CL 3rd Qualifying Round

So Man City & Ajax will be in Pot 4 too?? My bad if they will be...

PSG may be in pot 3, because they are ranked #24 (Leverkusen is ranked #28), so if one or more clubs ranked higher than them miss the CL this season, which is very likely (e.g Inter), they'll be in pot 3, just.

Ajax and Man City will be in Pot 4.

Dortmund have much more reason to complain than Leverkusen to be honest. Made the CL final last season, ranked #18 and still in pot 3, just. If they were ranked just a bit higher, they would have made pot 2.

Yeah that is messed up too... won the Bundesliga twice in a row, made it to the final last year... certainly achieved more for themselves than most of the Pot 2 teams.

Yeah, well, domestic performance is irrelevant for the UEFA team ranking, only European performance.

But if Dortmund and Leverkusen continue to qualify for the European competitions and continue to do well, they'll climb up that ranking in no time.

Leverkusen shot themselves in the foot by losing to Benfica last season (or rather not avoiding them by losing their EL group). It's considerably easier to gain coefficient points in the EL than CL.

Thought that domestic league placement played a role as well.... anyway


Kharkiv suspended from UEFA competition

http://www.dfb.de/news/de/d-champions-league/uefa-suspendiert-schalke-gegner-charkow/45760.html

blutgraetsche wrote:PSG may be in pot 3, because they are ranked #24 (Leverkusen is ranked #28), so if one or more clubs ranked higher than them miss the CL this season, which is very likely (e.g Inter), they'll be in pot 3, just.

Ajax and Man City will be in Pot 4.

Dortmund have much more reason to complain than Leverkusen to be honest. Made the CL final last season, ranked #18 and still in pot 3, just. If they were ranked just a bit higher, they would have made pot 2.

I'm not sure the table you posted is the right one. You want the 2013 ranking: kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/data/method4/trank2013.html

current status is:

Seeding pot 1

   Germany Bayern MunichTH CC: 146.922
   Spain Barcelona CC: 157.605
   England Chelsea CC: 137.592
   Spain Real Madrid CC: 136.605
   England Manchester United CC: 130.592
   Portugal Porto CC: 104.833
   Portugal Benfica CC: 102.833

Seeding pot 1 or 2 (TBD)

   Spain Atlético Madrid CC: 99.605

Seeding pot 2

   Ukraine Shakhtar Donetsk CC: 94.951
   France Marseille CC: 78.800
   Russia CSKA Moscow CC: 77.766
   France Paris Saint-Germain CC: 71.800

Seeding pot 2 or 3 (TBD)

   Italy Juventus CC: 70.829
   England Manchester City CC: 70.592
   Netherlands Ajax CC: 64.945

Seeding pot 3

   Germany Borussia Dortmund CC: 61.922
   Greece Olympiacos CC: 57.800
   Turkey Galatasaray CC: 54.400

Seeding pot 3 or 4 (TBD)

   Germany Bayer Leverkusen CC: 53.922
   Denmark Copenhagen CC: 47.140
   Italy Napoli CC: 46.829

Seeding pot 4

   Belgium Anderlecht CC: 44.880

You're right debbie, the last season's ranking is the correct one for the seeding of this season:

http://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/data/method4/trank2013.html

Leverkusen being ranked #42 have even less to complain then.

Xavier wrote:Thought that domestic league placement played a role as well.... anyway


Kharkiv suspended from UEFA competition

http://www.dfb.de/news/de/d-champions-league/uefa-suspendiert-schalke-gegner-charkow/45760.html

The question now is if Schalke get a bye or if they have to play PAOK Saloniki instead, Huub Stevens' new club that was knocked out by Metalist in the earlier CL qualification stage.

Leverkusen have a decent chance of being in pot 3. they just need one of Razgrad/Sociedad/Fenerbahce/Pacos de Ferreira to win their qualifier and that'll guarantee 8 teams ranked below them

there's a table at the bottom here which shows what the pots will be if all the highest seeds win the qualifiers:

http://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/seedcl2013.html

Pot 3 or pot 4 doesn't make much of a difference though. A lot depends on luck. I remember how Dortmund had a relatively easy group in one of their first CL campaigns under Klopp despite being seeded much lower than Bayern, who ended up in the 'group of death' with Napoli, City and Villareal. Dortmund bottled their group, while Bayern won theirs.

Last season, Dortmund was in the group of death themselves which they won convincingly.

So neither an 'easy' group nor a tough one are reliable indicators for a successful campaign. I think that Leverkusen may actually do better in a tough group, when they are not expected to win and can counter the crap out of "big name" teams with their talented and pacy attacking players.

blutgraetsche wrote:

Xavier wrote:Thought that domestic league placement played a role as well.... anyway


Kharkiv suspended from UEFA competition

http://www.dfb.de/news/de/d-champions-league/uefa-suspendiert-schalke-gegner-charkow/45760.html

The question now is if Schalke get a bye or if they have to play PAOK Saloniki instead, Huub Stevens' new club that was knocked out by Metalist in the earlier CL qualification stage.

If they appeal to CAS, the suspension gets suspended until the hearing

It happened to Fenerbahce (who were suspended):
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/european/champions-league-arsenals-opponents-fenerbahce-face-european-expulsion-8755315.html

Stupidly the hearing with CAS is not until the day after the match with Arsenal. So arsenal could lose and still go through potentially.

PAOK it is then, as UEFA has ruled:

http://www.sportal.de/uefa-legt-fest-schalke-spielt-nun-gegen-paok-saloniki-1-2013081429288600000


So Schalke will meet the team that is coached by their former manager Huub Stevens who was sacked not too long ago. Some pretty interesting side story there.

CL semi-final of 2005 rematch tonight. PSV-Milan. I can see PSV totally dicking Milan. Who havent had a competative game yet.

Celtic losing 1-0 to Shakhter Karagandy

Romford Pele wrote:Celtic losing 1-0 to Shakhter Karagandy

Sacrificing that sheep has really worked for the Khazaks.

Murray wrote:

Romford Pele wrote:Celtic losing 1-0 to Shakhter Karagandy

Sacrificing that sheep has really worked for the Khazaks.

And you have the most sheep in europe, so do something. NOW

Excellent. Dirty fucking sweaty bastards.

2-0 to the sheep killers  

Real Sociedad in Lyon!!!!

XI for Real Sociedad:

Claudio Bravo; Carlos Martínez, Cadamuro, Íñigo Martínez, De la Bella; Markel Bergara, Zurutuza, Xabi Prieto; Vela, Griezmann y Seferovic

Good news for PSV, Muntari is playing for Milan

PSV: Zoet; Brenet, Bruma, Rekik, Willems; Schaars, Maher; Park, Wijnaldum, Depay; Matavz


Milan: Abbiati; Abate, Mexes, Zapata, Emanuelson; Montolivo, De Jong, Muntari; Boateng, Balotelli, El Shaarawy

Good news for Milan, Bakkali didnt make it.

This could be one tasty match now, cause it's more even. I wonder if those hyped PSV youngsters can handle their own against such an untalented but very mature side.

Maher, Depay and Rekik are the ones you like to watch.

GRIEZMANN!!!!!

Probably will be playing in England next year

tasty!

Ht 0-1. Psv clearly the better side though.

omg psv should lead 7:1

as lineker would say: you don`t win anything with kids

this mahaer kid looks good

Steve McClaren and Trevor Francis

I don't even know where Karaganda is. Sad times for Scottish football...

blutgraetsche wrote:I don't even know where Karaganda is. Sad times for Scottish football...

Looks asian to me...or they are the st pauli for asians..cause you dont gloryhunt them I guess.