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    Post by bluenine Fri Apr 16, 2010 1:35 pm

    From Serie A, I would nominate Balotelli, Pato, & Jovetic... these 3 could potentially reach those hieghts. Pastore & Sanchez also look promising.
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    Post by Isco Benny Fri Apr 16, 2010 1:48 pm

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    Post by L r dd Fri Apr 16, 2010 1:55 pm

    Hmmm from the prem probably a tie between Wilshere and Macheda...Rose has put his name in the hat though.
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    Post by Chocolate Thunder Fri Apr 16, 2010 2:01 pm

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    Post by Kimbo Fri Apr 16, 2010 2:03 pm

    Fucking hell lerd. Rose only scored 1 goal, he was unimpressive in the championship. Macheda needs to do more aswell.


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    Post by L r dd Fri Apr 16, 2010 2:07 pm

    I agree with you on all counts but end of the day who else is there?
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Fri Apr 16, 2010 2:19 pm

    L r dd wrote:I agree with you on all counts but end of the day who else is there?

    Carroll & Ranger obviously.. how the fuck could you forget them?!
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    Post by Kimbo Fri Apr 16, 2010 2:22 pm

    The Santa Stalker™️ wrote:
    L r dd wrote:I agree with you on all counts but end of the day who else is there?

    Carroll & Ranger obviously.. how the fuck could you forget them?!

    I didn't say that, although both were more impressive than Rose in the championship.
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    Post by Kroos Fri Apr 16, 2010 2:46 pm

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    Post by Kimbo Fri Apr 16, 2010 2:48 pm

    Just to clarify, Carroll had an awesome 2nd half of the season, but i was a critic before that so the jury is still out, Ranger has obvious talent but is in the same boat as Macheda, he's very young and could probably do with being loaned out next season. I'm so unreasonable. <Ale>
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    Post by Super Progress Fri Apr 16, 2010 2:53 pm

    L r dd wrote:I agree with you on all counts but end of the day who else is there?
    I have often wondered in the last couple of years but where is the English talent? What players are looking promising? England have gotten some decent results recently at youth level but even when they are winning I always get the sense that there is not standout in the teams.

    I know the English FA tried to copy the french model but didn't they stop halfway through or something?

    Wilshire is one that I can remember.
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Fri Apr 16, 2010 3:01 pm

    Nani?
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    Post by Kroos Fri Apr 16, 2010 3:04 pm

    buy aion gold wrote:Nani?

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    Post by Tweesus Fri Apr 16, 2010 3:12 pm

    Gareth Bale. Is he attacking? Ramsey is pretty awesome too when he isn't having his leg broken. Miraslav Stoch has been doing well for Twente.
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Fri Apr 16, 2010 3:20 pm

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    Post by L r dd Fri Apr 16, 2010 3:27 pm

    Super De La Red wrote:
    L r dd wrote:I agree with you on all counts but end of the day who else is there?
    I have often wondered in the last couple of years but where is the English talent? What players are looking promising? England have gotten some decent results recently at youth level but even when they are winning I always get the sense that there is not standout in the teams.

    I know the English FA tried to copy the french model but didn't they stop halfway through or something?

    Wilshire is one that I can remember.

    The bracket currenly for attacking players is pretty bare. But 21-24 there's a lot of talent. Adam Johnson, Milner, Young, Agbonlahor, Lennon, Hart, Walcott etc etc. So i don't think there's a need to worry just yet.
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    Post by debaser Fri Apr 16, 2010 3:56 pm

    What have Spurs done with John Bostock by the way? Wasn't he supposed to be up-and-coming..

    People were talking about Moses too. Haven't seen him for Wigan yet.
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    Post by Super Progress Fri Apr 16, 2010 3:59 pm

    L r dd wrote:
    Super De La Red wrote:
    L r dd wrote:I agree with you on all counts but end of the day who else is there?
    I have often wondered in the last couple of years but where is the English talent? What players are looking promising? England have gotten some decent results recently at youth level but even when they are winning I always get the sense that there is not standout in the teams.

    I know the English FA tried to copy the french model but didn't they stop halfway through or something?

