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    Post by Jaime Tue Jun 01, 2010 3:51 pm

    Now that it is June, I thought maybe this year we could try to consolidate all the posts for the new Spanish league season into one thread rather than creating a separate thread for each jornada. There always seems to be confusion with mid-week news. Does it go in the previous weeks thread or the current thread, etc.

    Of course all the transfer news can go in the 'mercado' thread. But everything else can go here: preseason friendlies, info on tactics, squads, la liga loca and other commentary and of course once the season starts all of the banter, windups, and analysis of Jornada 1 through 38. Ale

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    Post by Guest Tue Jun 01, 2010 4:02 pm

    Did Betis miss out on promotion?.
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    Post by Jaime Tue Jun 01, 2010 4:04 pm

    Not yet, I just filled in my guesses. La Real and Levante are all but sure to go up. The last place is for Hercules, Betis, or Cartagena.
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    Post by Luis Tue Jun 01, 2010 4:41 pm

    Mourinho vs Barca, I can't wait Biggrin
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    Post by Chocolate Thunder Tue Jun 01, 2010 4:58 pm

    Jaime wrote:Now that it is June, I thought maybe this year we could try to consolidate all the posts for the new Spanish league season into one thread rather than creating a separate thread for each jornada. There always seems to be confusion with mid-week news. Does it go in the previous weeks thread or the current thread, etc.

    Of course all the transfer news can go in the 'mercado' thread. But everything else can go here: preseason friendlies, info on tactics, squads, la liga loca and other commentary and of course once the season starts all of the banter, windups, and analysis of Jornada 1 through 38. Ale

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    Good move ok

    What's the story with Betis and promotion?
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    Post by Jaime Tue Jun 01, 2010 5:12 pm

    The Real F'N Deal wrote:Good move ok

    What's the story with Betis and promotion?

    Three matches to go and here is the table:

    1 R. Sociedad 68
    2 Levante 68
    3 Hércules 64
    4 Betis 64
    5 Cartagena 64

    They have the advantage of the fact that Hercules and Cartagena play each other at the weekend so one or both will drop points. Also in the last week of the season they have Levante, who could already be promoted, at home. But if Hercules can win this week, I think they will go up.
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    Post by Pierre Littbarski Tue Jun 01, 2010 6:56 pm

    Jaime wrote:
    The Real F'N Deal wrote:Good move ok

    What's the story with Betis and promotion?

    Three matches to go and here is the table:

    1 R. Sociedad 68
    2 Levante 68
    3 Hércules 64
    4 Betis 64
    5 Cartagena 64

    They have the advantage of the fact that Hercules and Cartagena play each other at the weekend so one or both will drop points. Also in the last week of the season they have Levante, who could already be promoted, at home. But if Hercules can win this week, I think they will go up.

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    Post by fcb Tue Jun 01, 2010 7:31 pm

    Yeah good idea to have just one thread Ale
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    Post by Jaime Wed Jun 02, 2010 3:53 pm

    A la pregunta "¿Preferiría vender al Kun Agüero al Barça o a un club extranjero?", Cerezo no dudó en responder: "El Barcelona es un club extranjero".

    lol!
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    Post by Super Progress Wed Jun 02, 2010 4:31 pm

    Laugh
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    Post by Cristiano Wed Jun 02, 2010 5:24 pm

    How long till Kas says Real Madrid are favourates. Wink
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    Post by Jaime Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:36 pm

    Rosell preparing to end former friend Laporta's reign at Barca

    In his seven years as the King of Cataluyna, Joan Laporta has been very good for Barcelona.

    During his spell as president, Joan has moved on from the hindrance of having a girl’s name by guiding the team to four la Liga titles, two Champions League victories and appointing the highly inexperienced Pep Guardiola as his coach - a genuinely inspirational move.

    But Barcelona has also been very good for Joan Laporta.

    (Ab)using one of the most influential and high profile positions in Spain to the full. The Barça boss has been a busy beaver since 2003 by launching a political career, repeatedly attacking the ‘media cavern’, droning on about an oppression-free Catalunya and complaining about being spied upon whilst one of his underlings did it to others.

    Then there was the removal of his trousers in a temper tantrum at an airport, the arguing with fans in the street and putting a fair bit of business in the direction of his law company - including the attempted sale of Mallorca Football Club - by establishing a dubious relationship between Barcelona and the human-rights abusing country of Uzbekistan.

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    So it’s no wonder that Laporta is very desperate indeed to cling to power by winning the Barcelona presidential elections to be held on June 13th.

