Arsenal fans: anybody starting to miss Lehmann now ?

your title bid is collapsing in front of your eyes

you need more composure at the back and all the experience you can get

and

you have the best goalie in the world on the bench

you do the maths

Our problems are have F all to do with Almunia...

Is Darling Otto in disguise?

Kahn and Ballack support Lehmann and say he HAS to play for Germany despite sitting on the Arsenal bench

SUCH IS HIS CLASS AND EXPERIENCE

http://www.sportbild.de/sportbild/generated/article/fussball/2008/03/23/8702800000.html

in view of the almost ridiculous wealth of goalie options in Germany now (Hildebrand is now enot even amongst the top 4 these days and Neuer, a BArca target, and Adler, the best Bundesliga keeper now, are not seriously considered for Germany either)

the mind boggles how Wenger can pick a Spanish waiter over an all-time legend (best CL-clean-sheet-record)



hence

Arsenal's self inflicted decline

Why does your mind boggle when you saw how bad lehmann was at the start of the season ?

Perhaps a bit of viewing over mind boggling will do the trick for you

Darling wrote:Kahn and Ballack support Lehmann and say he HAS to play for Germany despite sitting on the Arsenal bench

SUCH IS HIS CLASS AND EXPERIENCE

http://www.sportbild.de/sportbild/generated/article/fussball/2008/03/23/8702800000.html

in view of the almost ridiculous wealth of goalie options in Germany now (Hildebrand is now enot even amongst the top 4 these days and Neuer, a BArca target, and Adler, the best Bundesliga keeper now, are not seriously considered for Germany either)

the mind boggles how Wenger can pick a Spanish waiter over an all-time legend (best CL-clean-sheet-record)



hence

Arsenal's self inflicted decline

Jens, just come out, we know you're there

Rosicky wrote:Our problems are have F all to do with Almunia...

Not our performances but with Frey in the team we would be top of the league. Our GK could have saved us about 8 points even though they only directly lost about 4. Its the difference between WC and not.

JENS CONSIDERING RETIREMENT
German keeper could hang up his gloves
Last updated: 24th March 2008

Arsenal goalkeeper Jens Lehmann has hinted he could retire after this summer's European Championship - but still believes he has a part to play in the Gunners' end-of-season push for honours.


The Germany international has spent much of the season on the Arsenal bench after losing his place to Manuel Almunia and he concedes he has found it frustrating sitting on the sidelines.

However, the former Milan keeper remains confident his experience can help Arsene Wenger's side as they attempt to win both the Premier League and the UEFA Champions League.

After that, though, Lehmann appears to be contemplating bringing his playing days to an end.

"I don't know what I will do after the summer," Lehmann told Fifa.com."I will play the European Championships and then it depends on whether I get a good offer. If I do, I might play on another two years, and if not, I probably might retire.


Difficult
"It is very difficult (to be on the bench), very hard, particularly when I see the performances on the pitch. Sometimes you have to accept it - even after I played a couple of games and was dropped again."

The 38-year-old admits he came close to leaving for Borussia Dortmund in January but opted to stay for both personal and professional reasons.

"I was very close (to leaving) but I stayed for several reasons. My experience from AC Milan, who I left too early, was one thing, and my family situation - I didn't want to take my kids out of school here. There was also the belief that I still can win something here and be part of it."


Friendship
The Germany shot-stopper admitted he does not enjoy a close relationship with Almunia, claiming it is hard to maintain friendships at top-level clubs.

"When you compete with some guys they can't separate the professional aspect from the personal. So there is no big friendship (with Almunia) but that does not worry me.

"You can have friendships in football in smaller clubs where you know you have to stick together and you know that you are so dependent on each other. In bigger clubs another guy comes in, delivers the same quality and you don't care about the first guy any more.

As a Spurs fan I really miss the lemonman...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP-_fvM33G0

shazlx wrote:

Rosicky wrote:Our problems are have F all to do with Almunia...

Not our performances but with Lehmann in the team we would be top of the league. Our GK could have saved us about 8 points even though they only directly lost about 4. Its the difference between WC and not.

