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2011/12 UEFA Champions League - Semifinals 1st & 2nd Leg
Isco Benny- Number of posts : 19647
Age : 44
Supports : Spurs, FOLLOWS (just for worms): Werder Bremen, Lazio, Ferencvaros, Valencia, El Classico, Angleterre, Magyarorszag
Favourite Player : Don't cha wish your left back was BAE? Don't cha
Registration date : 2006-08-08
Have you tried cross referencing stats with football manager to strengthen your argument further?
worms.- Number of posts : 5010
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Favourite Player : Goldado,Zlatan,Robben aka The Bald Prince, Busquets has now won the Euro's x1, World Cup x1, La Liga x3, UCL x2, Coppa DR x2, UEFA SC x2, Club World Cup x2. At the age of 23
Registration date : 2011-12-07
Disco Benny wrote:Have you tried cross referencing stats with football manager to strengthen your argument further?
Stats on PES database are decided by dozens of master stat makers who really know their stuff,I should know as I post on there.Again half the people who post there don't even play the game they just like to give players realistic stats so they can compare players.
If you visit there and look at a few similar players sets and compare them you will see the stats are very accurate.
Isco Benny- Number of posts : 19647
Age : 44
Supports : Spurs, FOLLOWS (just for worms): Werder Bremen, Lazio, Ferencvaros, Valencia, El Classico, Angleterre, Magyarorszag
Favourite Player : Don't cha wish your left back was BAE? Don't cha
Registration date : 2006-08-08
So they base their stats on posts from utterly unbiased parties such as your good self, who in no way is affected by certain agendas that could easily distort the figures you provide? Sounds fool proof
worms.- Number of posts : 5010
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Favourite Player : Goldado,Zlatan,Robben aka The Bald Prince, Busquets has now won the Euro's x1, World Cup x1, La Liga x3, UCL x2, Coppa DR x2, UEFA SC x2, Club World Cup x2. At the age of 23
Registration date : 2011-12-07
Na it's not just Chelsea fans who post about Chelsea players etc.It doesn't work like that,the majority of posters in a certain section of the forum have to agree on something like tweaking certain stats.
You're just mad because Ibrahimovic has a higher technique rating than your loverboy Van Persie on the site
You're just mad because Ibrahimovic has a higher technique rating than your loverboy Van Persie on the site
Isco Benny- Number of posts : 19647
Age : 44
Supports : Spurs, FOLLOWS (just for worms): Werder Bremen, Lazio, Ferencvaros, Valencia, El Classico, Angleterre, Magyarorszag
Favourite Player : Don't cha wish your left back was BAE? Don't cha
Registration date : 2006-08-08
Yep I'm absolutely fuming about that given how much I care about RVP because he plays for us (arsenal) and not us (spurs)
S4P- Number of posts : 14358
Age : 44
Supports : Chelsea
Registration date : 2007-03-24
The fact they gave Essien a 77 and Mikel an 84 for dribbling accuracy alone tells you that they have either seen very little of Chelsea, or there is a clear agenda.
By the way, Rooney has a higher FIFA rating than Ibrahimovic, so is clearly a better player. The creators of FIFA obviously came to an agreement on this.
By the way, Rooney has a higher FIFA rating than Ibrahimovic, so is clearly a better player. The creators of FIFA obviously came to an agreement on this.
fcb- Number of posts : 40471
Age : 113
Supports : FC Barcelona
Registration date : 2006-08-11
How the fuck do they decide on '77' or '84' for dribbling accuracy anyway? It's inaccurate enough doing ratings out of 10 for players in a match, but now they are rating individual skills out of 100?
Is there any basis to this? ie. if a player can do one type of dribble, that's 10 points. If he can do another, harder type of dribble, that's 20 points. Against tough opposition regularly, another 5 points. And so on.
Or is it all subjective bullshit on the basis of opinions?
Is there any basis to this? ie. if a player can do one type of dribble, that's 10 points. If he can do another, harder type of dribble, that's 20 points. Against tough opposition regularly, another 5 points. And so on.
Or is it all subjective bullshit on the basis of opinions?
Cristiano- Number of posts : 2557
Age : 41
Supports : Real Madrid
Favourite Player : Zidane, Sergio Ramos, Casillas, Ozil, David Silva, Guti, Hierro, Valeron, Pirlo,
Registration date : 2007-01-09
I can't believe we are actually judging people on Pro Evo stats, has it really come down to this.
Deluded F*ck™- Number of posts : 21765
Age : 38
Supports : The Lilywhites from N17
Favourite Player : The Hurrikane - he's on of our own!
