Euro 2012 Referees

Not sure if this has been reported much but two referees were sent home over their performances in the tournament. They are the Spaniard who made a pig's ear of Greece v Poland (sent home pretty quck) and the ref in England v Ukraine.

Who else do you think should have been sent home and why? I think that Eriksson should have gone for that ridiculous booking of Giorgos Karagounis against Russia. There's no way that he dived. Contact was proved by replays as well. That put Karagounis - the Man of the Match and Greece's best player overall out of the quarter-final against Germany and they surely needed him. Whether it would have made the difference is moot, but best players should play, especially in circumstances like this - an outrageous card and there should have been consequences over it.

Karagounisislegend#legend

The refereeing in this tournament has been really really good IMO. Not just an absence of major errors (apart from the Ukraine 'goal' of course), but most refs have generally let the games flow.

fcb wrote:The refereeing in this tournament has been really really good IMO. Not just an absence of major errors (apart from the Ukraine 'goal' of course), but most refs have generally let the games flow.

Hmmm. You don't consider the sending off of Sokratis against Poland to be a major error, or the booking of Karagounis to have been major errors. Both missed the following match as a result. Also Howard Webb's refusal to even penalise Pepe for hauling back Petr Jiracek, let alone book him for a blatant foul. I'm all for letting games flow, but Webb takes it too far and he ends up making inconsistent decisions and losing control of matches.

No penalties awarded to Croatia, Denmark against Spain, Germany. No wonder it was all swept under the carpet as it's against favorites.

Reffing's been decent in general, after an awful start where the ref ruined first match. Yes there are a few bad decisions (Ukraine non-goal, Karagounis yellow & the failure to give penalties that should have KO'd Germany & Spain) but not too many games where you can say ref made decisions which significantly altered the result.

Refreshingly few red cards..

fcb wrote:The refereeing in this tournament has been really really good IMO. Not just an absence of major errors (apart from the Ukraine 'goal' of course), but most refs have generally let the games flow.

I noticed this too,there is always going to be mistakes in every tournament but at least the referees aren't trying to take center stage and are letting the football do the talking.

Fade out wrote:No penalties awarded to Croatia, Denmark against Spain, Germany. No wonder it was all swept under the carpet as it's against favorites.

debaser wrote:Reffing's been decent in general, after an awful start where the ref ruined first match. Yes there are a few bad decisions (Ukraine non-goal, Karagounis yellow & the failure to give penalties that should have KO'd Germany & Spain) but not too many games where you can say ref made decisions which significantly altered the result.

Refreshingly few red cards..

Was the referee specifically from the Ukraine-England game punished, or was it his refereeing team as a whole? From what I remember of the goal it doesn't seem fair to apportion blame to the referee; it was the linesman who messed up a simple offside call, and then the assistant behind the goal who messed up the goal-line issue. In both cases he had to put faith in their decisions.

Sheffield gunner wrote:

debaser wrote:Reffing's been decent in general, after an awful start where the ref ruined first match. Yes there are a few bad decisions (Ukraine non-goal, Karagounis yellow & the failure to give penalties that should have KO'd Germany & Spain) but not too many games where you can say ref made decisions which significantly altered the result.

Refreshingly few red cards..

Was the referee specifically from the Ukraine-England game punished, or was it his refereeing team as a whole? From what I remember of the goal it doesn't seem fair to apportion blame to the referee; it was the linesman who messed up a simple offside call, and then the assistant behind the goal who messed up the goal-line issue. In both cases he had to put faith in their decisions.

As far as I know just the referee. I'll check with UEFA on Thursday and let you know then. I'm taking it easy in Hel until then. Lovely beach here, but it was brass monkeys today. One step away from Hel freezing over.

EMP talks to Mr Platini?

Super Balanced wrote:EMP talks to Mr Platini?

Piss off you moron. I said I'd ask UEFA not Platini you cretinous turd. I have access to media information, meaning I can ask them and I will get an answer. You really are an ignorant arsehole.

Sheffield gunner wrote:

Was the referee specifically from the Ukraine-England game punished, or was it his refereeing team as a whole? From what I remember of the goal it doesn't seem fair to apportion blame to the referee; it was the linesman who messed up a simple offside call, and then the assistant behind the goal who messed up the goal-line issue. In both cases he had to put faith in their decisions.

Sir

do you remember a few years ago when I gave you $15 to wash my car?

you brought your mates Steve and Dan to help, and did a sloppy job as I recall.

When I confronted you about the quality of your work, you blamed Dan.

I tried to explain to you then about accountability.

YOU chose Steve and Dan.

I hired YOU.

YOU are accountable.

That is why you will NEVER referee at a major international tournament.