    Although Joan is unable to stand himself due to a restriction on term limits, the Barça bigwig has been heavily promoting the interests of the ‘continuity candidate’ and current board member, Jaume Ferrer.

    Technically, Laporta is supposed to be a neutral observer in the presidential poll but being unable to keep his gob shut for more than seven seconds at a time, sees the Barça boss being extraordinarily active in promoting the good name of his puppet - sorry - friend and respected colleague, Sooty. Sorry, Ferrer.

    And it’s no wonder as Laporta is sensing that he is about to be shut out of the giant Catalan cookie jar that is Barcelona football club. The strong favourite in the upcoming elections is his former best buddy, Sandro Rosell - or Alexandre, as a terse Laporta now calls him.

    “I had a good relationship with him, but he disappointed me in the end.”

    As so often seems to happen with Laporta, the pair are now sworn enemies, ever since his former Sporting VP resigned in 2005 accusing his club president of turning into a certifiable, power-crazed dictator.

    And that’s why the pair have been merrily exchanging entertaining insults and legal threats at each through the media in their desperate attempts to gain control of the Camp Nou in several months campaigning.

    Rosell’s main gripes against Laporta are that the current president has lead the club into too much debt - €629 million is the claim if you throw in the David Villa fee - has alienated Barça fans with his constant banging on about Cataluyna and has dragged the club’s reputation through the mud by sending players to Uzbekistan as part of a cultural and sporting exchange.

    “This country is not just corrupt, it’s worse than that, and it’s a contradiction to do business with them and wear UNICEF on the shirt” blasted Rosell.

    In return, Laporta has accused his former partner of demagoguery, immaturity, wanting to sell Xavi and Carles Puyol during his previous spell at the club and of having his own dodgy business dealings.

    “[Rosell] should explain why a company where he possesses 99% of the shares is involved in a corruption case” - an allegation that appeared on the blog of a supporter of another candidate, Marc Ingla, in relation to an enterprise reportedly owned by Rosell in Brazil.

    No-one really knows what Jaume Ferrer thinks. The Barça VP doesn’t appear to have an opinion of his own. Indeed, at a recent campaign event it was Laporta who hogged the limelight with a 20 minute speech touching on all his favourite topics: Joan Laporta, Cataluyna, Joan Laporta, Cataluyna, Joan Laporta and Cataluyna. And Joan Laporta. Laughing

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    However, no-one is ever going to find out what Ferrer thinks as it is Rosell who is going to win the election quite comfortably. An early indication of his landslide victory came on Tuesday when supporting signatures were delivered that allow candidates to formerly participate in the poll.

    Ferrer was in third place with 4,442 signatures behind another former board member who felt out with Laporta, Marca Ingla, who gathered 4,744. The former Nike executive, Sandro Rosell, dumped 13,618 petitions at the Camp Nou, more than all the other candidates combined.

    Rosell’s victory won’t particularly be a vote in favour of his policies, as such topics have never really entered the debate. The level of conversation in regards to Barça’s future has rarely risen above that of a group of brattish five-year-olds squabbling over a toy train.

    It will instead be a vote against Joan Laporta, who has managed to squander the enormous advantage of presiding over arguably Barça's greatest period thanks to the perception that he has been taking more from the club than he’s been putting in.

    And Barcelona supporters know that a vote for Ferrer is a vote for eight more years of Laporta, a man they appear to have had quite enough of.

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    Post by Jaime Fri Jun 04, 2010 3:27 am

    "Necesitamos dinero y podemos vender más"

    Manuel Llorente comunicó ayer al Consejo la medida que había tomado 24 horas antes: amortizar el puesto de director deportivo, con el consiguiente despido de Fernando Gómez. "Para mí, es difícil tomar estas decisiones, pero estoy para eso. Es cierto que también nos podemos equivocar, pero esto lo estamos haciendo a conciencia porque pensamos que es lo mejor para la sociedad. Sería mejor estar tranquilo, sentarme junto a la puerta de las oficinas, tomarme un café y hablar con los periodistas, sin tomar decisiones, esperando que vengan otros y las tomen por ti. Pero yo no soy así, me gusta afrontar los problemas y buscar las soluciones", afirmó Llorente una vez concluida la reunión del Consejo che.

