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Henry criticises Arsenal fans

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Henry criticises Arsenal fans

by Since 1888 Thu Nov 02, 2006 11:06 am

Arsenal captain Thierry Henry has criticised the home fans at the new Emirates Stadium in his programme notes.

Henry and his team-mates squandered a number of chances against CSKA Moscow and were forced to settle for a goalless draw on Wednesday despite impressing with their approach play.

After being held by Everton to a 1-1 draw on Saturday, Henry was moved to voice his frustration at sections of the club's support for not giving their full backing to the team.

"There were times during the match [against Everton] that we could hear the crowd getting frustrated, which I completely understand, but I just feel it would be better if we all stayed together – both when we're winning 4-0 and always when it doesn't come off," he stated. "

"We were all frustrated on Saturday and, at the end of the game, if we haven't got the result, then fine, groan and complain then.

"We are all disappointed when we don't get the result, believe me. But it really doesn't help groaning at the players when there is still an hour to go, far from it actually, it can get on top of you.

"Also on Saturday I saw some fans leave early. We were constantly attacking, looking for the winning goal. I just wanted you to know that the players do notice it, so please try and stay until the end."

There have been concerns raised about access from the Emirates Stadium after games which has led to supporters leaving early in order to avoid lengthy queues for public transport.

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Re: Henry criticises Arsenal fans

by Ricardo Jol Thu Nov 02, 2006 11:11 am

Arsenal have too many nice footballers! They need a few English killers! I thought this Arsenal team was different from the other years but yesterday I noticed this team is no different and they will make the same mistakes as in the past!

No winners mentality! They don´t play to win but they play to get "nice" football!

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Re: Henry criticises Arsenal fans

by Glenarch of the Glen Thu Nov 02, 2006 11:49 am

ricardojol wrote:Arsenal have too many nice footballers! They need a few English killers! I thought this Arsenal team was different from the other years but yesterday I noticed this team is no different and they will make the same mistakes as in the past!

No winners mentality! They don´t play to win but they play to get "nice" football!

I agree, they need a bastard, someone who will score an ugly goal through sheer determination.

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Re: Henry criticises Arsenal fans

by Dwarf Thu Nov 02, 2006 12:01 pm

Glenn Hysen wrote:
I agree, they need a bastard, someone who will score an ugly goal through sheer determination.

Or a player whose so bad he's good. Take Lampard's goal on tuesday. If an Arsenal player was in that position he would control the ball and shoot at keeper. As a Chelsea player, he wouldn't control the ball in the first place, and somehow get the ball in.

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Re: Henry criticises Arsenal fans

by AsianBoy Thu Nov 02, 2006 12:24 pm

Glenn Hysen wrote:

ricardojol wrote:Arsenal have too many nice footballers! They need a few English killers! I thought this Arsenal team was different from the other years but yesterday I noticed this team is no different and they will make the same mistakes as in the past!

No winners mentality! They don´t play to win but they play to get "nice" football!

I agree, they need a bastard, someone who will score an ugly goal through sheer determination.

Effenberg wrote
Player-to-Player comparisons are gay.

execuse me,what does that mean?

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Re: Henry criticises Arsenal fans

by Saintsar Thu Nov 02, 2006 12:29 pm

I've been saying for ages that Gallic flair is not substitute for British grit - one needs both hard bastards and fancy dans to win the top prizes in football.

On the other hand, Arsenal missed half a dozen easily scoreable chances and should have won the game, so it's only one bad result from a good performance, no need to panic just yet.

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Re: Henry criticises Arsenal fans

by Saintsar Thu Nov 02, 2006 12:31 pm

Cking wrote:

Glenn Hysen wrote:

ricardojol wrote:Arsenal have too many nice footballers! They need a few English killers! I thought this Arsenal team was different from the other years but yesterday I noticed this team is no different and they will make the same mistakes as in the past!

No winners mentality! They don´t play to win but they play to get "nice" football!

I agree, they need a bastard, someone who will score an ugly goal through sheer determination.

Effenberg wrote
Player-to-Player comparisons are gay.

execuse me,what does that mean?

Player to player comparisons, e.g. asking 'is Rooney better than Van Persie?' or 'Is Ronaldinho better than Kaka?' are gay, i.e. slang for 'pathetic' or 'a waste of time'.

