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    Post by Tweesus Fri Oct 06, 2006 6:44 pm

    By foreign we're taking it as meaning not from the British Isles.

    Mine:

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    Eboué---Gallas--Carvalho--Heinze

    Ronaldo--Alonso---Essien---Robben

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    Argue away....

    The real contentious one is the left winger I think but couldn't think of any better...
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    Post by theflyingfrenchman Fri Oct 06, 2006 6:46 pm

    Carvalho, what the fuck? Haim's miles better. And I'd put Diagne-Faye in midfield ahead of Alonso. But otherwise pretty sound.
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    Post by S4P Fri Oct 06, 2006 6:48 pm

    Not too keen on Carvalho to be honest Tweeds. Too inconsistent (not necessarily performance wise, but in discipline) Toure > Carvalho
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    Post by DS Fri Oct 06, 2006 6:48 pm

    Morten Gamst Pedersen for the LW, done more for Blackburn then Robben done for Chelsea.
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    Post by S4P Fri Oct 06, 2006 6:51 pm

    BilalShah wrote:Morten Gamst Pedersen for the LW, done more for Blackburn then Robben done for Chelsea.

    Maybe, but I think if they switched clubs (MGP came to Chelsea and Robben went to Blackburn) you would say the opposite, as Robben would have a much bigger impact at a club with less quality players.
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    Post by theflyingfrenchman Fri Oct 06, 2006 6:52 pm

    Robben is quality. Very underrated player.
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    Post by Tweesus Fri Oct 06, 2006 6:53 pm

    I was going to put Toure but thought I'd get complaints about three of the back line being Arsenal players.

    @ff

    Touré>>>Ben Haim and you know it Wink
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    Post by DS Fri Oct 06, 2006 6:55 pm

    S4P wrote:
    BilalShah wrote:Morten Gamst Pedersen for the LW, done more for Blackburn then Robben done for Chelsea.

    Maybe, but I think if they switched clubs (MGP came to Chelsea and Robben went to Blackburn) you would say the opposite, as Robben would have a much bigger impact at a club with less quality players.

    I am not denying Robben quality but he has not really in form so I would take MGP at the moment.
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    Post by Tweesus Fri Oct 06, 2006 6:55 pm

    I also tried hard to find a way of getting Cesc in midfeild but it just wasn't possible Doh
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    Post by S4P Fri Oct 06, 2006 6:56 pm

    Tweedledum wrote:I was going to put Toure but thought I'd get complaints about three of the back line being Arsenal players.

    @ff

    Touré>>>Ben Haim and you know it Wink

    All 3 of the Arsenal players are excellent defenders. I would have Eboue and Toure in my Premiership XI defence.

    Your defence is very underrated
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    Post by S4P Fri Oct 06, 2006 6:57 pm

    BilalShah wrote:
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    BilalShah wrote:Morten Gamst Pedersen for the LW, done more for Blackburn then Robben done for Chelsea.

    Maybe, but I think if they switched clubs (MGP came to Chelsea and Robben went to Blackburn) you would say the opposite, as Robben would have a much bigger impact at a club with less quality players.

    I am not denying Robben quality but he has not really in form so I would take MGP at the moment.

    If you're talking about this season, sure.

    (I didn't quite know whether you meant this season only or their whole time in the EPL)
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    Post by theflyingfrenchman Fri Oct 06, 2006 6:58 pm

    Tweedledum wrote:I was going to put Toure but thought I'd get complaints about three of the back line being Arsenal players.

    @ff

    Touré>>>Ben Haim and you know it Wink

    Whatever, anyone bar Carvalho.

    Although Ben Haim is a top top player. Him and N'Gotty at the back was pretty much unbreachable (except Man Utd and Chelsea away).

    And Gardner is also in with a shout if you don't want Robben.
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    Post by DS Fri Oct 06, 2006 6:58 pm

    Would that team win against a British X1.
    My answer is yes.
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    Post by Tweesus Fri Oct 06, 2006 7:00 pm

    I like Gardner a lot - would be a good sub in the foreign team ok
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    Post by L r d Fri Oct 06, 2006 7:01 pm

    Carvalho? Ben Haim? Toure?

    ...Erm... Agger?!
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    Post by S4P Fri Oct 06, 2006 7:03 pm

    British XI?

    -----------Robinson----------
    Neville--Rio--Terry--Bridge??
    Gerrard-Parker-Lampard-Giggs
    -------Bellamy--Rooney-------

    I know my team may be a little bit English (I wanted Given as GK, and Duff on the wing but I guess R.O.Ireland players don't count)
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    Post by theflyingfrenchman Fri Oct 06, 2006 7:04 pm

    Obispo wrote:Carvalho? Ben Haim? Toure?

