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    How many goals will Spurs score??

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    Post by Ricardo Jol Sun Nov 21, 2010 12:51 pm

    Spurs are in superb form with Bale and former HSV legend Van der Vaart as the real hot shots.... Werder Bremen, however, is todays laughing stock of Europe. The one loss is worse than the other.... There form is truly abysmal.

    There is no question anymore that Spurs will win

    The only question is, how big will they win?
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    Post by Kroos Sun Nov 21, 2010 2:58 pm

    wrong section me thinks

    but everything expect an humiliation would be a surprise
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    Post by kroesius Sun Nov 21, 2010 3:44 pm

    After being battered in the Bundesliga a good result for Bremen would indicate once again, that the Bundesliga is more competitive than a CL group. cheers
    And we still need the points.
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    Post by Ä Sun Nov 21, 2010 4:19 pm

    Spurs SHOULD be able to humiliate Werder

    EVERYBODY else is doing so in the Bundesliga

    in 13 league games Werder have already conceded over 30 goals Yikes

    and they tend to be FAR better AT HOME than on the road in the CL

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    Naldo and Pizarro are missing

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    latest update: Wesley will be missing as well

    THIS should get ugly for the fisheaters

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    Post by Isco Benny Sun Nov 21, 2010 7:50 pm

    Obviously, a totally ridiculous thread.

    Spurs haven't kept a clean sheet since the opening game of the season, so unless Bremen are worse than the likes of West Brom, Wolves, Sunderland - who have all managed to score at WHL this season - then they SHOULD at least score one. Anything less would be a HUMIIATION to all the German Bundesliga hype flying around these boards Ale
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    Post by Ä Sun Nov 21, 2010 9:13 pm

    bernd

    Werder lost to relegation bound/near Schalke 4:0

    Allofs called it the worst day of his reign

    and now they are no longer even ruling out getting rid of Schaaf, as they have always done in the past

    Pizarro is out and Almeida shoots blanks

    Spurs will meet a Bremen that's on its last single TOE

    a 10:0 for Spurs IS possible

    try to get a ticket for the game, bernd

    if the EPL is as good as you think, it'll be worth your money




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    Post by Isco Benny Sun Nov 21, 2010 9:24 pm

    Laughing

    It's like passing the hot potato around.

    We'll win, that isn't in question. We outplayed Bremen on their own patch in our first CL game proper. I also saw Bremen get pasted 5-1 against Fulham in a friendly just a few weeks prior to the start of the season. By the sounds of it, they are horribly out of form.

    But, as the EPL is so full of mediocrity according to the likes of Kroos and your goodself, then even Bremen should at least score a goal. Some of the most mediocre teams in the EPL have managed it. Our defence is a non existent entity, rather like the ghost of Justin Fashanu.

    I wouldn't expect more than a 2-1 or 3-1 victory, given we only need to win to go through to the next round, and 'Arry and the boys will have half an eye on Liverpool on Sunday. So I expect a business like performance, with Spurs sparing German HUMILIATION and observing the footballing equivalent of the Versailles Treaty.

    Think about it Ale
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    Post by A & K Sun Nov 21, 2010 11:57 pm

    What is happening with Bremen? Did they change their coach, change players? What they keep losing all the time?
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:08 am

    @white pele,

    I was thinking about bremen also to score but the fact is they create chances today but no one is able to find the net...

    Of course it is dangerous to say englanders will win easily from germans. I can't see Spurs not winning this game. It is so surreal to see bremen struggle that much. Even as hsv/spurs supporter i feel sorry for them....
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Mon Nov 22, 2010 11:43 am

    Can the mods change it into the european cups section...?
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    Post by Axeslammer Mon Nov 22, 2010 11:48 am

    It took me some time to realize I'm a mod nowadays Embarassed

    Done as requested Spurs -Bremen  F_ale2
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Mon Nov 22, 2010 12:01 pm

    Axeslammer wrote:It took me some time to realize I'm a mod nowadays Embarassed

    Done as requested Spurs -Bremen  F_ale2

    tnx mate!!!
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    Post by Isco Benny Mon Nov 22, 2010 12:55 pm

    I preferred it in the European Leagues section, given that is Otto and Kroos' hiding place once all the Bundesliga teams get knocked out early in Europe, to then big up the next 13 year old Wunderkid Laughing Ale
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    Post by Axeslammer Mon Nov 22, 2010 1:26 pm

    Well this is one of those tricky matches : you'd expect Spurs to score at least four against Werder....

