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    Post by bluenine Fri Dec 17, 2010 5:23 pm

    A repeat of last years final... neither treble winners Inter nor Bayern (who were 1 game away from a treble) have started this season well. But there are still 2 months for this classic with a transfer window in between....

    By that time, both teams could be back to their best....
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    Post by Kroos Sun Dec 19, 2010 9:15 am

    i hope we can field our best 11, badstuber and robben should be back


    inter and bayern can only improve there form, it cant be really much worse, wouldn`t surprise me if one of those teams reach the final, if barca is not in there way

    its always better to peak late, like we did last season Very Happy


    inter is a dangerous side, now they won the club world cup, maybe that pushed there team in the mental area, and also some injured players coming back
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    Post by Effenberg Thu Dec 23, 2010 7:42 pm

    Too bad they're sacking Benitez. I still think we're slight favorites, barring more injuries to key players.
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    Post by Kroos Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:11 am

    wow Leonardo the new inter coach, that does not really scare me

    but a new coach always brings new effects, hopefully the effect has been squipped in february
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    Post by fcb Mon Feb 07, 2011 5:24 am

    How good is this tie going to be bounce

    Both teams score loads and can't defend. I expect a minimum of 10 goals in the 2 legs!
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    Post by d gorgeous one haz spoken Fri Feb 11, 2011 7:50 pm

    Sneijd'or is in the form of his life, scoring (belters!) consecutively in his 3 games after being back from injury. Bayern had the upperhand, but now that Benitez has gone I think Inter are clear favourites.
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    Post by d gorgeous one haz spoken Sat Feb 12, 2011 4:31 pm

    Robben is back, what a game that was against Hoffeheim for him. It's 50/50 now I think against Inter.
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    Post by Kroos Sun Feb 13, 2011 8:33 am

    well i know we that lucky that in 2 weeks both will be injured again

    we need both, then bayern is really working well, i think nowdays ribery is more injury prone than robben
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    Post by bluenine Sun Feb 13, 2011 12:09 pm

    d gorgeous one haz spoken wrote:Robben is back, what a game that was against Hoffeheim for him. It's 50/50 now I think against Inter.
    This is going to be a goal fest, end to end football decided by who converts more chances... it is unfortumate that Milito is injured and Pazzini cup tied, I think without a CF we will not score enough goals and this is what gives Bayern an upper hand... Robben, Ribery & Co will be able to walk over our defence at will, and while Inter may be able to do the same on the other end, we won't have a CF to finish our chances. And like I said, this is a game about finishing percentages...
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    Post by Allez les rouges Tue Feb 15, 2011 11:23 am

    "Sneijd'or is in the form of his life, scoring (belters!) consecutively in his 3 games after being back from injury. Bayern had the upperhand, but now that Benitez has gone I think Inter are clear favourites."

    "Robben is back, what a game that was against Hoffeheim for him. It's 50/50 now I think against Inter."

    So this tie revolves exclusively around the Dutchies? scratch Laugh

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    Post by bluenine Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:44 am

    Allez les rouges wrote:"Robben is back, what a game that was against Hoffeheim for him. It's 50/50 now I think against Inter."
    Unfortunately, I think Bayern are clear favourites for this one. This game really scares me, both teams ve awesome attacks and poor defences. If we had someone like Mou who could ve organised our defence, we would be clear favourites over 2 legs with an effective counter atttack strategy to exploit Bayern's weak defence. But with Leo & his leaky defence, its now about who can outscore whom... and with Milito and Pazzini unavailable, I am afraid Bayern should be able to outscore us. Specially with the 2nd leg in Munich.

    This is where Leo's inexperience is going to cost us. I see very little hope.... I pray I am wrong, but looks like over the two legs, we are going to lose this one.
    IMO Bayern 75% - 25% Inter
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    Post by Allez les rouges Fri Feb 18, 2011 12:25 pm

    This one is fecking annoying because the Berlin Philharmonic and Simon Rattle are in London next week, but have to watch this one... Grr
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    Post by abundance Fri Feb 18, 2011 12:31 pm

    bluenine wrote:
    IMO Bayern 75% - 25% Inter

    IMHO the percents are a bit more even technically, but if I add up motivations I end up as scared as Bluey.
    We have no revenge to take and if we lose we can walk out saying we're still in contention for the league.
    For Bayern it's a season-tipping moment instead.