    ...Erm... Agger?!

    I was going to mention him. And then I thought:

    a). Obispo will anyway.
    b). It's pretty stupid to put someone in who's played ten senior games.

    besides Haim>Agger.
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    Post by L r d Fri Oct 06, 2006 7:07 pm

    theflyingfrenchman wrote:
    Obispo wrote:Carvalho? Ben Haim? Toure?

    ...Erm... Agger?!

    I was going to mention him. And then I thought:

    a). Obispo will anyway.
    b). It's pretty stupid to put someone in who's played ten senior games.

    besides Haim>Agger.

    To be fair, Haim is actually a good shout. He's one of your better players.

    He's no Agger though. Besides, Agger's played as many senior games as Messi, who people think is world class Razz
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    Post by Tweesus Fri Oct 06, 2006 7:08 pm

    Agger maybe by the end of the season - he hasn't really done enough yet to warrant knocking Touré out the team
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    Post by DS Fri Oct 06, 2006 7:09 pm

    ---------------Robinson-------------

    Neville----------Rio-----------Terry------------Bridge

    Gerrard----------Carrick--------Parker--------Giggs

    -----------------Crouch-----------Rooney-----------

    I picked the midfield based on Liverpool's midfield, Parker holds , Carrick is the play maker , Gerrard and Giggs allowed to roam a bit.

    It would be interesting to see how many goals/assists/cleansheats the british X1 gets as compared to the foreign X1.
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    Post by COTR Fri Oct 06, 2006 7:10 pm

    riise is a much better left back than heinze.. toure for carvalho and thats pretty much it
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    Post by DS Fri Oct 06, 2006 7:11 pm

    Lets do a full squad 23 players foreign and 23 british and keep tracking how many assists ,goals,clean sheets /goal conceded they do and we will see who wins the Foreign X1 or the British X1 at the end of the season.
    Anyone up for it.
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    Post by theflyingfrenchman Fri Oct 06, 2006 7:12 pm

    @Bilal, nope I can't be arsed.

    Besides foreign would win.
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    Post by DS Fri Oct 06, 2006 7:13 pm

    @TheFlyingFrenchman
    okay but what will be your Foreign or British squad would be.
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    Post by Tweesus Fri Oct 06, 2006 7:16 pm

    Cole has to be the left back for the British team.

    And however much stick Lampard gets he'd still be in an EPL British team.
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    Post by L r d Fri Oct 06, 2006 7:16 pm

    Foreign XI

    - - - - - - - - Reina
    eboue - Hyypia - Agger - Riise
    Garcia - Alonso - Sissoko - Gonzalez
    - - - - - Kuyt - Kewell

    British XI

    - - - - - - - - Carson
    Peltier - Carragher - Hobbs - Warnock
    - - - Gerrard - Hammil - Anderson
    - Bellamy - Crouchinho - Fowler
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    Post by DS Fri Oct 06, 2006 7:18 pm

    Tweedledum wrote:Cole has to be the left back for the British team.

    And however much stick Lampard gets he'd still be in an EPL British team.
    I told you my reason of dropping him .
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    Post by theflyingfrenchman Fri Oct 06, 2006 7:20 pm

    Gk

    Cech
    Lehmann
    Jaaskelainen

    Defenders:

    Eboué
    Chimbonda
    Gallas
    Touré
    Haim
    Heinze
    Gardner
    Riise

    Mids:

    Ronaldo
    Robben
    Essien
    Ballack
    Alonso
    Diop
    Faye
    Fabregas

    Forwards:

    Henry
    Drogba
    Saha
    Yakubu


    I've probably forgotten lots of really obvious players, but that's what I'd pick.
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    Post by theflyingfrenchman Fri Oct 06, 2006 7:21 pm

    Obispo wrote:Foreign XI

    - - - - - - - - Reina
    eboue - Hyypia - Agger - Riise
    Garcia - Alonso - Sissoko - Gonzalez
    - - - - - Kuyt - Kewell

    British XI

    - - - - - - - - Carson
    Peltier - Carragher - Hobbs - Warnock
    - - - Gerrard - Hammil - Anderson
    - Bellamy - Crouchinho - Fowler

    Kewell gets in ahead of Pongolle? (he's on loan, you can still pick him.)
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    Post by L r d Fri Oct 06, 2006 7:21 pm

    Pongolle can play as an attacking rightback Ale

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