Goal-line technology

kas wrote:

Hlebagone wrote:What about run outs in cricket? Just as difficult/easy to call, but hasnt created any controversy.

Besides, it could hardly create more controversy than it does at the moment.

Not really. There's a white line. You've either crossed it or not. And if there's doubt, batsman wins. The rules are clear.


What do you do about a foul in the box? This isn't American football, where a foul is clearly defined in the rules.

kas wrote:Ok, let's focus on goal line technology. I admit I got a bit sidetracked and took the "slippery slope" line of argument.

How do you implement it? The human-free method of putting a chip in the ball hasn't worked.

This kind of thing happens maybe four or five times a season in the top leagues or big games, which is all we're talking about here.

When does it become cost effective to implement a system that is required 5 times out of hundreds of games? Do you sit a guy in a video room for every game in every top league in case he may be required?

I'd rather FIFA spend 10 million or whatever on building an academy somewhere. Maybe the English FA should do that as well?

kas wrote:
Trust me, this isn't as easy as it sounds. First off, as FIFA have rightly pointed out in the past, this is a different issue to tennis, where a computer and not a human makes the decision. Ok, the goal-line stuff can be done automatically, but not the grey situations I've pointed out above.

In football, technology would just mean another human making a decision. Different refs interpret situations in different ways...if you had a "video ref" constantly overriding what the ref on the pitch decides, what does that do for his authority? How do you sort out the confusion over who has the right to make a final decision? Players who have a decision go against them will appeal everything.

Look, I'm not denying there's inertia on FIFA's part in not allowing technology into the game, but surely if their experiments (and there have been a lot, they even tried one where there would be a camera off the pitch next to the 4th official, and the ref could go over and have a look) proved conclusive some steps would have been taken by now? It's not Blatter and his cronies trying to conjure up some conspiracy.

L r dd wrote:

kas wrote:Ok, let's focus on goal line technology. I admit I got a bit sidetracked and took the "slippery slope" line of argument.

How do you implement it? The human-free method of putting a chip in the ball hasn't worked.

This kind of thing happens maybe four or five times a season in the top leagues or big games, which is all we're talking about here.

When does it become cost effective to implement a system that is required 5 times out of hundreds of games? Do you sit a guy in a video room for every game in every top league in case he may be required?

I'd rather FIFA spend 10 million or whatever on building an academy somewhere. Maybe the English FA should do that as well?

What the fuck. You have a 4th official on the touchline with tv's avaliable to him. If the situation occurs it takes 10 seconds to look at the replay. You don't need all these millions spent.

Historicus wrote:Talking about the cost as a limiting factor is RIDICULOUS. "Goal line technology" = two cameras per goal, one on each side, some cabling, and a monitor. That's it. $1000 per stadium, maybe.

Historicus wrote:Talking about the cost as a limiting factor is RIDICULOUS. "Goal line technology" = two cameras per goal, one on each side, some cabling, and a monitor. That's it. $1000 per stadium, maybe.

kas wrote:
Your cameras will get smashed multiple times each game by Lampard and his "I'm going to have a go with this ball" shooting.

borocooper wrote:That is the shittest argument against this technology.

If all we do is fix the business of whether a goal has actually gone in or not...its not going to stop all the other shit that happens in games.

Big 4 Billy Bollocks™ wrote:

borocooper wrote:That is the shittest argument against this technology.

If all we do is fix the business of whether a goal has actually gone in or not...its not going to stop all the other shit that happens in games.

It doesn't stop goals being scored when there's an offside/infringements committed by attacking players though, does it? Where does it stop, do we get a gay challenge system like on the tennis show courts?

Roy Carroll/Pedro Mendes still gripes me, so it's not like I'm talking having never been hurt by it.

Human error by players/managers/officials... deep down I love it as an unpredictable element, without controversy, where's the back story?