    Actually, I'm relieved we have no Pazzini and Milito and Pandev is off form.
    I fear Leonardo would've gone for a 4312 diamond if he had two strikers available.

    With that module, we basically pull out the feat of having no width & no central cover for CBs at the same time (let alone that we tend to stretch the lines too much).

    With a single striker, Leonardo will have to shuffle the positions in a way that hopefully cover the space better for us.


    If it was me, I'd try something a bit experimental like a headless 451 with Sneijder as a false nine, but this is too "spallettian" and convoluted for Leo:

    Cesar
    Maicon Ranocchia Lucio Zanetti
    Motta Cambiasso
    Stankovic
            Eto'o                  Nagatomo
    Sneijder



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    Post by bluenine Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:47 am

    abundance wrote:
    bluenine wrote:
    IMO Bayern 75% - 25% Inter

    IMHO the percents are a bit more even technically, but if I add up motivations I end up as scared as Bluey.
    We have no revenge to take and if we lose we can walk out saying we're still in contention for the league.
    For Bayern it's a season-tipping moment instead.


    Actually, I'm relieved we have no Pazzini and Milito and Pandev is off form.
    I fear Leonardo would've gone for a 4312 diamond if he had two strikers available.
    So what makes you so sure that Leo will not go for a 4312 diamond even without Milito & Pazzini? I have a bad feeling he will do just that, with Eto'o & Pandev upfront!

    Maybe I don't give Leo enough credit, but he is tactically so limited. If he starts Motta in the centre and Cambiasso on the wings one more time, I am going to go to Milan and personally kick his butt!


    abundance wrote:If it was me, I'd try something a bit experimental like a headless 451 with Sneijder as a false nine, but this is too "spallettian" and convoluted for Leo:

    Cesar
    Maicon Ranocchia Lucio Zanetti
    Motta Cambiasso
    Stankovic
    Eto'o Nagatomo
    Sneijder
    Thats a bit too much for Leo... I would be happy if he just manages to get the teamsheet right:

    Cesar
    Maicon - Ranocchia - Lucio - Zanetti
    Motta - Cambiasso
    Stankovic - Sneijder - Nagatomo
    Eto'o
    I don't mind even if Pandev or Coutinho start above Nagatomo, but the rest 10 should start.... at least this way we will go down fighting...
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    Post by Kroos Sun Feb 20, 2011 11:46 am

    all players fit, kroos played 30 min, have my doubts hes that ready to start against inter, pranjic and the complete defence is an utter weak point

    inter have some dirty smart contes in the team, they can hurt us

    --------------------------------kraft

    lahm------badstuber---tymo------gustavo

    ------schweini-----kroos/pranjic

    robben------müller-----------ribery

    ------------gomez

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    Post by Effenberg Sun Feb 20, 2011 3:04 pm

    Kraft and Gomez are doubtful for the first leg. Gomez more so than Kraft, apparently. Klose is a good replacement, of course, but Gomez is having quite the run and would be the better option.
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    Post by Isco Benny Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:58 pm

    That looks like a very strong Bayern side. Gomez has been on fire this season, his fitness will be important.

    Going to try and catch this tie, should be a good game.

    Will be keeping a close look out for Kroos' performance, and subject his performance with the type of critical eye that Kroos (the poster) likes to cast upon all player who aren't German / play in Germany Laughing
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    Post by Effenberg Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:11 pm

    Gomez can play. Kroos will probably not start. He just came back from injury and got about 20mins on the weekend.
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    Post by bluenine Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:46 pm

    Effenberg wrote:Gomez can play. Kroos will probably not start. He just came back from injury and got about 20mins on the weekend.
    Damn, I wish Milito was fit, or Pazzini available. If one of them and Samuel were available, this game could ve been very interesting indeed.

    Anyways, we can always hope... Stank is back, and the midget/lucio may also be fit. There is some talk that Leo might actually try the 4231, after experimenting with it during the weekend. For me, that is probably a better formation in this circumstance than the 4312 diamond.

    I hope we start Zanetti at LB, not Chivu... coz Robben will eat Chivu up. I would be more than happy with a 0-0 here, though that is so unlikely considering the defences in question.