Arsenal will lose the title by exactly the number of points Lehmann would have saved in comparison to Almunia

Wenger is a moron

shazlx wrote:

Rosicky wrote:Our problems are have F all to do with Almunia...

Not our performances but with Frey in the team we would be top of the league. Our GK could have saved us about 8 points even though they only directly lost about 4. Its the difference between WC and not.

Nah...look at the current table and those of the past 2 seasons. I know there are still 8 matches to go but in terms of goals conceded there's not much in it.

Current table

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premier_League_2007-08

2006/7

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006-07_in_English_football

2005/6

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005-06_in_English_football

the truth is

YOU ARSENAL FANS do NOT deserve somebody like Jens

because mentally and spiritually you are embracing mediocracy

most of you NEVER understood the genius that is Jens

since it takes one to know one

all of those who think that Cassillllllas and Bufffffon are even remotely on a par with the mighty German

please answer one question

when did the Italian or the Spaniard ever score a goal like Jens once did

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEEHQgsTUJk&feature=related

thought so

You really are a dick.

Ray Parlour wrote:You really are a dick.

succinctly put RP.

Jens is an ALL-TIME-LEGEND

he scored the header above in the 90th minute for Schalke against ARCH-ENEMY Dortmund

Buffon, Cech or Cassillas would NEVER be able to pull that off

for they are GLUED TO THEIR LINE

imagine if Robinson scored the winner in the 90th minute against Arsenal

or

Scotland , for that matter

Spuds or England fans would build him a memorial the size of Trafalgar Sq

yet

Jens does it, and it means NOTHING

Lehmann's greatest mistake was the he EVER joined Arsenal

he should have gone to Barca or Real

God, imagine he had of went to Real instead of Arsenal

We would have been subjected to endless threads for the past 3 years about how Real are fools for not starting him ahead of the OVERATED Casillas.

He would have never been num 1 at 2006 WC. Never had a great cl for you to bang on about.

Would have been an even bigger nobody than he is now.

JENS will be remembered for what he is, a clown

Darling wrote:Jens is an ALL-TIME-LEGEND

he scored the header above in the 90th minute for Schalke against ARCH-ENEMY Dortmund

Buffon, Cech or Cassillas would NEVER be able to pull that off

for they are GLUED TO THEIR LINE

imagine if Robinson scored the winner in the 90th minute against Arsenal

or

Scotland , for that matter

Spuds or England fans would build him a memorial the size of Trafalgar Sq

yet

Jens does it, and it means NOTHING

Lehmann's greatest mistake was the he EVER joined Arsenal

he should have gone to Barca or Real

Fatty Robo scored a goal in his time too.

Anyway most of us don't have any issues with Jens as a goalkeer and we don't doubt his abilities. Problem is, he 's really dug a grave for himself with the manager and the rest of the team by the he has behaved since he lost his place. AW is notoriously unsentimental when it comes to deciding which player has gone past his sell date - as seen by what he did with TH, Pires, Vieira, Ljungberg - and hell, those are the people he actually liked. He's been keeping fairly quiet of late, but Jens has never been one for making an effort to toe the line or think of things beyond himself, and he's had what's coming to him for years. The difference this time is Alumnia was ready to step up and AW knew that.

L r d wrote:God, imagine he had of went to Real instead of Arsenal

We would have been subjected to endless threads for the past 3 years about how Real are fools for not starting him ahead of the OVERATED Casillas.

He would have never been num 1 at 2006 WC. Never had a great cl for you to bang on about.

Would have been an even bigger nobody than he is now.