    ....yet those kind of matches hardly exist in football, wouldn't surprise me at all if Werder would succeed in spoiling the Bale-VDV party Sad
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    Post by debaser Mon Nov 22, 2010 1:47 pm

    Axeslammer wrote:Well this is one of those tricky matches : you'd expect Spurs to score at least four against Werder....

    ....yet those kind of matches hardly exist in football, wouldn't surprise me at all if Werder would succeed in spoiling the Bale-VDV party Sad

    True dat.

    And if Spurs have retained any sense of their heritage they are eminently capable of going from great wins to ridiculous defeats in the space of a week.

    Who knows if it can be the case with Werder, but sometimes teams on very bad form can suddenly do much better in games where there is absolutely zero expectations. And teams on the back of a very good win can suddenly become complacent in fixtures which look much easier.
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    Post by rosenthal Mon Nov 22, 2010 3:32 pm

    Tottenham can beat anyone ... and lose to anyone

    My bet is a close 5-4 win
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Mon Nov 22, 2010 4:13 pm

    rosenthal wrote:Tottenham can beat anyone ... and lose to anyone

    My bet is a close 5-4 win

    don't be so shy.... it will be an easy win.... no doubt. don't be so scared!
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    Post by chrissicross Mon Nov 22, 2010 4:39 pm

    Naldo, Pizarro, Silvestre, Borowski, Boenisch, Wesley, Arnautovic and Pasanen are injured, Frings is suspended.

    So we will start with at least two players from our U23 team on Wednesday, Dominik Schmidt (LB) and Felix Kroos. Fortunately Silvestre is injured. This guy must be the worst "football player", who has ever played for Bremen.

    With regard to the result a 7-0 for Spurs would hardly be a suprise. Erm
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    Post by Allez les rouges Tue Nov 23, 2010 10:26 am

    'This guy must be the worst "football player", who has ever played for Bremen'

    We did repeatedly warn you about this Sad I dread to think what that Arsenal mate of Thomas Schaaf's made of it...

    This thread is slightly unnecessary but at the same time very hard to complain about. I'm going for an 8-0.

    I think I need to take a break from football Crying or Very sad

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    Post by Isco Benny Tue Nov 23, 2010 1:56 pm

    chrissicross wrote:Naldo, Pizarro, Silvestre, Borowski, Boenisch, Wesley, Arnautovic and Pasanen are injured, Frings is suspended.

    So we will start with at least two players from our U23 team on Wednesday, Dominik Schmidt (LB) and Felix Kroos. Fortunately Silvestre is injured. This guy must be the worst "football player", who has ever played for Bremen.

    With regard to the result a 7-0 for Spurs would hardly be a suprise. Erm

    As already said beforehand - if there is a team in England (other than Newcastle) capable of winning one week and losing the next, it's Spurs.

    One thing that should be guaranteed is that it will be entertaining. We've had more entertaining matches this season than I can care to remember, for either all the right or wrong reasons
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    Post by Stiftung Haeschentest Tue Nov 23, 2010 3:01 pm

    Cocky Astronautovic is a lot less pessimistic about Werder's chances:

    "Tottenham is not the best team. Everybody expects us to win, and I think we will."

    lol! cheers


    Re the Silvestre issue

    I don't want to absolve the guy of all the blame, but singling him out as a main culprit - as it has been done by fans lately - is rather unfair. He has been rubbish, but so have been a lot other players of Bremen this season as well.

    Silvestre's rubbish form, at least, can be explained with a lack of match practise, but what excuse do Bremen's midfield players have?

    Bremen play with indisciplined attacking mids that rarely track back when they lose the ball, and their defensive mids lack pace and are getting caught out of position regularly. Add to this that Bremen's offense - their biggest strength usually - is currently underperforming considerably and it's easy to understand why Bremen's back four is so vulnerable right now. Bremen don't play as a team at the moment, neither defensively nor offensively. If they did then I am pretty sure that Silvestre wouldn't look half as bad as he does right now.

