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    Post by mongrel hawk Wed Jun 16, 2010 11:10 pm

    Europe (only games against rest of the world teams)

    2 wins
    5 draws
    2 losses

    11 points in 9 games. impressive.

    S America

    4 wins
    2 draws
    0 loss

    14 points in 6 games. Ale
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    Post by Barrilete Wed Jun 16, 2010 11:14 pm

    I like this thread Very Happy
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    Post by Rosicky Wed Jun 16, 2010 11:17 pm

    The 4 wins have come against....


    Hondarus
    South Africa
    North Korea
    Nigeria

    lol!
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    Post by Fey Wed Jun 16, 2010 11:19 pm

    Asian teams are doing better then Europe! But a lot of good European teams were playing other European teams.
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    Post by debaser Wed Jun 16, 2010 11:23 pm

    Let's wait and see how this one plays out. Too early to draw any conclusions Ale
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    Post by mongrel hawk Wed Jun 16, 2010 11:31 pm

    @rosicky

    don't make a fool of yourself. europe has beaten australia and algeria only, and lost to s korea and ghana. wow!!!


    @fey

    only holland and spain played against euro teams, and one of them lost. ok

    and I can tell you I don't wanna watch slovakia, slovenia, denmark and servia play each other. it would be torture. how the hell did those crappy teams qualify?

    colombia would do alright here. maybe Fifa should turn our 5th half spot into a full 5th spot.
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    Post by L r dd Wed Jun 16, 2010 11:45 pm

    Don't speak to soon all the teams beaten by SA are shite. Only Uruguay won by more than one goal despite this. S Korea are pretty good and Ghana are probably the best frica has to offer here as a team. Greece and slovakia maybe a bit poor but the other teams should all get wins against rest of the world teams.
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    Post by Puro Thu Jun 17, 2010 12:19 am

    lol! Settle down Todo! This is just beginning. It's a fucking shame that Perú, Colombia, Ecuador, and even Bolivia and Venezuela have to watch euro shite play when our teams are so much better than that shite.

    NEVER FUCKING THE LESS, that's what we have, them Euro's giving themselves 13 spots to the World Cup when they only have 20 teams. That's some crock of shite FFS!
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    Post by Hlebagone Thu Jun 17, 2010 12:23 am

    A quick count shows we have 53 european teams try to qualify for the world cup. Shall we contrast this with South America where half the teams can qualify.
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    Post by mongrel hawk Thu Jun 17, 2010 1:17 am

    @lrd

    and the teams beaten by europe are excelent!!!!!!!! wow! s america played much less and won much more. fact.

    and s korea and ghana are horrible. the thing is they are not as fucked up as servia and greece. greece wouldn't survive Brazilian 3rd division. and this shite won the euro cup. Doh

    @puro

    do you think we can put all 5 in the second round?
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    Post by Puro Thu Jun 17, 2010 2:46 am

    mongrel hawk wrote:@lrd

    and the teams beaten by europe are excelent!!!!!!!! wow! s america played much less and won much more. fact.

    and s korea and ghana are horrible. the thing is they are not as fucked up as servia and greece. greece wouldn't survive Brazilian 3rd division. and this shite won the euro cup. Doh

    @puro

    do you think we can put all 5 in the second round?

    Yes, I picked all five to advance. What's really fucked up is that them euros who run FIFA and give themselves 13 spots when they should only get 8 at most, have put two of our cousins (México and Honduras) in our groups. Them FIFA euro c**ts want us to KO one another. México should've gone with the Dutchies and them Catrachos should've gone with the Teutones.

    That way our cousins would've had a good chance to advance by playing against Euro shite! But NO! FUCK NO! FIFA tells us to KO one another. Instead of Honduras whooping some Serbian ass, they've got to suffer against a 60% Chile or instead of México whooping Danish butt, they've got to duke it out with Uruguay. FFS!
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    Post by Isco Benny Thu Jun 17, 2010 7:53 am

    Hlebagone wrote:A quick count shows we have 53 european teams try to qualify for the world cup. Shall we contrast this with South America where half the teams can qualify.