Registration date : 2006-08-07
Cristiano wrote:I can't believe we are actually judging people on Pro Evo stats, has it really come down to this.
TITO- Number of posts : 3155
Age : 49
Registration date : 2006-08-07
I said earlier, it's all Worm's fault and his lack of sex!
And you are getting vacuumed in these "can't get it" discussions.
And you are getting vacuumed in these "can't get it" discussions.
S4P- Number of posts : 14358
Age : 44
Supports : Chelsea
Registration date : 2007-03-24
Cristiano wrote:I can't believe we are actually judging people on Pro Evo stats, has it really come down to this.
No need for "we". It's worms whose basing his argument of Mikel being technically better than Essien on this.
Jaime- Number of posts : 32027
Age : 46
Supports : Real Madrid CF
Favourite Player : Butragueño, Redondo, Raúl, Guti, Casillas, Sergio Ramos, Isco, Carvajal
Registration date : 2006-08-08
I'll have a little of this tonight, please.
Super Progress- Number of posts : 15429
Age : 35
Supports : Real Madrid + Mierda inchada en un palo
Favourite Player : Laudrup,Cassano,Totti, Zidane,Marcelo, Pepe!,Guti, PROGRESS
Registration date : 2006-08-07
Deluded F*ck wrote:Cristiano wrote:I can't believe we are actually judging people on Pro Evo stats, has it really come down to this.
Anybody who engages Worms is to blame to be honest. And considering so many still get into it with him I can only conclude that people actually thinks it is fun.
Fey- Number of posts : 35349
Supports : Feyenoord and Manchester United
Favourite Player : ??#$ Error, John Guidetti, Jordy Clasie
Registration date : 2006-08-07
Jaime wrote:Good to see that Beckenbaur and Hoeness are in full on c*nt mode. There aren't as many real live c*nts in the current Bayern squad as back in the good old days so we need someone to stir the fire a little.
According to Beckenbauer the reason why Mueller is shite this year is....van Gaal
Germans
worms.- Number of posts : 5010
Supports : BALENCE, PROGRESS, Us(Liverpool), Us(Barcelona) ,Us(Lazio), Us(Napoli), Us(Athletic Club), Us(Valencia), Us(Zenit St Petersburg), Us(Russia), Us(Uruguay), Us(España)!
Favourite Player : Goldado,Zlatan,Robben aka The Bald Prince, Busquets has now won the Euro's x1, World Cup x1, La Liga x3, UCL x2, Coppa DR x2, UEFA SC x2, Club World Cup x2. At the age of 23
Registration date : 2011-12-07
S4P wrote:The fact they gave Essien a 77 and Mikel an 84 for dribbling accuracy alone tells you that they have either seen very little of Chelsea, or there is a clear agenda.
By the way, Rooney has a higher FIFA rating than Ibrahimovic, so is clearly a better player. The creators of FIFA obviously came to an agreement on this.
That's because Rooney is on the cover,what do you expect? Players who sponsor not just Fifa but nearly all Sports game get made better than they are in real life.
I still prefer Ibra than Rooney on Fifa anyway,the overall number isn't the be all and end all.
worms.- Number of posts : 5010
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Favourite Player : Goldado,Zlatan,Robben aka The Bald Prince, Busquets has now won the Euro's x1, World Cup x1, La Liga x3, UCL x2, Coppa DR x2, UEFA SC x2, Club World Cup x2. At the age of 23
Registration date : 2011-12-07
fcb wrote:How the fuck do they decide on '77' or '84' for dribbling accuracy anyway? It's inaccurate enough doing ratings out of 10 for players in a match, but now they are rating individual skills out of 100?
Is there any basis to this? ie. if a player can do one type of dribble, that's 10 points. If he can do another, harder type of dribble, that's 20 points. Against tough opposition regularly, another 5 points. And so on.
Or is it all subjective bullshit on the basis of opinions?
They compare them to the thousands of other players on the database,that way they can get an exact number.
worms.- Number of posts : 5010
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Favourite Player : Goldado,Zlatan,Robben aka The Bald Prince, Busquets has now won the Euro's x1, World Cup x1, La Liga x3, UCL x2, Coppa DR x2, UEFA SC x2, Club World Cup x2. At the age of 23
Registration date : 2011-12-07
TITO wrote:I said earlier, it's all Worm's fault and his lack of sex!
And you are getting vacuumed in these "can't get it" discussions.
Shut up bro I have sex with my right hand all the time you virgin.