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Re: Henry criticises Arsenal fans

by AsianBoy Thu Nov 02, 2006 12:44 pm

saintgoingmarching wrote:

Cking wrote:

Glenn Hysen wrote:

ricardojol wrote:Arsenal have too many nice footballers! They need a few English killers! I thought this Arsenal team was different from the other years but yesterday I noticed this team is no different and they will make the same mistakes as in the past!

No winners mentality! They don´t play to win but they play to get "nice" football!

I agree, they need a bastard, someone who will score an ugly goal through sheer determination.

Effenberg wrote
Player-to-Player comparisons are gay.

thanks very much,english man. btw,how do you sniff that cat into ur nose,its amazing!!!!!!!!!!

execuse me,what does that mean?

Player to player comparisons, e.g. asking 'is Rooney better than Van Persie?' or 'Is Ronaldinho better than Kaka?' are gay, i.e. slang for 'pathetic' or 'a waste of time'.

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Re: Henry criticises Arsenal fans

by Cesc Thu Nov 02, 2006 12:47 pm

Source: Arsenal.com

Thierry Henry’s programme notes for the CSKA Moscow game have been widely reported in the media this morning. Here, in context, is what the captain actually said.

It was a frustrating day for everyone on Saturday — for me, the team and the fans, but I think what’s important is that we all stick together.

Everton made it difficult for us, which I know is something we have to adapt to, but they had everyone behind the ball. We tried to carry on playing our game, how we did at Reading and how we always do, but on Saturday it didn’t come off. When teams come here they change their formation — that’s a fact — and we know we have to adapt to it.

We had a lack of concentration on the goal we conceded from a corner. Once again, the opposition have one opportunity in the game and they are 1-0 up. And in fact it turned out to be their only opportunity all day.

Everton came with a game plan and scoring early reassured them about what they wanted to do. Tim Cahill had a good game, and they defended well. Let’s try to take the positives though. We kept fighting until the end, and we created chances.

In the second-half we were better and Robin scored a great free-kick. We are sharing the free-kicks, and it’s always better if there are two of us behind the ball, because the ‘keeper doesn’t know who will take it. I put the ball down and Robin stepped up to take it, maybe that created the tiny bit of hesitation we needed.

As I say we improved in the second-half, but I know we didn’t play well enough on Saturday. I know I had an off day myself, but we still could have won the game, we had the opportunities.

And remember, we have taken 16 points from our last six games. Apart from the game in Russia a couple of weeks ago, I think we have been playing well. We don’t have to be worried about our form. There is no need to be on a downer.

There are a couple of things I would like to say from Saturday’s game though. There were times during the match that we could hear the crowd getting frustrated, which I completely understand, but I just feel it would be better if we all stayed together — both when we are winning 4-0, and also when it doesn’t come off.

We were all frustrated on Saturday, and at the end of the game if we haven’t got the result, then fine, groan and complain then — we are all disappointed when we don’t get the result — believe me. But it really doesn’t help groaning at the players when there is still an hour or so to go, far from it actually, it can get on top of you.

I don’t want you the fans to take this the wrong way. We talked about it as a team afterwards and I’m saying it on behalf of the whole team, as captain.

I know that you weren’t booing us on Saturday, I know it wasn’t as bad as that, but I don’t want it to get to the stage where other people think that is what’s happening for two reasons.

Firstly, it provides outsiders with ammunition. You know in some quarters of the media they are making out that you booed me on Saturday which is just not true and I know that you would never do that to me or the team but given the opportunity it is easy for people on the outside to try and wedge a gap between us and we cannot let that happen. We have to stay together.

Secondly, the kind of frustration that was shown on Saturday can lift the teams that come here. When we go away and we hear the opposition fans getting on their team’s back, it gives us a massive lift, so we don’t want that to start happening to us here.

Also on Saturday I saw some fans leave early when we were looking for a goal. We were constantly attacking, looking for the winning goal but some people were leaving early. I just wanted you to know that the players do notice it, so please try and stay until the end. It is a great help to have you there as a twelfth man.

Anyway, I just wanted to raise the point. I don’t want to hide behind it as a reason why we didn’t win on Saturday, because I know I didn’t play well. I was too passive throughout the game. I didn’t take charge of things — I was waiting for things to happen, rather than making them happen.

But I can say that we definitely didn’t have the Moscow game on our minds on Saturday, because when you are chasing a game you have no time to think about anything else.

