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    Post by Sgoater1 Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:32 pm

    Just seen the England squad and cant belive soe of his picks, Kirkland, Richardson, Foster (yeah looks good but not played in the Premiership) Phil Neville.

    The squad as a whole looks pretty poor, thank god its 2 years off the next major tournement.

    Something i noticed, if Cole leaves Arsenal they have no England internationals, which is suprising.


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    Post by L r d Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:32 pm

    borocooper wrote:
    Obispo wrote:Ahh bollocks, I didn't bother reading the actual squad list. I see Pip Neville is in there though Yikes

    - - - - - - - - - Robinson
    Neville - Ferdinand - Terry - Cole
    Lennon - Gerrard - Hargreaves - Downing
    - - - - - - Defoe - Crouch/Ashton

    ...Actually, that's very well balanced in all departments.

    I can see that being the line up yeah.

    Then half time subs of Defoe/Bent

    Downing/Richardson

    then later on SWP/Lennon

    Aye. It's not a bad squad actually... not the best personnel, but atleast he's got the correct balance for a 4-4-2, unlike Sven.
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    Post by Parks lives Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:34 pm

    Sgoater1 wrote:
    Something i noticed, if Cole leaves Arsenal they have no England internationals, which is suprising.

    Is it?
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    Post by Parks lives Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:35 pm

    Obispo wrote:Because Pip Neville is useless and Crouch actually scores goals for the national team?


    Against Caribbean teams maybe.
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    Post by Sgoater1 Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:36 pm

    Sir Parks Lives wrote:
    Sgoater1 wrote:
    Something i noticed, if Cole leaves Arsenal they have no England internationals, which is suprising.

    Is it?

    I know what your getting at, but i mean the fact a top 4 club in England doesnt have any England internationals.
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    Post by christmasborocooper Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:36 pm

    Sir Parks Lives wrote:
    Obispo wrote:Because Pip Neville is useless and Crouch actually scores goals for the national team?


    Against Caribbean teams maybe.

    What has P Neville ever done well for England?
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    Post by Parks lives Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:37 pm

    borocooper wrote:
    Sir Parks Lives wrote:
    Obispo wrote:Because Pip Neville is useless and Crouch actually scores goals for the national team?


    Against Caribbean teams maybe.

    What has P Neville ever done well for England?

    Filled in well in a number of positions.

    As right back, I can't see the problem. He's far better at right back than Luke Young.
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    Post by COTR Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:39 pm

    Spanky you are even stretching your normally ridiculous man u bias to it's limits here you big WUM...

    crouch has silenced nearly all his critics.. he even had old trafford singing for him which surely says something... change the record spank
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    Post by christmasborocooper Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:39 pm

    Sir Parks Lives wrote:
    borocooper wrote:
    Sir Parks Lives wrote:
    Obispo wrote:Because Pip Neville is useless and Crouch actually scores goals for the national team?


    Against Caribbean teams maybe.

    What has P Neville ever done well for England?

    Filled in well in a number of positions.

    As right back, I can't see the problem. He's far better at right back than Luke Young.

    Filled in well?

    Ive yet to see that happen, ive seen him make stupid tackles and give away a stupid penalty.
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    Post by 110% Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:40 pm

    Obispo wrote:Because Pip Neville is useless and Crouch actually scores goals for the national team?

    ... I can see where this is heading already.

    Laughing

    I see a manu vs liverpool thread coming on
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    Post by Hardrada Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:42 pm

    Sir Parks Lives wrote:
    borocooper wrote:
    Sir Parks Lives wrote:
    Obispo wrote:Because Pip Neville is useless and Crouch actually scores goals for the national team?


    Against Caribbean teams maybe.

    What has P Neville ever done well for England?

    Filled in well in a number of positions.

    As right back, I can't see the problem. He's far better at right back than Luke Young.

    Name one good game hes had for England ?

    Euro2000 - gives away pen (KOs England)
    Euro2004 - lets Rui Costa score in the 1/4s Extra time - would have KOd England but for Frank Lampard's equaliser.

    Thank goodness hes only played in 2 tournaments Exclamation
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    Post by Kimbo Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:42 pm

    110% wrote:
    Obispo wrote:Because Pip Neville is useless and Crouch actually scores goals for the national team?

    ... I can see where this is heading already.

    Laughing

    I see a manu vs liverpool thread coming on

    Hurrah! Whistle


    The squad in an abomination, it's barely even worth commenting on. Jenas ahead of Parker and NRC, bloody Phil Neville. I cannit fooking believe it. scratch cat
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    Post by christmasborocooper Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:48 pm

    Kimbo wrote:
    110% wrote:
    Obispo wrote:Because Pip Neville is useless and Crouch actually scores goals for the national team?

    ... I can see where this is heading already.