    Wilshire is one that I can remember.

    The bracket currenly for attacking players is pretty bare. But 21-24 there's a lot of talent. Adam Johnson, Milner, Young, Agbonlahor, Lennon, Hart, Walcott etc etc. So i don't think there's a need to worry just yet.
    But I was thinking more U-21 though. Those players though are quite good but will they be at the level of Rooney/Joe Cole/Gerrard/Lampard though?

    Lennon of that group is the best as I see it while Milner strikes as being somebody who could be very useful but never really a starter for a big side. I don't know what to make of Young. I don't think he has progressed that much but it might come. Allthough those players are good because for a moment I couldn't think of any big talents coming through.
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    Post by Kimbo Fri Apr 16, 2010 4:04 pm

    Super De La Red wrote:
    L r dd wrote:
    Super De La Red wrote:
    L r dd wrote:I agree with you on all counts but end of the day who else is there?
    I have often wondered in the last couple of years but where is the English talent? What players are looking promising? England have gotten some decent results recently at youth level but even when they are winning I always get the sense that there is not standout in the teams.

    I know the English FA tried to copy the french model but didn't they stop halfway through or something?

    Wilshire is one that I can remember.

    The bracket currenly for attacking players is pretty bare. But 21-24 there's a lot of talent. Adam Johnson, Milner, Young, Agbonlahor, Lennon, Hart, Walcott etc etc. So i don't think there's a need to worry just yet.
    But I was thinking more U-21 though. Those players though are quite good but will they be at the level of Rooney/Joe Cole/Gerrard/Lampard though?

    Lennon of that group is the best as I see it while Milner strikes as being somebody who could be very useful but never really a starter for a big side. I don't know what to make of Young. I don't think he has progressed that much but it might come. Allthough those players are good because for a moment I couldn't think of any big talents coming through.

    Apart from Rooney none of those were really child stars. There is no wonderkid at the moment, but i could list a load of players that could develop into very good players.
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    Post by Super Progress Fri Apr 16, 2010 4:11 pm

    Kimbo wrote:
    Super De La Red wrote:
    L r dd wrote:
    Super De La Red wrote:
    L r dd wrote:I agree with you on all counts but end of the day who else is there?
    I have often wondered in the last couple of years but where is the English talent? What players are looking promising? England have gotten some decent results recently at youth level but even when they are winning I always get the sense that there is not standout in the teams.

    I know the English FA tried to copy the french model but didn't they stop halfway through or something?

    Wilshire is one that I can remember.

    The bracket currenly for attacking players is pretty bare. But 21-24 there's a lot of talent. Adam Johnson, Milner, Young, Agbonlahor, Lennon, Hart, Walcott etc etc. So i don't think there's a need to worry just yet.
    But I was thinking more U-21 though. Those players though are quite good but will they be at the level of Rooney/Joe Cole/Gerrard/Lampard though?

    Lennon of that group is the best as I see it while Milner strikes as being somebody who could be very useful but never really a starter for a big side. I don't know what to make of Young. I don't think he has progressed that much but it might come. Allthough those players are good because for a moment I couldn't think of any big talents coming through.

    Apart from Rooney none of those were really child stars. There is no wonderkid at the moment, but i could list a load of players that could develop into very good players.
    Lampard I will give you but Gerrard was pretty hyped in his younger years wasn't he? And Joe Cole was a good talent as well. It just took longer to make an impact. What players are you thinking of? Any defenders because in the offensive area I think England will be ok but after seeing how Anton Ferdinand/Dawson didn't really develop I think the biggest problems might be in defence.
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    Post by Tweesus Fri Apr 16, 2010 4:16 pm

    Milner's made massive steps this season and I could definately see him being a starter for a big four side.
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    Post by Kimbo Fri Apr 16, 2010 4:29 pm

    I think Miles Addison is a quality player, he has had some bad injury problems though which happens too much with our young players, it probably explains why he's still in the championship. Look at Giles Barnes and Johnson, both were supposed to be the next Gerrard, one is closer to retiring from injury and the other has turned into a fat alcoholic, although goater insists he has just had a hamstring strain for the past 2 years.