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    Post by bluenine Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:11 am

    Expected line up:

    Cesar
    Maicon - Lucio - Cordoba - Chivu
    Zanetti - Cambiasso - Motta
    Sneijder - Stankovic
    Eto’o

    Not sure why Leo wants to try out a new formation in a big game, but then its better than our usual formation given the ciurcumtances.

    I don't like the fact that Cordoba may start over Ranocchia, perhaps its coz Leo feels the frog & Lucio may not be that compatible as they are similar. But the biggest concern I have with this line up is Chivu at LB, Robben will literally fry him... I would have prefered Zanetti at LB, and Kharja at Zanetti's midfield position.

    Apart from these two changes, this probably is our strongest line up from the available players. We are going to miss Milito/Pazzini and Sameul a lot in this tie.
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    Post by Kroos Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:30 am

    average age of tonights probably starting 11

    bayern 25.3 (with pranjic, without kroos)
    inter 30.7 (the latest line up from blue)


    ok we should have some advantages in terms of facking running Very Happy
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    Post by Kroos Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:56 am

    Noah and the Bale wrote:That looks like a very strong Bayern side. Gomez has been on fire this season, his fitness will be important.

    Going to try and catch this tie, should be a good game.

    Will be keeping a close look out for Kroos' performance, and subject his performance with the type of critical eye that Kroos (the poster) likes to cast upon all player who aren't German / play in Germany Laughing


    i would appreciate that cheers tongue

    no kroos is coming back from injury, and it looks like he will only play in 2nd half (ok already making excuses Laughing )

    i rate kroos much higher than özil, because he is an complete package of an midfielder (ok put some pressure on him right now Very Happy)
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    Post by bluenine Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:35 pm

    Kroos wrote:average age of tonights probably starting 11

    bayern 25.3 (with pranjic, without kroos)
    inter 30.7 (the latest line up from blue)

    ok we should have some advantages in terms of facking running Very Happy
    The midget brings our average age crashing down, that lil kid...

    Its very easy for a good attacking team like Bayern to beat Inter.... all you have to do is sacrifice Schweini to mark out Sneijder, and tell Ribery to play further upfront than usual... Thats will neutralise most of our goal-assisting threat. Then all you have to worry about is individual brilliance from Eto'o or Stank, which you have easily outscore. Van Gaal is too clever a coach to miss this trick, and thats why I am not expecting Inter to go through to the quarters.
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    Post by Kroos Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:49 pm

    ok i smell your fear, but dont feel too worried, the fear is here in germany too

    your line up looks pretty strong, but we know INTER is not that compact in defence, and we know that leo has won 10 games from 11 or something like that, i would be really happy with a draw tonight, i am not convinced in our team, they played too inconsistent this season

    i mean our defence is shit, our central midfield is weak, against zanetti-cambiasso and snjeider schweini wont have a chance
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    Post by Forza Italia!Forza Milan! Wed Feb 23, 2011 3:46 pm

    I have to agree with Blue. In the Final last year, I had no doubt that Inter would prevail. Today, I only see Bayern winning.
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    Post by Cesc Soler Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:58 pm

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    Post by fcb Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:58 pm

    Inter and Bayern line up as expected.

    Man. Utd's midfield is Gibson-Fletcher-Carrick lol! lol! lol!
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    Post by bluenine Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:08 pm

    final line-ups

    1 Julio Cesar; 13 Maicon, 6 Lucio, 15 Ranocchia, 26 Chivu; 4 Zanetti, 8 Thiago Motta, 19 Cambiasso; 5 Stankovic, 10 Sneijder; 9 Eto'o.
    Subs: 12 Castellazzi, 14 Kharja, 17 Mariga, 23 Materazzi, 27 Pandev, 55 Nagatomo, 29 Coutinho,
    Coach: Leonardo

    Bayern Munich: 35 Kraft; 21 Lahm, 44 Tymoshchuk, 28 Badstuber, 23 Pranjic; 30 Gustavo, 31 Schweinsteiger; 10 Robben, 25 Muller, 7 Ribery; 33 Gomez.
    Subs: 1 Butt, 2 Breno, 5 Van Buyten,16 Ottl, 8 Altintop, 39 Kroos, 18 Klose.
    Coach: Luis Van Gaal.

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    Post by bluenine Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:25 pm

    The way the above line up is written, looks like its Motta at the centre and Cambiasso at the wing.... I am pissed, angry, mad angry. You fuckin idiot Leo Evil or Very Mad
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