Jaime- Number of posts : 32027
Age : 46
Supports : Real Madrid CF
Favourite Player : Butragueño, Redondo, Raúl, Guti, Casillas, Sergio Ramos, Isco, Carvajal
Registration date : 2006-08-08
Fey wrote:Jaime wrote:Good to see that Beckenbaur and Hoeness are in full on c*nt mode. There aren't as many real live c*nts in the current Bayern squad as back in the good old days so we need someone to stir the fire a little.
According to Beckenbauer the reason why Mueller is shite this year is....van Gaal
Germans
Typical.
The Easter Bunny- Number of posts : 8563
Age : 32
Supports : Cambridge
Favourite Player : Pitt, Potter, Wilkshire, Carden and Larsson
Registration date : 2006-08-06
http://pesstatsdatabase.com/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=2221
Ricardo Fuller is a specialist dribbler
Ricardo Fuller is a specialist dribbler
worms.- Number of posts : 5010
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Favourite Player : Goldado,Zlatan,Robben aka The Bald Prince, Busquets has now won the Euro's x1, World Cup x1, La Liga x3, UCL x2, Coppa DR x2, UEFA SC x2, Club World Cup x2. At the age of 23
Registration date : 2011-12-07
The Easter Bunny wrote:http://pesstatsdatabase.com/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=2221
Ricardo Fuller is a specialist dribbler
85 dribbling accuracy is not what I would class as a "specialist dribbler",he's only 1 point above Mikel.
worms.- Number of posts : 5010
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Favourite Player : Goldado,Zlatan,Robben aka The Bald Prince, Busquets has now won the Euro's x1, World Cup x1, La Liga x3, UCL x2, Coppa DR x2, UEFA SC x2, Club World Cup x2. At the age of 23
Registration date : 2011-12-07
Tonight I think the game could be won or lost on the wings.It will be:
Robben and Lahm vs Ronaldo and Coentrao
and
Alaba and Ribery vs Di Maira and Arbeloa
Pretty evenly matched,both Ronaldo and Robben don't do much defensively so the team who is most willing to push their fullback up the pitch and create a 2 on 1 situation could create chances and it would help dominate possession,on the other hand by doing this they could get counter attacked but I think it's a chance Bayern have to take as they're playing at home.It's important Lahm get forward to take away Coentrao so Robben can cut inside and reek havoc.I'm sure Mourinho will tell his DM's to sit close to the defense to defend against this.
On the other side Ribery and especially Di Maria are hard working so maybe their will be less of an advantage to gain here but Alaba is much better attacking than Arbeloa and he looks really fast and dangerous so Di Maria will have to track his runs.I think this side of the pitch will be less critical in the match as both side will cancel each other out.
I'm still not convinced about Bayerns defense they look pretty dodgy to me,even when they play good they don't give me confidence for some reason but Real have been pretty poor lately and look tired.Plus they have been missing chances but they will have to be clinical tonight.
It will be really interesting to see this Real team play another top side other than us,they have yet to prove they are a great side.
Madrids records against the top 5 in Spain is 5W 4D 4L this season. Madrid first big test of the CL season. Over 2 legs I think Bayern will slip through.
My prediction is 1 - 1 and Madrid to get to the final.
Robben and Lahm vs Ronaldo and Coentrao
and
Alaba and Ribery vs Di Maira and Arbeloa
Pretty evenly matched,both Ronaldo and Robben don't do much defensively so the team who is most willing to push their fullback up the pitch and create a 2 on 1 situation could create chances and it would help dominate possession,on the other hand by doing this they could get counter attacked but I think it's a chance Bayern have to take as they're playing at home.It's important Lahm get forward to take away Coentrao so Robben can cut inside and reek havoc.I'm sure Mourinho will tell his DM's to sit close to the defense to defend against this.
On the other side Ribery and especially Di Maria are hard working so maybe their will be less of an advantage to gain here but Alaba is much better attacking than Arbeloa and he looks really fast and dangerous so Di Maria will have to track his runs.I think this side of the pitch will be less critical in the match as both side will cancel each other out.
I'm still not convinced about Bayerns defense they look pretty dodgy to me,even when they play good they don't give me confidence for some reason but Real have been pretty poor lately and look tired.Plus they have been missing chances but they will have to be clinical tonight.
It will be really interesting to see this Real team play another top side other than us,they have yet to prove they are a great side.
Madrids records against the top 5 in Spain is 5W 4D 4L this season. Madrid first big test of the CL season. Over 2 legs I think Bayern will slip through.
My prediction is 1 - 1 and Madrid to get to the final.
