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    Post by S4P Sun Oct 01, 2006 10:10 pm

    So, just when the majority of teams are starting to settle again after a hectic summer, we have our 2nd international breal, having played just 7 games this season. Pretty frustrating eh?

    From England's perspective, Croatia away will be very tough and I won't be surprised if we don't win, but Macedonia at home should be a fairly comfortable win, even if the performance isn't great.
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    Post by Parks lives Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:51 am

    So who's going to play the holding role?

    Parker or Carrick.
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    Post by Parks lives Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:11 am

    Interesting comments on MUTV last night, whilst giving praise to Parker. Aparently Sven did comment the reason he wasn't picked was that he gives the ball away to much.
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:44 am

    Not so mmuch his ball retention - he's just way too rash. The closest thing we have to Hargreaves (i.e. a midfield terrier who makes great interceptions, tackles cleanly and does the simple things well and efficiently) is Hayden Mullins at West Ham.

    I'd rather have Carrick doing the Holding role by himself rather than Parker.

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    Post by Parks lives Mon Oct 02, 2006 11:06 am

    TeamSpirit™ wrote:
    I'd rather have Carrick doing the Holding role by himself rather than Parker.


    Carrick and Lampard though, think it would work?

    Think it would be fine against Macedonia, not so sure against Croatia away where they may get in amongst us.
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    Post by L r d Mon Oct 02, 2006 12:19 pm

    Not just he gives it away to much, but so many touches, some players control it pass all in one move, two touches max, he takes 6-7 touches to control the ball and pass it on. Top quality players would be to much for him. But he would do ok v these teams england are playing so it doesnt really matter, but mclaren will pick carrick
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Mon Oct 02, 2006 1:19 pm

    Parks Lives wrote:
    TeamSpirit™ wrote:
    I'd rather have Carrick doing the Holding role by himself rather than Parker.


    Carrick and Lampard though, think it would work?

    Think it would be fine against Macedonia, not so sure against Croatia away where they may get in amongst us.
    You're right - We'll get away with that vs. Macedonia, but not in Croatia.

    I'd rather have Carrick & Butt/Mullins or even Jenas than Lampard at the moment if it's a tough trip to Croatia.
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    Post by Parks lives Mon Oct 02, 2006 1:23 pm

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/5399364.stm

    Bent replaces Johnson.
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    Post by Parks lives Mon Oct 02, 2006 1:24 pm

    TeamSpirit™️ wrote:
    Parks Lives wrote:
    TeamSpirit™️ wrote:
    I'd rather have Carrick doing the Holding role by himself rather than Parker.


    Carrick and Lampard though, think it would work?

    Think it would be fine against Macedonia, not so sure against Croatia away where they may get in amongst us.
    You're right - We'll get away with that vs. Macedonia, but not in Croatia.

    I'd rather have Carrick & Butt/Mullins or even Jenas than Lampard at the moment if it's a tough trip to Croatia.

    Probably be King and Lampard. Neutral
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Mon Oct 02, 2006 1:25 pm

    Parks Lives wrote:

    Probably be King and Lampard. Neutral
    Doh

    Great. Perfect.
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Mon Oct 02, 2006 1:27 pm

    Parks Lives wrote:http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/5399364.stm

    Bent replaces Johnson.
    Bent > Johnson anyway. But neither of them will see Ashton for dust when he gets fit.
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    Post by Parks lives Mon Oct 02, 2006 1:33 pm

    Shame for the under 21's though.

    Would be good to see off Germany in the playoff.
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    Post by christmasborocooper Mon Oct 02, 2006 1:42 pm

    Johnson has been in great form, shame he couldnt make it.