    Llorente recalcó que, en su decisión de prescindir de Fernando, no hay un trasfondo personal, sólo se remite a un motivo: "No se puede decir que nuestra situación económica sea mala malísima, pero sí que necesita atención, cuidado y soluciones. Éstas a veces son impopulares y desagradables, pero se tienen que tomar". Sobre si esas decisiones se van a traducir en ventas de cracks, Llorente subrayó: "Necesitamos dinero para satisfacer deudas y a nuestros acreedores. Como dije el día que anunciamos la venta de Villa, no descartamos la salida de ningún jugador". Pero el presidente matizó: "No tenemos ofertas ni por Silva ni por Mata. Y no estamos negociando ninguna salida".

    http://www.as.com/futbol/articulo/necesitamos-dinero-podemos-vender/dasftb/20100604dasdaiftb_45/Tes

    Grim. So no offers currently for Silva or Mata but clearly they will be listening to anything that comes in. Yikes
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    Post by Jaime Fri Jun 04, 2010 1:08 pm

    Zaragoza have confirmed Jose Aurelio Gay as their manager for next season. I believe that just leaves Mallorca as the only vacancy. I wonder if Manzano will end up back there after all?

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    Real Madrid - Jose Mourinho
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    Athletic - Joaquin Caparros
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    Deportivo - Miguel Angel Lotina
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    Almeria - Juan Manuel Lillo
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    Post by Jaime Sun Jun 06, 2010 7:43 pm

    Real Sociedad won yesterday so they just need one point from the last two games to ensure promotion but if Cartagena-Hercules ends as a draw today they are up already, I think.

    Betis got a big victory yesterday as well. Levante are just about to lose so (again) depending on the result of Cartagena-Hercules it could all be very very close for the last two promotion spots.

    1. Real Sociedad 71
    2. Levante 68
    3. Betis 67
    4. Hercules 64
    5. Cartagena 64
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    Post by Barrilete Sun Jun 06, 2010 11:38 pm

    Is badajoz playing in segunda???
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    Post by Jaime Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:45 am

    Barrilete wrote:Is badajoz playing in segunda???

    Segunda B I think.
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    Post by Jaime Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:46 am

    Cartagena 0-0 Hercules

    1. Real Sociedad 71
    2. Levante 68
    3. Betis 67
    4. Hercules 65
    5. Cartagena 65
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    Post by Jaime Tue Jun 15, 2010 2:55 pm

    As mentioned in the second division thread, Real Sociedad and Levante have secured promotion to the top flight last weekend. Hercules leapfrogged Betis in the table after beating Rayo Vallecano at home and Betis could only managed a draw away to Salamanca.

    1 R. Sociedad 74
    2 Levante 71

    3 Hércules 68
    4 Betis 68
    5 Cartagena 65

    On the last day of the season Hercules play away to relegation battlers Real Union whilst Betis are home to already promoted Betis. Cartagena are out of it now. I think even if they win and both Hercules and Betis lose they do not win either of the goal averages with their opponents.
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    Post by Jaime Tue Jun 15, 2010 2:55 pm

    Fernando Sanz comunica al CSD la venta del Málaga

    Fernando Sanz, actual presidente del Málaga, ha visitado hoy el Consejo Superior de Deportes (CSD) para dar a conocer la venta del club al jeque quatarí Abdullah bin Nasser Al-Thani, como ya informó el Diario As.

    Esto es un requisito imprescindible porque el CSD debe conocer cualquier cambio en el accionariado. Además, el jeque tiene el 5% de la propiedad de otro club; el 'Al Rayyan', el equipo más importante de Qatar, del que es patrocinador y miembro de honor.

    Ayer mismo, Abdullah bin Nasser dijo que quería que el Málaga jugara en Europa en 2012.

    Esta misma tarde el Málaga va a celebrar un Consejo de Administración en el que Fernando Sanz dará a conocer el estado de las negociaciones.

    http://www.as.com/futbol/articulo/fernando-sanz-comunica-csd-venta/dasftb/20100614dasdasftb_35/Tes

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    Post by Jaime Sun Jun 20, 2010 1:23 am

    Hercules wins 0-2 away to Real Union making them the third and final team to win promotion. Betis also won, 4-0 at home to Levante but it will be Hercules that return to primera, 13 years after their last stint in the top flight.
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    Post by Calidad Sun Jun 20, 2010 5:46 pm

    Would have prefered Betis to get promoted. They have a huge fan base, and some decent players who will now all probably leave.
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    Post by Jaime Tue Jun 22, 2010 4:07 am

    La Primera división española de fútbol 2010-11 iniciará el 29 de agosto, para terminar el 22 de mayo, estando fijadas tres jornadas entre semana, según ha acordado esta tarde la junta de la máxima categoría de la Liga de Fútbol Profesional. Las tres jornadas entre semana serán la número 4 (22 de septiembre 2010), la número 26 (2 de marzo 2011) y la número 36 (11 de mayo 2011).

