Euro 2012 seedings

it looks like the Fifa rankings determine the group seedings for Euro 2012

in other words

Holland and Spain being AHEAD of Germany, for instance, MATTERS big time

there will be four groups with four countries each

Poland and the Ukraine top their group and , as it stands now, Holland and Spain would top the other

it's therefore possible that Germany (or England) could end up in a group with Spain, France and Portugal



http://www.sport1.de/de/fussball/fussball_em/newspage_449253.html

Germans really should stop talking about Spain as their only rival for the title

they could be out in the second round already

Well thats the same situation as in 2008 were we could have ended up in the netherlands/france/italy group instead of italy.

Two weak hosts are always depressing, but whatever. Just win all games and get the thing.

Have Germany ever been drawn in a tough group?

Last/only one I can think of is 2004.

They rarely end up in the group of death. No reason to worry Ottolein

Antarion wrote:Well thats the same situation as in 2008 were we could have ended up in the netherlands/france/italy group instead of italy.

Two weak hosts are always depressing, but whatever. Just win all games and get the thing.

But in the end of the day that group had some spectacular games

Netherlands -Italy 3-0 and Netherlands - France 4-1

Ricardo Jol wrote:

Antarion wrote:Well thats the same situation as in 2008 were we could have ended up in the netherlands/france/italy group instead of italy.

Two weak hosts are always depressing, but whatever. Just win all games and get the thing.

But in the end of the day that group had some spectacular games

Netherlands -Italy 3-0 and Netherlands - France 4-1

But now imagine it with Germany

Netherlands - Germany 0-3

Would have also been spectacular


But for real, the only thing that should change ist the A vs B and C vs D mixing until the final. Thats really bad and makes it more like two small tournaments where the winner of each play the final.

Noah und der Bale wrote:Have Germany ever been drawn in a tough group?

Last/only one I can think of is 2004.

They rarely end up in the group of death. No reason to worry Ottolein

Last world cup was fairly tough, as world cup groups go - Ghana, Australia, Serbia..

And there's Euro 2000 of course..

Antarion wrote:

Ricardo Jol wrote:

Antarion wrote:Well thats the same situation as in 2008 were we could have ended up in the netherlands/france/italy group instead of italy.

Two weak hosts are always depressing, but whatever. Just win all games and get the thing.

But in the end of the day that group had some spectacular games

Netherlands -Italy 3-0 and Netherlands - France 4-1

But now imagine it with Germany

Netherlands - Germany 0-3

Would have also been spectacular


But for real, the only thing that should change ist the A vs B and C vs D mixing until the final. Thats really bad and makes it more like two small tournaments where the winner of each play the final.

They doing that again for 2012?

Antarion wrote:

Ricardo Jol wrote:

Antarion wrote:Well thats the same situation as in 2008 were we could have ended up in the netherlands/france/italy group instead of italy.

Two weak hosts are always depressing, but whatever. Just win all games and get the thing.

But in the end of the day that group had some spectacular games

Netherlands -Italy 3-0 and Netherlands - France 4-1

But now imagine it with Germany

Netherlands - Germany 0-3

Would have also been spectacular

And then in the final it'll be Netherlands - Germany 5-1

debaser wrote:

Antarion wrote:

Ricardo Jol wrote:

Antarion wrote:Well thats the same situation as in 2008 were we could have ended up in the netherlands/france/italy group instead of italy.

Two weak hosts are always depressing, but whatever. Just win all games and get the thing.

But in the end of the day that group had some spectacular games

Netherlands -Italy 3-0 and Netherlands - France 4-1

But now imagine it with Germany

Netherlands - Germany 0-3

Would have also been spectacular


But for real, the only thing that should change ist the A vs B and C vs D mixing until the final. Thats really bad and makes it more like two small tournaments where the winner of each play the final.

They doing that again for 2012?

I don't know buti'm prepared for the worst

Ricardo Jol wrote:

Antarion wrote:

Ricardo Jol wrote:

Antarion wrote:Well thats the same situation as in 2008 were we could have ended up in the netherlands/france/italy group instead of italy.

Two weak hosts are always depressing, but whatever. Just win all games and get the thing.

But in the end of the day that group had some spectacular games

Netherlands -Italy 3-0 and Netherlands - France 4-1

But now imagine it with Germany

Netherlands - Germany 0-3

Would have also been spectacular

And then in the final it'll be Netherlands - Germany 5-1

See Ric, thats the problem with UFEA mixing, we couldn't meet in the final if we where in the same group! So dumb

Antarion wrote:

debaser wrote:

Antarion wrote:

Ricardo Jol wrote:

Antarion wrote:Well thats the same situation as in 2008 were we could have ended up in the netherlands/france/italy group instead of italy.

Two weak hosts are always depressing, but whatever. Just win all games and get the thing.

But in the end of the day that group had some spectacular games

Netherlands -Italy 3-0 and Netherlands - France 4-1

But now imagine it with Germany

Netherlands - Germany 0-3

Would have also been spectacular


But for real, the only thing that should change ist the A vs B and C vs D mixing until the final. Thats really bad and makes it more like two small tournaments where the winner of each play the final.

They doing that again for 2012?

I don't know buti'm prepared for the worst

Ricardo Jol wrote:

Antarion wrote:

Ricardo Jol wrote:

Antarion wrote:Well thats the same situation as in 2008 were we could have ended up in the netherlands/france/italy group instead of italy.

Two weak hosts are always depressing, but whatever. Just win all games and get the thing.

But in the end of the day that group had some spectacular games

Netherlands -Italy 3-0 and Netherlands - France 4-1

But now imagine it with Germany

Netherlands - Germany 0-3

Would have also been spectacular

And then in the final it'll be Netherlands - Germany 5-1

See Ric, thats the problem with UFEA mixing, we couldn't meet in the final if we where in the same group! So dumb

If those rules are the same as at euro 2008 it is wacko indeed.

http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Download/Publications/competitions/Publications/01/54/34/12/1543412_DOWNLOAD.pdf

Looks good

If i'm reading it right, they changed the rules

You're right

So...basically there is a 50% chance of Germany drawing Poland or Ukraine...

As for England in the second tier, they are even more shite in the Euros then in the WC! Which says something!