    Players that could become something.

    Addison(CB/DM)
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    Ranger(ST)
    Carroll(ST)
    Sturridge(ST) - if he leaves Chelsea
    Wiltshere(AM)
    Gosling(CM)
    Forster(GK)
    Richards(CB/RB)

    Defenders tend to develop later so it's difficult to look for U21s. There's plenty around 22-24 like Wheater, Taylor, Mancienne, Shawcross.
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    Post by L r dd Fri Apr 16, 2010 4:31 pm

    Super De La Red wrote:
    L r dd wrote:
    Super De La Red wrote:
    L r dd wrote:I agree with you on all counts but end of the day who else is there?
    I have often wondered in the last couple of years but where is the English talent? What players are looking promising? England have gotten some decent results recently at youth level but even when they are winning I always get the sense that there is not standout in the teams.

    I know the English FA tried to copy the french model but didn't they stop halfway through or something?

    Wilshire is one that I can remember.

    The bracket currenly for attacking players is pretty bare. But 21-24 there's a lot of talent. Adam Johnson, Milner, Young, Agbonlahor, Lennon, Hart, Walcott etc etc. So i don't think there's a need to worry just yet.
    But I was thinking more U-21 though. Those players though are quite good but will they be at the level of Rooney/Joe Cole/Gerrard/Lampard though?

    Lennon of that group is the best as I see it while Milner strikes as being somebody who could be very useful but never really a starter for a big side. I don't know what to make of Young. I don't think he has progressed that much but it might come. Allthough those players are good because for a moment I couldn't think of any big talents coming through.

    They could be we'll see, Rooney himself is just 24 though. Rodwell, Sturridge also a few names about. Undoubtably some will improve with time and some wont and some may decline which ones i don't know.
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    Post by EM Seleção e Selecção Fri Apr 16, 2010 4:50 pm

    Eden Hazard(Best U21 in Europe)
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    Post by debaser Fri Apr 16, 2010 5:34 pm

    Tweesus wrote:Milner's made massive steps this season and I could definately see him being a starter for a big four side.

    The rumours are starting of Alex Ferguson sniffing round this summer. I've said before I think Ferguson would love Milner now, he could play him anywhere in midfield & he's got the sort of work ethic Ferguson loves, to go with the talent..whether they'll have the money is the question.
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    Post by EM Seleção e Selecção Fri Apr 16, 2010 5:36 pm

    debaser wrote:
    Tweesus wrote:Milner's made massive steps this season and I could definately see him being a starter for a big four side.

    The rumours are starting of Alex Ferguson sniffing round this summer. I've said before I think Ferguson would love Milner now, he could play him anywhere in midfield & he's got the sort of work ethic Ferguson loves, to go with the talent..whether they'll have the money is the question.
    What's Milner's price now?
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    Post by L r dd Fri Apr 16, 2010 5:39 pm

    If we sign Milner i'll write a letter of disgust to the Glazers.
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    Post by debaser Fri Apr 16, 2010 5:40 pm

    EM La Liga wrote:
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    Tweesus wrote:Milner's made massive steps this season and I could definately see him being a starter for a big four side.

    The rumours are starting of Alex Ferguson sniffing round this summer. I've said before I think Ferguson would love Milner now, he could play him anywhere in midfield & he's got the sort of work ethic Ferguson loves, to go with the talent..whether they'll have the money is the question.
    What's Milner's price now?

    Dunno. We paid £12m, he's improved and established self in England squad since then, so I think you'd be talking £20m+ before Villa would think about selling.
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    Post by debaser Fri Apr 16, 2010 5:41 pm

    L r dd wrote:If we sign Milner i'll write a letter of disgust to the Glazers.

    Why not to Alex Ferguson? They ain't exactly gonna go sign him behind his back.
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    Post by L r dd Fri Apr 16, 2010 5:49 pm

    Well Milner may have improved so if we took 4 months to offer 25 mill for Tevez i doubt we're gonna pay that for someone of his quality. Fergie Glazers whoever i can print 3-4 copies and go wild.

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