The Next England Squad

Pierre Littbarski wrote:

Deluded F*ck wrote:did you see Capello & Clemence there?

"So easy, even Darren Bent scores"

We can all put a brave face on it but there's no disguising just what a huge blow it was to be without Lampard and terry for these 2 vital games.

Nice of SWP to show off his entry for the worst pass in the history of world football competition.

Possible pen for Switzerland re Ashley Cole ? Suprised by the lack of appeal.

Great goal from Shakira - who does he play for ?


JINKY

FC Basel I think

He surely cannot put Fat Frank back in there now, but Milner being suspended gives him a glimmer of a chance of doing it

debaser wrote:

Six wrote:Capello should play Joe Cole on the left just for symmetries sake.

Add in a Carlton Cole-Andrew Johnson* strike partnership and it'd be bloody beautiful


*what the hell's happened to him? Been injured forever!

According to "Physio Room" he is suffering from "Jumpers Knee"... whatever it is, but it has to be serious, as there is no return date for him and as you mentioned, he has been injured forever.

PS. It's was so nice by Roy Hodgson to pay Everton around 12m for him. Thanks once again

That first time pass by Gerrard to Adam Johnson for the 2-0 = top class. Absolutely brilliant ball.

stinger wrote:

debaser wrote:

Six wrote:Capello should play Joe Cole on the left just for symmetries sake.

Add in a Carlton Cole-Andrew Johnson* strike partnership and it'd be bloody beautiful


*what the hell's happened to him? Been injured forever!

According to "Physio Room" he is suffering from "Jumpers Knee"... whatever it is, but it has to be serious, as there is no return date for him and as you mentioned, he has been injured forever.

PS. It's was so nice by Roy Hodgson to pay Everton around 12m for him. Thanks once again

Ah. The only thing I know about Jumper's Knee is that I've seen it mentioned alongside the name Owen Hargreaves

12m was a helluva bit of business. He's 29, pace is a big part of his game and now his knees have gone...can't really see him ever getting back to what he was. Fulham are just damn lucky Zamora turned into a decent player & a relative bargain to balance it out!

surprise surprise... pressure is off and england are back to their winning ways...

Do you think it's as simple as that?

Allez les rouges wrote:Do you think it's as simple as that?

Fitness is another thingy

Ricardo Wetzel wrote:

Allez les rouges wrote:Do you think it's as simple as that?

Fitness is another thingy

Having a keeper that doesn't throw the ball in the net and isn't a past it 39 year old helps.

Aha! Let's start the "would Joe Hart have saved Thomas Müller's 3-1" debate...

To be fair, if I was having an agenda proved so spectacularly right I'd be ramming it home at every opportunity too

You know I love ramming it home to you allez

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJmv_NyYCkk&feature=related

Allez les rouges wrote: Aha! Let's start the "would Joe Hart have saved Thomas Müller's 3-1" debate...

If Joe Hart had been playing, the linesman and ref never would've dared be such shitehawks with a Shrewsbury man around and it would've been 2-2. Muller never would've had the opportunity as England would've taken the game comfortably from the collapsing Germans

I agree

(or as they say these days "Word"? is that the expression? Standard.)

the englands want lewis holtby, he has an english father

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1314231/Lewis-Holtby-captains-Germanys-Under-21s-play-England.html




but he is currently the u21 captain, and wants to respect what germany did to him

holtby would have ended like hargreaves, the best english player

How? Career ended by injury?

Holtby is an Everton fan, clearly German though, wonder if his English is completely fluent. Was surprised that Hunt wasn't confident enough to give an interview in English.

Was going to say "the englands" can fuck right off, but having read about his antics in 2001, I'm not so sure...

Here's what Holtby says: 'I have both countries in my heart. I supported England as a child, but I'm not a traitor. I must have honour and respect for Germany. I love the country of England, but Germany have given me the honour of the captaincy at Under 21 level and I have to give them back that respect.

'It is the bizarre thing. It's funny. I always supported England but now I play for Germany. 'I must admit when England won 5-1 in Munich (when he was 11) I was really English, I had my shirt on, everything. GOOD LAD!

'This year I watched the World Cup match between England and Germany with my dad. He was biting his fingernails and I sat there calm, relaxed, hoping really for a good game that ended in a draw with the best team winning through. Afterwards my dad was sad, and when the Lampard "goal" wasn't given, he was choked.