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    Post by stinger Tue Jun 29, 2010 6:33 pm

    Real Madrid and Barcelona could be forced out of La Liga if they refuse to negotiate a fairer distribution of money from television rights, Sevilla president Jose Maria del Nido has said.
    Spain's top two divisions started a series of meetings this month to discuss the possibility of creating a separate first division similar to the English Premier League, but Del Nido said a number of clubs were at odds with Real and Barca.
    "The clubs have to impose on the big two the conditions in play and if they don't accept them, no problem, we will have a league of 18 teams and they will have a magnificent one of two," Del Nido was quoted as saying on the club website (www.sevillafc.es).
    "This is a cake in which everyone participates and our decision will be radical.
    "It is our responsibility to make sure it (the league) doesn't become a fight between only two teams."
    Barca pipped Real to the La Liga title last month, both breaking the previous points record for a season with third-placed Valencia a distant 25 points behind Real.
    One of the main bones of contention between the top two and the rest is the distribution of television money.
    In Spain, clubs negotiate deals with TV companies individually, unlike the Premier League, the German Bundesliga and France's Ligue 1, where collective deals are struck and revenue shared out.
    Real and Barca, two of the world's richest clubs, rake in half the available cash with deals worth about 150 million euros a season.
    They have repeatedly said they are unwilling to accept a system of collective bargaining, arguing that it would hurt their competitiveness in European competition.
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    Post by Six Tue Jun 29, 2010 7:24 pm

    cheers







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    Post by flo23perez Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:21 am

    Does anyone know when they'll do the draw to determine the 2010-11 fixtures?
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    Post by Super Progress Wed Jun 30, 2010 1:44 pm

    stinger wrote:
    Real Madrid and Barcelona could be forced out of La Liga if they refuse to negotiate a fairer distribution of money from television rights, Sevilla president Jose Maria del Nido has said.
    Spain's top two divisions started a series of meetings this month to discuss the possibility of creating a separate first division similar to the English Premier League, but Del Nido said a number of clubs were at odds with Real and Barca.
    "The clubs have to impose on the big two the conditions in play and if they don't accept them, no problem, we will have a league of 18 teams and they will have a magnificent one of two," Del Nido was quoted as saying on the club website (www.sevillafc.es).
    "This is a cake in which everyone participates and our decision will be radical.
    "It is our responsibility to make sure it (the league) doesn't become a fight between only two teams."
    Barca pipped Real to the La Liga title last month, both breaking the previous points record for a season with third-placed Valencia a distant 25 points behind Real.
    One of the main bones of contention between the top two and the rest is the distribution of television money.
    In Spain, clubs negotiate deals with TV companies individually, unlike the Premier League, the German Bundesliga and France's Ligue 1, where collective deals are struck and revenue shared out.
    Real and Barca, two of the world's richest clubs, rake in half the available cash with deals worth about 150 million euros a season.
    They have repeatedly said they are unwilling to accept a system of collective bargaining, arguing that it would hurt their competitiveness in European competition.
    This should be eased in so Barcelona and Real Madrid can slowly adjust but it should be the longterm goal. However I don't buy for a minute that they would ever force those two clubs out but then Del Nido craves attention.

    Anyway I don't buy the point about Real Madrid and Barcelona not being able to compete. This is bullshit because it will only mean that Real Madrid/Barca won't be able to just waste money like before and have to buy less but in a more concentrated way. This might push Real Madrid towards giving more players a chance too.
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    Post by flo23perez Thu Jul 01, 2010 2:25 pm

    Jaime wrote:Now that it is June, I thought maybe this year we could try to consolidate all the posts for the new Spanish league season into one thread rather than creating a separate thread for each jornada. There always seems to be confusion with mid-week news. Does it go in the previous weeks thread or the current thread, etc.

    Of course all the transfer news can go in the 'mercado' thread. But everything else can go here: preseason friendlies, info on tactics, squads, la liga loca and other commentary and of course once the season starts all of the banter, windups, and analysis of Jornada 1 through 38. Ale

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    Hey, do you know when they will do the draw to determine the fixtures for next season?
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    Post by Jaime Thu Jul 01, 2010 3:28 pm

    flo23perez wrote:Hey, do you know when they will do the draw to determine the fixtures for next season?

    I don't know when the new fixture list will be available. I just checked the LFP website and there is no announcement as yet.
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    Post by Jaime Thu Jul 01, 2010 4:12 pm

    Here is one for Super:

    Michael Laudrup is close to becoming the new manager of Mallorca.

    http://ultimahora.es/mallorca/noticia/deportes/real-mallorca/serra-ferrer-espera-concretar-en-las-proximas-horas-el-fichaje-de-laudrup.html


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