    Shhh, don't let this fact get in the way of a good conspiracy Laughing
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    Post by gone Thu Jun 17, 2010 8:45 am

    mongrel hawk wrote:Europe (only games against rest of the world teams)

    2 wins
    5 draws
    2 losses

    11 points in 9 games. impressive.

    S America

    4 wins
    2 draws
    0 loss

    14 points in 6 games. Ale

    Why not Europe vs S.America only and let the rest of the world out.

    Uruguay 0–0 France
    Italy 1–1 Paraguay
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    Post by S4P Thu Jun 17, 2010 10:19 am

    Let's see how many South American teams make the QF and how many European teams make the QF before we start making a comparison.

    Everyone saw the ease at which Germany brushed aside Australia, with Australia playing at 100% intensity from the start. Imagine if Germany had been playing the Inca warriors with all them corrupt fuckos Shocked We would have witnessed the biggest thrashing of all time.

    If less than 4 South American teams make it, there could be an argument for reducing the number of South American teams qualifying.
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    Post by bluenine Thu Jun 17, 2010 10:37 am

    I had a feeling we will see this thread Wink

    South America Ale Ale Ale

    Maybe FIFA should take 1 or 2 spots away from Europe and give them to South America. I rather see a Colombia than a Greece or Slovenia bom
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    Post by Romford Pele Thu Jun 17, 2010 10:38 am

    South Americans Ale

    Always adventurous ok
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    Post by Aristoskank Thu Jun 17, 2010 10:39 am

    mongrel hawk wrote:greece wouldn't survive Brazilian 3rd division. and this shite won the euro cup. Doh

    6 years ago.


    Argentina are picking players from our second division, Brazil starting with a player who plays in the Greek league.


    Ooooh!
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    Post by L r dd Thu Jun 17, 2010 10:40 am

    bluenine wrote:I had a feeling we will see this thread Wink

    South America Ale Ale Ale

    Maybe FIFA should take 1 or 2 spots away from Europe and give them to South America. I rather see a Colombia than a Greece or Slovenia bom

    I rather see a russia than colombia or boliva whats your point
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    Post by Six Thu Jun 17, 2010 10:48 am

    The European teams that got to this World Cup are not really representative of the best we have tbh.

    (real) Asians have been overperforming far more than the South American teams so far anyway!
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    Post by mongrel hawk Thu Jun 17, 2010 11:43 am

    Edin Dzeko wrote:
    mongrel hawk wrote:Europe (only games against rest of the world teams)

    2 wins
    5 draws
    2 losses

    11 points in 9 games. impressive.

    S America

    4 wins
    2 draws
    0 loss

    14 points in 6 games. Ale

    Why not Europe vs S.America only and let the rest of the world out.




    Uruguay 0–0 France
    Italy 1–1 Paraguay

    because it would be too easy for us. Brazil will beat portugal and argentina will lead a massacre against greece.


    moreover, we've already won this battle.

    4 WCs in South America, around 10 WCs in Europe, many more teams from Europe, and the number of titles are the same.
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    Post by mongrel hawk Thu Jun 17, 2010 11:46 am

    S4P wrote:Let's see how many South American teams make the QF and how many European teams make the QF before we start making a comparison.
    Everyone saw the ease at which Germany brushed aside Australia, with Australia playing at 100% intensity from the start. Imagine if Germany had been playing the Inca warriors with all them corrupt fuckos Shocked We would have witnessed the biggest thrashing of all time.

    If less than 4 South American teams make it, there could be an argument for reducing the number of South American teams qualifying.

    yeh, let's see the percentage of SA teams that reach the quarters and of Euro teams that reach the quarters, in relation the the ones that started the competition. We only got 5 teams, so we can't work with absolute numbers.
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    Post by Tweesus Thu Jun 17, 2010 11:48 am

    There's a great possibility that all five might make it to the quarters at this rate!