'For me personally, to one day play for Germany and then the next for England would be difficult. To settle in a team full of English guys having come from the German team ... well, it is not like switching clubs.

'I have to pay respect to Germany, for what they have done for me, how they have helped develop me. It is a decision I have probably made. But it would be an honour to do both.'

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Sounds pretty English to me. Good to see the Germans keeping up that fine tradition of poaching other nationalities at a young age

C'mon Allez, Lewis was 10 years old back then. I think we can excuse his behaviour as kindliche Verblendung. He also mentioned in an interview that he's proud to represent Germany and proud to sing the German anthem so there really shouldn't be any doubts about his allegiance to the German NT.

Bernd, Lewis was born in Germany. If anyone is poaching here, then it's England.

Guckst du hier zum Beispiel

http://tv.dfb.de/index.php?view=2492

we have enough problems with the England team without Lewis Holtby. His mother is a whore and his father is a deviant, look at the problems we already had with Gerrard, Cole, Terry, Rooney and Bramble.

Stiftung Haeschentest wrote:C'mon Allez, Lewis was 10 years old back then. I think we can excuse his behaviour as kindliche Verblendung. He also mentioned in an interview that he's proud to represent Germany and proud to sing the German anthem so there really shouldn't be any doubts about his allegiance to the German NT.

Bernd, Lewis was born in Germany. If anyone is poaching here, then it's England.

He was only born in Germany because his father was there checking up on you lot, as it's well recognised hisorically that you cannot be trusted.

If you'd behaved a bit better back int' day, he'd have been born in good old blighty. And probably gone onto become a rugged centre half more famous for falling out of nightclubs / having sex with prostitutes. Which is how we like them thank you

yesterday holtby made the decision

he will play for germany



me thinks its a mistake, he mabye good, but i am not sure if he is good enough for germany, we have plenty of talent in his position

in england he would be guaranteed starter, he has everything england lack, creativity and vision

We have wingers coming out of our arse. Give us a call when you steal a CM or a RB.

Kroos wrote:yesterday holtby made the decision

he will play for germany



me thinks its a mistake, he mabye good, but i am not sure if he is good enough for germany, we have plenty of talent in his position

in england he would be guaranteed starter, he has everything england lack, creativity and vision

Yes, he's going to find it hard to get into your midfield comprised of a Tunisian, Turk, Bosnian and Pole.

holtby is a creative central AM, but you can find him in every positoin during a game

this position were england lack the most quality

Nah, right now we need the most:

A solid DM with decent passing, a new Hargreaves basically, new centre backs, a target man that can play at international level, and a better right back would be nice.

AM is actually ok.

england may have AM, but none really that has vision and passing that brings your team into another level like özil is doing it for germany

i am not saying holtby could have done that , but who knows, he has become 20 years old this year, many time to proof himself

but i agree, the england team is full of construction zones

Ancelotti has been bigging up Josh McEachran

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/chelsea/8024951/Josh-McEachran-ready-for-the-big-time-at-Chelsea-says-Carlo-Ancelotti.html

Seen his performances for England's European u17 Championship team - looks very decent prospect

Kroos wrote:england may have AM, but none really that has vision and passing that brings your team into another level like özil is doing it for germany

i am not saying holtby could have done that , but who knows, he has become 20 years old this year, many time to proof himself

but i agree, the england team is full of construction zones

Why use the example of a country who hasn't won anything for over a decade?

England should be looking at how Iniesta is doing it for Spain - they're the ones who are actually the most successful side in International football. Not Germany

Kroos wrote:england may have AM, but none really that has vision and passing that brings your team into another level like özil is doing it for germany

i am not saying holtby could have done that , but who knows, he has become 20 years old this year, many time to proof himself

but i agree, the england team is full of construction zones

None of our attacking AMs are as good as Ozil no, but Gerrard is still, often, a very good player. Wilshere looks to be very gifted - time will tell, as does McEachran. So its not a problem area as such.

Whereas:

Targetman: No one, apart from Andy Carrol who may end up being average or rubbish. Apart from that absolutely no one.

DM: Gareth Barry - getting older and varies between neat and completely useless. After that - theres Parker - average and also old, Cattermole - thug and Huddlestone - Milkfloat and not really what I think we need in my hypothetical all England team.

RB: Johnson. And that is actually it. Micah Richards, but he has the disadvantage of being shit.

AM looks pretty healthy now really.