JENS will be remembered for what he is, a clown

It would have been quite amusing if he had gone to Madrid

you lot are an anti-Jens sect

your chest almost bursting of hatred for the mighty German

it's no longer funny

you are worse than the Chinese government who call the Dalai Lama a terrorist

I know I will never convince you of the blatently obvious

you are a lost cause

just one thought to those of you still not quite sure

why would Loew, the Germany manager, whose only aim is to win the European Cup, why would he not even select THIS legend for the squad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HY-0xuJ0edM&feature=related

and pick Jens who has ZERO match practice

well, I guess he and goalie coach Koepke (the legend of 1996) know a lot about the art of keeping a clean sheet and winning than most of you EVER will

Otto,

The more you moan the more fun it is to bash on mad jens....

my name is Darling

and a Happy Easter to you, ricardo, too

Darling wrote:you lot are an anti-Jens sect

your chest almost bursting of hatred for the mighty German

it's no longer funny

you are worse than the Chinese government who call the Dalai Lama a terrorist

I know I will never convince you of the blatently obvious

you are a lost cause

just one thought to those of you still not quite sure

why would Loew, the Germany manager, whose only aim is to win the European Cup, why would he not even select THIS legend for the squad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HY-0xuJ0edM&feature=related

and pick Jens who has ZERO match practice

well, I guess he and goalie coach Koepke (the legend of 1996) know a lot about the art of keeping a clean sheet and winning than most of you EVER will

Jens is on an equal footing with Dalai Lama is he?

I watch La Liga and I'm not sort of surpried Hildebrand isn't No.1. That other one you have, Neuer, looks the business though.

One thing about Lehmann - the character keepers almost always deliver in the pressure situations. He would've saved Drogba's winner yesterday.

merge the Dalai Lama and Nelson Mandela into one and the football equivalent would be Jens

with more sex appeal though

A Tribe Called TS wrote:One thing about Lehmann - the character keepers almost always deliver in the pressure situations. He would've saved Drogba's winner yesterday.

True, Alumnia could have done better with that. But he was in goal and not Jens. End of. Character keepers are also prone to f@cking up spectacularly - Paris, Stade de France, May 17 2006. Though the ref could have allowed Giuly's goal and not sent off Jens.

Anyway, I'm not sure why I'm going on here as I have no issues with Jens per se, as I said. It's just that he's not part of our future anymore.

TheCrazy58 wrote:

A Tribe Called TS wrote:One thing about Lehmann - the character keepers almost always deliver in the pressure situations. He would've saved Drogba's winner yesterday.

True, Alumnia could have done better with that. But he was in goal and not Jens. End of. Character keepers are also prone to f@cking up spectacularly - Paris, Stade de France, May 17 2006. Though the ref could have allowed Giuly's goal and not sent off Jens.

Anyway, I'm not sure why I'm going on here as I have no issues with Jens per se, as I said. It's just that he's not part of our future anymore.

Darling wrote:merge the Dalai Lama and Nelson Mandela into one and the football equivalent would be Jens

with more sex appeal though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijTcDSSa4uI

the truth is, NONE of you Arsenal fans are even remotely interested in how good or bad Jens or Almunia are


you have collectively written off Jens for whatever reasons

and that's it

what a scandalous treatment of the man who got you into the CL final and who assured your unbeaten EPL title win when you had a bunch of kids in defense

NEVER has a LEGEND been discarded with less grace

possibly the darkest chapter in the German-English relationship after World War 2

Darling wrote:my name is Darling

and a Happy Easter to you, ricardo, too

Happy easter too Otto!

Darling wrote:the truth is, NONE of you Arsenal fans are even remotely interested in how good or bad Jens or Almunia are


you have collectively written off Jens for whatever reasons

and that's it

what a scandalous treatment of the man he got you into the CL final and who assured your unbeaten EPL title win when you had a bunch of kids in defense

NEVER has a LEGEND been discarded with less grace

possibly the darkest chapter in the German-English relationship after World War 2

Keep teling yourself that mein freund. Forgetting that Wenger is French and he is the one who decided Jens isn't playing in goal, not the Arsenal fans.

By the way, the last time Jens played in goal for Arsenal, they lost 3-0 to Manchester United in the FA cup. Even ZeroRooney managed to score.

And I believe he was also in goal when Spurs beat Arsenal 5-1 in the carling cup.

Only a "genius" could link Arsenal's fading title challenge with his ommission

By the way- did you notice how Chelsea were losing 1-0 until Michael Ballack was taken off?

Couple of minutes after taking off the German Captain, Chelsea equalised and then took the lead