    Anyway, good luck on Wednesday. Here is me hoping for another Werder-Wunder, however unlikely it may be. Hug


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    Post by Ricardo Jol Tue Nov 23, 2010 4:17 pm

    There is hope for Schaaf and co...

    Spurs best player wont play

    Ale
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    Post by chrissicross Tue Nov 23, 2010 7:32 pm

    Silvestre is unbelievable slow, both physically and mentally. He is simply completely over-challenged with Bundesliga football most of the time. He loses the ball all the time, he can't cross the halfway line, because the game would already be over before he could return defending in our own half. Hell, he even can't do a throw-in right, most of time he just throws the ball directly to a rival player.

    So is Silvestre responsible for our current situation? Well, partly. Imo we have two main problems:

    - Our defense was already weakened by the injury of Naldo. But Silvestre put the boot into it.

    - We're missing a playmaker. That's the main reason why our attacking play doesn't work well enough this season, especially when Pizarro is injured. Or when he has to play in the midfield half of the time to compensate for the missing playmaker, where he also has to run much more than he should. No wonder he suffers from a muscle injury all the time.

    Defending was never really a strength of Werder Bremen during the last years, but below the line our attacking play has always been good enough to compensate that. This season however we've completely lost any balance between attack and defense.

    Now we're in a kind of downward spiral, which is hard to stop.

    It was a big mistake not to sign a replacement for Özil, and it was a mistake not to sign the much needed decent LB, and it was a big mistake to spend around 3m Euro per season for a senile snail, who makes everything even worse.

    In that sense Silveste is yet another symbol of our insufficient transfer policy during the last three years.
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Tue Nov 23, 2010 11:49 pm

    Hah, this rather reminds me of when Wigan lost their opening 2 games (At Home!) by a combined score of 9-0... then proceeded to turn us over.

    Whatever Bremen's wretched form, they still have some attacking quality. They have nothing to lose, and I hate Spurs facing a side with that mindset (Pompey FA cup Semi).
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    Post by chrissicross Wed Nov 24, 2010 3:59 pm

    Silvestre: Eine Symbolfigur der Bremer Krise

    http://newsticker.sueddeutsche.de/list/id/1073275
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    Post by Isco Benny Wed Nov 24, 2010 4:26 pm

    Ricardo Wetzel wrote:There is hope for Schaaf and co...

    Spurs best player wont play

    Ale

    Nah, looks like Bale will make it.

    Van Der Vaart isn't though, losing our 2nd best player is a bit of a pain in the arse, alongside our 3rd best player - Huddlestone - having been injured.

    Luckily we have our 4th (Modric), 5th (Defoe) and 6th (Kaboul) best players all fit and raring to go
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    Post by Puro Wed Nov 24, 2010 5:00 pm

    Ricardo Wetzel wrote:There is hope for Schaaf and co...

    Spurs best player wont play

    Ale

    Are you serious? van Der Vaart won't make it tonight?
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    Post by chrissicross Wed Nov 24, 2010 5:01 pm

    Almeida can't play as well tonight. Now only Sandro Wagner is left from the strikers of our first team. Laughing Rolling Eyes

    Well, hopefully Schaaf will start with one of our youth team strikers, Thy or Testroet, then. Wagner has been awful whenever he played for us so far.
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    Post by Puro Wed Nov 24, 2010 5:04 pm

    chrissicross wrote:Almeida can't play as well tonight. Now only Sandro Wagner is left from the strikers of our first team. Laughing Rolling Eyes

    Well, hopefully Schaaf will start with one of our youth team strikers, Thy or Testroet, then. Wagner has been awful whenever he played for us so far.

    Bremen have had horrendous luck with injuries, Pizarro and Naldo can't be replaced.
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    Post by chrissicross Wed Nov 24, 2010 5:10 pm

    Yeah, Prödl can't replace Naldo and none of our other strikers has anywhere near the class of Pizarro.

    Anyway, our expected line up for tonight:

    Wiese

    Fritz, Mertesacker, Prödl, Schmidt

    Bargfrede, Jensen

    Kroos, Hunt, Marin

    Wagner (hopefully Thy or Testroet instead)

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