Cristiano- Number of posts : 2557
Age : 41
Supports : Real Madrid
Favourite Player : Zidane, Sergio Ramos, Casillas, Ozil, David Silva, Guti, Hierro, Valeron, Pirlo,
Registration date : 2007-01-09
Super Pepe wrote:Deluded F*ck wrote:Cristiano wrote:I can't believe we are actually judging people on Pro Evo stats, has it really come down to this.
Anybody who engages Worms is to blame to be honest. And considering so many still get into it with him I can only conclude that people actually thinks it is fun.
The Pro Evo comment should have just been ignored. Like you say no need to engage in that.
On pro Evo you could shoot from anywhere with Adriano and the ball goes in
The Easter Bunny- Number of posts : 8563
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Registration date : 2006-08-06
Més que un club wrote:The Easter Bunny wrote:http://pesstatsdatabase.com/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=2221
Ricardo Fuller is a specialist dribbler
85 dribbling accuracy is not what I would class as a "specialist dribbler",he's only 1 point above Mikel.
SPECIAL ABILITIES:
★ Dribbling
★ Tactical Dribble
★ Side
Fuller
Isco Benny- Number of posts : 19647
Age : 44
Supports : Spurs, FOLLOWS (just for worms): Werder Bremen, Lazio, Ferencvaros, Valencia, El Classico, Angleterre, Magyarorszag
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Registration date : 2006-08-08
Super Pepe wrote:Deluded F*ck wrote:Cristiano wrote:I can't believe we are actually judging people on Pro Evo stats, has it really come down to this.
Anybody who engages Worms is to blame to be honest. And considering so many still get into it with him I can only conclude that people actually thinks it is fun.
fcb- Number of posts : 40471
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Supports : FC Barcelona
Registration date : 2006-08-11
Sadly I think Madrid will get a score draw tonight and then win at home.
S4P- Number of posts : 14358
Age : 44
Supports : Chelsea
Registration date : 2007-03-24
Super Pepe wrote:Deluded F*ck wrote:Cristiano wrote:I can't believe we are actually judging people on Pro Evo stats, has it really come down to this.
Anybody who engages Worms is to blame to be honest. And considering so many still get into it with him I can only conclude that people actually thinks it is fun.
I thought that was quite apparent (and as Bernd says, a guilty pleasure for most).
Cristiano- Number of posts : 2557
Age : 41
Supports : Real Madrid
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Registration date : 2007-01-09
Good to know people don't actually take his nonesense seriously
Jaime- Number of posts : 32027
Age : 46
Supports : Real Madrid CF
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Registration date : 2006-08-08
fcb wrote:Sadly I think Madrid will get a score draw tonight and then win at home.
Our record against Bayern in Munich would suggest that is not likely. I will be happy with a 2-1 going back to the Bernabeu.
Super Progress- Number of posts : 15429
Age : 35
Supports : Real Madrid + Mierda inchada en un palo
Favourite Player : Laudrup,Cassano,Totti, Zidane,Marcelo, Pepe!,Guti, PROGRESS
Registration date : 2006-08-07
Yeah if they are being truthful. If I remember correctly TRWP was considering leaving the forum because of the wumming of Worms and others were complaining as well about Worms. If it is all in fun then I hope people will stop whining about him.Cristiano wrote:Good to know people don't actually take his nonesense serious
Adriano on PES was awesome and Realistically portrayed btw. He is one of my legends.
Super Progress- Number of posts : 15429
Age : 35
Supports : Real Madrid + Mierda inchada en un palo
Favourite Player : Laudrup,Cassano,Totti, Zidane,Marcelo, Pepe!,Guti, PROGRESS
Registration date : 2006-08-07
Soak up pressure
Hit on the counter
Really quite simple and hopefully we will follow it. We need Di Maria to help on the wing and Ozil will have to sit on the bench because it is more important that we cut off the flanks than the middle. Unless Mou goes with the normal Ronaldo-Ozil-Di Maria which would be too much. Ronaldo won't help out on the left so we need a third midfielder to help Marcelo/Coentrao since we can't rely on Ronaldo and if we simply play a double pivot there will be space for Robben/Ribery to cut in to and for Muller/Kroos.
Hit on the counter
Really quite simple and hopefully we will follow it. We need Di Maria to help on the wing and Ozil will have to sit on the bench because it is more important that we cut off the flanks than the middle. Unless Mou goes with the normal Ronaldo-Ozil-Di Maria which would be too much. Ronaldo won't help out on the left so we need a third midfielder to help Marcelo/Coentrao since we can't rely on Ronaldo and if we simply play a double pivot there will be space for Robben/Ribery to cut in to and for Muller/Kroos.
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