? It's not, so just what are you getting at?Where did I mention Simao on the post you are criticising? And I should think them through a little before posting....rightttttt, what about reading comprehension.....saves time, and helps in forums

    All I can possibly get out of what you're saying is that Simão must like Benfica to have not accepted making much more at Porstmouth... and again I state, no surprise as he'd have to actually play for them and not just pick up his paycheck.Your words, not mine. And I doubt that he has any lost love for Benfica. But he could do much worse. Ence, maybe, just maybe, refusing Pompey.....

    Still don't know why you keep mentioning Roca, he wasn't even our player. Perhaps if you had lent Sporting the cash needed to buy him he could've stayed, as is we didn't have the flow necessary and he left. End of.
    Funny, they had enough money to buy 3 players, send one back, hardly use the other, but not the £1M that Rochemback cost Boro. I'll have a word with LFV, regarding the cash loan. You may then arrange a better ploughing field for your official games Very Happy
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    Post by Luso Tue Aug 22, 2006 12:22 am

    Wow, it took a while, but we've finally got there. Yes, 'Pompey' would be worse than Benfica in everything but financial terms...

    That's why I said 'course, he'd have to play for Porstmouth', does that sound like a good thing to you!?!? It's what is called a 'drawback'. A negative aspect if you will.

    You must know however, it's not my comprehension that is in question here, it's your reasoning, or lack there of. I honestly don't know what you've been trying to say. You write things and don't explain them when questioned. The thread is about Simão to begin with, unless you're comparing something to his situation, what the hell are you trying to say about retirement?

    (Again, although I'm still not sure why you keep mentioning a player that has nothing to do with Simão or his particualare situation, you might just like to find out just what kind of wages Roca is on at Boro...)

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