And if I have my way, NEITHER WILL STEVE OR DAN

Super Balanced wrote:EMP talks to Mr Platini?

EMP has high tea with Mr. Platini

W0rms II wrote:

Super Balanced wrote:EMP talks to Mr Platini?

EMP has high tea with Mr. Platini

Grow up you pathetic infantile delinquent.

EMP wrote:

W0rms II wrote:

Super Balanced wrote:EMP talks to Mr Platini?

EMP has high tea with Mr. Platini

Grow up you pathetic infantile delinquent.

i think it's time for you to grow up you stupid pharo!

W0rms II wrote:

EMP wrote:

W0rms II wrote:

Super Balanced wrote:EMP talks to Mr Platini?

EMP has high tea with Mr. Platini

Grow up you pathetic infantile delinquent.

i think it's time for you to grow up you stupid pharo!

I never said I was going to talk to Platini you cretinous fuckwit. Obviously you cannot understand simple English. I'm done wasting time on you.

EMP wrote:

W0rms II wrote:

EMP wrote:

W0rms II wrote:

Super Balanced wrote:EMP talks to Mr Platini?

EMP has high tea with Mr. Platini

Grow up you pathetic infantile delinquent.

i think it's time for you to grow up you stupid pharo!

I never said I was going to talk to Platini you cretinous fuckwit. Obviously you cannot understand simple English. I'm done wasting time on you.

EMP, genuine question, are you the bald guy in this photo?

Worms,
More unimaginative trolling.

Glen are you going to take over from me when I leave?

I think it would be quite fitting.

which one is glen?

You give it away by starting your sentences with no capital letter like you did with previous accounts.

no i didnt

Balls Grayson wrote:

Sheffield gunner wrote:

Was the referee specifically from the Ukraine-England game punished, or was it his refereeing team as a whole? From what I remember of the goal it doesn't seem fair to apportion blame to the referee; it was the linesman who messed up a simple offside call, and then the assistant behind the goal who messed up the goal-line issue. In both cases he had to put faith in their decisions.

Sir

do you remember a few years ago when I gave you $15 to wash my car?

you brought your mates Steve and Dan to help, and did a sloppy job as I recall.

When I confronted you about the quality of your work, you blamed Dan.

I tried to explain to you then about accountability.

YOU chose Steve and Dan.

I hired YOU.

YOU are accountable.

That is why you will NEVER referee at a major international tournament.

And if I have my way, NEITHER WILL STEVE OR DAN

This is almost certainly Glenn. Not the Worms account(s).

Balls Grayson wrote:

Sheffield gunner wrote:

Was the referee specifically from the Ukraine-England game punished, or was it his refereeing team as a whole? From what I remember of the goal it doesn't seem fair to apportion blame to the referee; it was the linesman who messed up a simple offside call, and then the assistant behind the goal who messed up the goal-line issue. In both cases he had to put faith in their decisions.

Sir

do you remember a few years ago when I gave you $15 to wash my car?

you brought your mates Steve and Dan to help, and did a sloppy job as I recall.

When I confronted you about the quality of your work, you blamed Dan.

I tried to explain to you then about accountability.

YOU chose Steve and Dan.

I hired YOU.

YOU are accountable.

That is why you will NEVER referee at a major international tournament.

And if I have my way, NEITHER WILL STEVE OR DAN

Did Sheffield Gunner in fact choose Steve and Dan, or did you assign them to help him since they are your mates?

If the latter then you should hold yourself accountable, not Sheffield Gunner, but that never happens.

Who isn't Glen?

@ Sheff: Got some info from UEFA regarding the referees. Bit busy at the moment. Will try to post it tonight, but no promises. Got early start to go to KIev in morning. Won't have Internet access tomorrow. Briefly, with one exception the whole teams were sent packing.

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UEFA say that after each match the performances of referees and their team were assessed. They have backtracked a bit on the original opinion regarding the Spanish referee Carlos Velasco Carballo and Hungarian Viktor Cassai, saying the assessment is the cause of them not being retained after the group stage. Bjorn Kuipers and Wolgang Stark also went home after group stage. One Dutch assistant referee from Kuipers' team was retained, Sander van Roekel.

You will note that it was not just the Spaniard who was absent from the semis, but German too after assessment.

After group stages, Nicola Rizzoli, Cuneyt Cakir, Pedro Proenca, Craig Thompson, Stephane Lannoy, Damir Skomina , Howard Webb and Jonas Eriksson were retained.

Webb, Cakir, Lannoy and Proenca were kept for semis and Proenca for final. UEFA say that it is all based on assessments and that refs went home rather than being sent home.

Scintillating stuff. More please.