It is a big game tonight and we want to start well. Over in Moscow we got caught early again, from a free-kick. After that they played really well for about 20 minutes. We woke up in the second-half and played better, but it was a bit too late. Had we started like that, we could have been ahead, and it’s a different story when we are ahead in a match. So we want to start well tonight, and try to get that first goal. Of course you can always win a game right up to the last minute, but sometimes the way you start can set the tone and send a signal to the opposition, that’s what we want to do tonight. We want to be strong at home and let people know it’s difficult to come here.

Finally, I don’t want you to take what I’ve said the wrong way, all I want to say is that we should be together. I love this Club, and I will always do my best for the fans, but that’s a lot easier if we are all together, united as one club, and that of course includes the fans.

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Re: Henry criticises Arsenal fans

by Saintsar Thu Nov 02, 2006 1:14 pm

I can only assume that the animation in my avatar is fake. The kitten doesn't really go up the guy's nose.

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Re: Henry criticises Arsenal fans

by Tweesus Thu Nov 02, 2006 3:18 pm

*assume* being the key word, kitty killer.

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Re: Henry criticises Arsenal fans

by Romford Pele Thu Nov 02, 2006 6:29 pm

saintgoingmarching wrote:I've been saying for ages that Gallic flair is not substitute for British grit - one needs both hard bastards and fancy dans to win the top prizes in football.

On the other hand, Arsenal missed half a dozen easily scoreable chances and should have won the game, so it's only one bad result from a good performance, no need to panic just yet.

Yeh but the thing is we are mentally fragile and very unstable. One defeat and things could go pear shaped. Wenger talked about buying players like Dean Ashton and Andy Johnson but didnt go through with it. We need more direct player's. I don't see a trophy coming our way this season. I hope we buy Reo-Coker though.

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Re: Henry criticises Arsenal fans

by Saintsar Thu Nov 02, 2006 7:27 pm

See how you react - you had a sluggish start to the season but have got back on track and are now in a perfectly respectable position a handful of points off the top.

But I'd agree, since the departure of Adams and then Vieira, you do rely a lot more on footballing ability than mental strength, and over a season this doesn't bode too well.

We'll see. I expect all the top four except 'Pool to buy in January.

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Re: Henry criticises Arsenal fans

by Romford Pele Thu Nov 02, 2006 7:46 pm

How did you think I would react. I agree with some of what Wenger says but at other times the guy talks a load of bollocks and is a bit of a hypocrit. I would definitely like a blend of continental and British style grit.

Arsene said he wasn't going to buy in January

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Re: Henry criticises Arsenal fans

by Saintsar Thu Nov 02, 2006 7:52 pm

yours truly wrote:How did you think I would react.

When I said 'see how you react' I meant 'you' as in the collective noun for your club, the team and fans.

I agree with some of what Wenger says but at other times the guy talks a load of bollocks and is a bit of a hypocrit. I would definitely like a blend of continental and British style grit.

Arsene said he wasn't going to buy in January

Arsene says a lot of things that aren't true.

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Re: Henry criticises Arsenal fans

by The Pröfessör Thu Nov 02, 2006 7:56 pm

I don't buy all this talk of our lack of british grit.

We were just 13 min. away from winning the CL last season with only two english players in our team.

sol campell went AWOL at half time against west ham last season when the going got tough, wonder what would have been said if he was a foreigner.

spurs bottled it on the last day of the seaaon with all their "british grit"

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Re: Henry criticises Arsenal fans

by Romford Pele Thu Nov 02, 2006 7:57 pm

Yeh I suppose your right I'm still young and imature and I'm seething from our last result.

But where will we strengthen. All the English players that could play in our system are either unavailable or their position has been taken up.

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Re: Henry criticises Arsenal fans

by Saintsar Thu Nov 02, 2006 8:01 pm

Agooner wrote:I don't buy all this talk of our lack of british grit.

We were just 13 min. away from winning the CL last season with only two english players in our team.

A game you were only leading because of a dive by a foreigner (Eboue) and a goal by an Englishman (Sol).

sol campell went AWOL at half time against west ham last season when the going got tough, wonder what would have been said if he was a foreigner.

One game.

spurs bottled it on the last day of the seaaon with all their "british grit"

Thanks to having the shits...

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Re: Henry criticises Arsenal fans

by Romford Pele Thu Nov 02, 2006 8:05 pm

There's an element of truth in what you both said.