    Uruguay are currently favourites to win their group.

    Paraguay could also top their group if they beat NZ and Slovakia

    And Chile looked thoroughly impressive yesterday and could easily top their group too.
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    Post by 110% Thu Jun 17, 2010 11:49 am

    L r dd wrote:
    bluenine wrote:I had a feeling we will see this thread Wink

    South America Ale Ale Ale

    Maybe FIFA should take 1 or 2 spots away from Europe and give them to South America. I rather see a Colombia than a Greece or Slovenia bom

    I rather see a russia than colombia or boliva whats your point

    I'd rather see turkey, croatia and sweden (the last one for the fans)
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    Post by debaser Thu Jun 17, 2010 11:50 am

    Direct percentages out of the number who started is unfair too though. There's 13 Euro teams so 5 are guaranteed not to make QF whatever happens!

    Have to do #SA teams/5 and #euro teams/8 to get the fairest comparison
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    Post by mongrel hawk Thu Jun 17, 2010 11:52 am

    Tweesus wrote:There's a great possibility that all five might make it to the quarters at this rate!

    Uruguay are currently favourites to win their group.

    Paraguay could also top their group if they beat NZ and Slovakia

    And Chile looked thoroughly impressive yesterday and could easily top their group too.

    no way. spain will beat them.
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    Post by debaser Thu Jun 17, 2010 11:54 am

    Tweesus wrote:There's a great possibility that all five might make it to the quarters at this rate!

    Uruguay are currently favourites to win their group.

    Paraguay could also top their group if they beat NZ and Slovakia

    And Chile looked thoroughly impressive yesterday and could easily top their group too.

    Getting way ahead. Looking good for all 5 getting to 2R, but for one thing it's likely two will meet if they do all make it. Reasonable chance of Uruguay-Argentina or Chile-Brazil.
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    Post by BoBo Vieri 32 Thu Jun 17, 2010 11:54 am

    debaser wrote:Direct percentages out of the number who started is unfair too though. There's 13 Euro teams so 5 are guaranteed not to make QF whatever happens!

    Have to do #SA teams/5 and #euro teams/8 to get the fairest comparison

    We could just look at who makes the round of 16.
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    Post by abundance Thu Jun 17, 2010 11:55 am

    mongrel hawk wrote:moreover, we've already won this battle.

    4 WCs in South America, around 10 WCs in Europe, many more teams from Europe, and the number of titles are the same.
    mmh does not compute.
    we are not discussing wheter Conmebol hosts a couple or three awesome footballing nations, are we? ;-)
    the issue is whether the also runs are so good that more than half of its members deserve to take a ride in the cup
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    Post by debaser Thu Jun 17, 2010 11:59 am

    BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:
    debaser wrote:Direct percentages out of the number who started is unfair too though. There's 13 Euro teams so 5 are guaranteed not to make QF whatever happens!

    Have to do #SA teams/5 and #euro teams/8 to get the fairest comparison

    We could just look at who makes the round of 16.

    I think it'd still be statistically flawed, but I guess we're not making a dissertation out of it Wink
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    Post by BoBo Vieri 32 Thu Jun 17, 2010 12:03 pm

    debaser wrote:
    BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:
    debaser wrote:Direct percentages out of the number who started is unfair too though. There's 13 Euro teams so 5 are guaranteed not to make QF whatever happens!

    Have to do #SA teams/5 and #euro teams/8 to get the fairest comparison

    We could just look at who makes the round of 16.

    I think it'd still be statistically flawed, but I guess we're not making a dissertation out of it Wink

    hehe

    No more flawed than if we use the quarter finals. At least this way teams from the same continent won't directly knock eachother out though i guess teams from other continents could knock them out.

    Perhaps we could use some sort of coefficient like UEFA do in the CL? It would also keep Ozil entertained.

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