    Doesnt matter anyway, as long as we've super crouch.
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    Post by chrissicross Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:21 pm

    So dear Englanders, are you already afraid of Friday? No worry, we'll make it short and painless for you... Laughing

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    Post by blutgraetsche Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:22 pm

    chrissicross wrote:So dear Englanders, are you already afraid of Friday? No worry, we'll make it short and painless for you... Laughing

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    Unfortunately, Helmes is injured. The U21 Mannschaft will miss him badly. Hope Eilts will not have to cope with more injuries this week.
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    Post by Parks lives Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:23 pm

    chrissicross wrote:So dear Englanders, are you already afraid of Friday? No worry, we'll make it short and painless for you... :lol:

    :wink:

    Haha, I'd be alot happier if Darren Bent was playing, but he's needed in the main squad.
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    Post by chrissicross Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:33 pm

    Parks Lives wrote:
    chrissicross wrote:So dear Englanders, are you already afraid of Friday? No worry, we'll make it short and painless for you... Laughing

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    Haha, I'd be alot happier if Darren Bent was playing, but he's needed in the main squad.
    Like blut said, we're missing Patrick Helmes because of an injury and Piotr Trochowski (Axeslammer's favourite German footballer these days, probably also the only one he rates at all... Wink) who has to replace Borowski in the main squad. I'm pretty optimistic though... Smile
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    Post by L r d Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:38 pm

    Considering it's a choice between a central midfielder and a very average player suited to the premiership but little else, it'll be a crime if Carrick doesn't start.

    Croatia is a slightly different kettle of fish. They played 5-3-2 under their old coach, I've no idea if they still do that now, but do you think that McLaren could opt to do the same?

    - - - - - - - - Robinson
    - - Ferdinand - Terry - Ledley
    Neville - - - - Carrick - - - - Cole
    - - - Gerrard - - - - - Lampard
    - - - - - - Crouch - Rooney

    Could work if Ferdinand or King pushed into midfield when in possession.
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    Post by Parks lives Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:42 pm

    Wouldn't mind that at all with Joe Cole out.
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    Post by The Pröfessör Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:59 pm

    I am sure tweedle will be happy about this
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    Post by Chap Mon Oct 02, 2006 3:00 pm

    If we play 3-5-2 I'd prefer to see Gerrard wide right, Parker backing up Carrick and Lampard behind the strikers. Gerrard, Carrick and Lampard together could be vulnerable - Parker is easily good enough for low level internationals, and decent backup for when Hargreaves returns.

    Also if Rooney and Crouch play together who leads the line? Crouch is too lightweight and Rooney will constantly run back.
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    Post by DS Mon Oct 02, 2006 5:08 pm

    chrissicross wrote:
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    chrissicross wrote:So dear Englanders, are you already afraid of Friday? No worry, we'll make it short and painless for you... Laughing

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    Haha, I'd be alot happier if Darren Bent was playing, but he's needed in the main squad.
    Like blut said, we're missing Patrick Helmes because of an injury and Piotr Trochowski (Axeslammer's favourite German footballer these days, probably also the only one he rates at all... Wink) who has to replace Borowski in the main squad. I'm pretty optimistic though... Smile

    Boateng is there so no problems.
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    Post by DS Mon Oct 02, 2006 5:10 pm

    The problem is Steve is not prepared to drop Lampard.
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    Post by Tweesus Tue Oct 03, 2006 9:36 am

    Is the game against Croatia on terrestrial or on Sky Question
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    Post by S4P Tue Oct 03, 2006 7:26 pm

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    What's the latest on J.Cole?

    Back in light training I believe. Just nursing the last wounds of the injury. Should be back for Reading I hope (whether he plays or not is a different matter)
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    Post by S4P Tue Oct 03, 2006 7:27 pm

    BilalShah wrote:The problem is Steve is not prepared to drop Lampard.

    I know it makes little difference in terms of how he's judged nowadays, but Lamps has had 3 excellent performances for Chelsea so far this season.

    The problem is England are designed differently to Chelsea.
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    Post by DS Tue Oct 03, 2006 9:04 pm

    S4P,
    no offense but I think Lampard is good but only in a system.
    England cant provide that b/c we dont have any classic DMC.

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