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Re: Henry criticises Arsenal fans

by The Pröfessör Thu Nov 02, 2006 8:11 pm

saintgoingmarching wrote:

Agooner wrote:I don't buy all this talk of our lack of british grit.

We were just 13 min. away from winning the CL last season with only two english players in our team.

A game you were only leading because of a dive by a foreigner (Eboue) and a goal by an Englishman (Sol).

sol campell went AWOL at half time against west ham last season when the going got tough, wonder what would have been said if he was a foreigner.

One game.

spurs bottled it on the last day of the seaaon with all their "british grit"

Thanks to having the shits...

who was the only player to dive in the CL final a season earlier?

*cough* steven 'english grit' gerrard *cough*

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Re: Henry criticises Arsenal fans

by Saintsar Thu Nov 02, 2006 8:14 pm

yours truly wrote:Yeh I suppose your right I'm still young and imature and I'm seething from our last result.

It's not really anything to do with age. Frustration affects footy fans of all ages.

But where will we strengthen. All the English players that could play in our system are either unavailable or their position has been taken up.

Well, you could do with a leftback, so perhaps Leighton Baines of Wigan? He's one of the best players in the England U21 set up. Central midfield is a bit of a concern because Gilberto is racking up the years and while he's been very good for you, time marches on. Reo-Coker, who has been poor this season so far, is a possibility.

Up front you could do with some more muscle, as you've got plenty of pace and technique but as Tweedle pointed out, without Adebayor you lack a plan B for your frontline. I'm struggling to think of an obvious candidate for there.

And it's not so much a British grit vs Continental flair issue, more that Arsene tends to buy technical player time and time again, regardless of where they are from, and perhaps underrates the importance of sheer physicality and determination.

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Re: Henry criticises Arsenal fans

by Saintsar Thu Nov 02, 2006 8:15 pm

Gerrard's dive wasn't as obvious, he just went down very easily. Eboue went down like his career had been ended.

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Re: Henry criticises Arsenal fans

by The Pröfessör Thu Nov 02, 2006 8:18 pm

saintgoingmarching wrote:Gerrard's dive wasn't as obvious, he just went down very easily. Eboue went down like his career had been ended.

Was it a dive, yes or no?

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Re: Henry criticises Arsenal fans

by Romford Pele Thu Nov 02, 2006 8:19 pm

saintgoingmarching wrote:

yours truly wrote:Yeh I suppose your right I'm still young and imature and I'm seething from our last result.

It's not really anything to do with age. Frustration affects footy fans of all ages.

But where will we strengthen. All the English players that could play in our system are either unavailable or their position has been taken up.

Well, you could do with a leftback, so perhaps Leighton Baines of Wigan? He's one of the best players in the England U21 set up. Central midfield is a bit of a concern because Gilberto is racking up the years and while he's been very good for you, time marches on. Reo-Coker, who has been poor this season so far, is a possibility.

Up front you could do with some more muscle, as you've got plenty of pace and technique but as Tweedle pointed out, without Adebayor you lack a plan B for your frontline. I'm struggling to think of an obvious candidate for there.

And it's not so much a British grit vs Continental flair issue, more that Arsene tends to buy technical player time and time again, regardless of where they are from, and perhaps underrates the importance of sheer physicality and determination.

Good posting <Ale>

<Ale>

I totally agree. Thing is because Arsene is so stubborn would they fit into our style of play. I'm not so sure about that. Would Reo-Coker complement Fabregas and Would Leighton attack and defend smartly.

What your saying is true though we need to be more direct. That may be why I like Chelsea so much.

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Re: Henry criticises Arsenal fans

by Saintsar Thu Nov 02, 2006 8:23 pm

Agooner wrote:

saintgoingmarching wrote:Gerrard's dive wasn't as obvious, he just went down very easily. Eboue went down like his career had been ended.

Was it a dive, yes or no?

Depends on what you mean by 'dive'. In my book, a dive is when there's clear simulation, i.e. no contact. Gerrard was looking for it, and went down easily. For many, that is a dive, so I suppose it is.

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Re: Henry criticises Arsenal fans

by A & K Sat Nov 04, 2006 11:42 am

Henry should stop whining all the time. He's getting on my nerves. Can't he understand that the reason people are booing is because they have paid their ticket and in exchange they have a poor game. Instead of opening his big mouth like that he should better score more or assist more.

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