    Laughing

    I see a manu vs liverpool thread coming on

    Hurrah! Whistle


    The squad in an abomination, it's barely even worth commenting on. Jenas ahead of Parker and NRC, bloody Phil Neville. I cannit fooking believe it. scratch cat

    Nowt wrong with the most of it. Just a couple of dodgy call ups.

    Other than those 2 who would you have had in there?
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    Post by 110% Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:55 pm

    borocooper wrote:
    Kimbo wrote:
    110% wrote:
    Obispo wrote:Because Pip Neville is useless and Crouch actually scores goals for the national team?

    ... I can see where this is heading already.

    Laughing

    I see a manu vs liverpool thread coming on

    Hurrah! Whistle


    The squad in an abomination, it's barely even worth commenting on. Jenas ahead of Parker and NRC, bloody Phil Neville. I cannit fooking believe it. scratch cat

    Nowt wrong with the most of it. Just a couple of dodgy call ups.

    Other than those 2 who would you have had in there?

    Since joe cole is injured iss there a guy called etherington who is good on the left wing? Can't remember who he plays for. Also agree with parker, reo-coker, and what about nolan, barton etc. and a midfielder from aston villa whose name I cannot remember
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    Post by christmasborocooper Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:57 pm

    110% wrote:
    borocooper wrote:
    Kimbo wrote:
    110% wrote:
    Obispo wrote:Because Pip Neville is useless and Crouch actually scores goals for the national team?

    ... I can see where this is heading already.

    Laughing

    I see a manu vs liverpool thread coming on

    Hurrah! Whistle


    The squad in an abomination, it's barely even worth commenting on. Jenas ahead of Parker and NRC, bloody Phil Neville. I cannit fooking believe it. scratch cat

    Nowt wrong with the most of it. Just a couple of dodgy call ups.

    Other than those 2 who would you have had in there?

    Since joe cole is injured iss there a guy called etherington who is good on the left wing? Can't remember who he plays for. Also agree with parker, reo-coker, and what about nolan, barton etc. and a midfielder from aston villa whose name I cannot remember

    Barton and Nolan over who?

    Etherington is decent but no better than Richardson/Downing(plays for West Ham) Reo-Coker would have been alright to bring up I suppose, but again, instead of who?
    They cant ALL replace Jenas.
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    Post by Parks lives Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:57 pm

    110% wrote:
    borocooper wrote:
    Kimbo wrote:
    110% wrote:
    Obispo wrote:Because Pip Neville is useless and Crouch actually scores goals for the national team?

    ... I can see where this is heading already.

    Laughing

    I see a manu vs liverpool thread coming on

    Hurrah! Whistle


    The squad in an abomination, it's barely even worth commenting on. Jenas ahead of Parker and NRC, bloody Phil Neville. I cannit fooking believe it. scratch cat

    Nowt wrong with the most of it. Just a couple of dodgy call ups.

    Other than those 2 who would you have had in there?

    Since joe cole is injured iss there a guy called etherington who is good on the left wing? Can't remember who he plays for. Also agree with parker, reo-coker, and what about nolan, barton etc. and a midfielder from aston villa whose name I cannot remember

    http://www.google.co.uk
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    Post by debaser Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:00 pm

    is crouch now the most experienced striker in the squad? (defoe's got quite a few caps but not much playing time)...that's worrying. hope ashton does well, not seen enough to really judge him yet.

    jenas, p.neville, richardson should've been parker, reo-coker, barry. then i'd be happy
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    Post by debaser Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:04 pm

    110% wrote: and a midfielder from aston villa whose name I cannot remember
    not thinking davis are you? he's northern irish. barry is the only one that's feasible really - unless you think gavin mccann is worth a recall!
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    Post by christmasborocooper Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:04 pm

    debaser wrote:is crouch now the most experienced striker in the squad? (defoe's got quite a few caps but not much playing time)...that's worrying. hope ashton does well, not seen enough to really judge him yet.

    jenas, p.neville, richardson should've been parker, reo-coker, barry. then i'd be happy

    are you the Villa fan?

    I remember there being a villa fan on the old board.
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    Post by 110% Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:05 pm

    debaser wrote:is crouch now the most experienced striker in the squad? (defoe's got quite a few caps but not much playing time)...that's worrying. hope ashton does well, not seen enough to really judge him yet.

    jenas, p.neville, richardson should've been parker, reo-coker, barry. then i'd be happy

    sounds better to me, it's a friendly and mcclaren can see in training what these other players can do, otherwise he always has the same group of players all the time.
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    Post by 110% Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:07 pm

    debaser wrote:
    110% wrote: and a midfielder from aston villa whose name I cannot remember
    not thinking davis are you? he's northern irish. barry is the only one that's feasible really - unless you think gavin mccann is worth a recall!

    yes the left midfielder sorry couldn't remember his name
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    Post by debaser Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:07 pm

    borocooper wrote:
    debaser wrote:is crouch now the most experienced striker in the squad? (defoe's got quite a few caps but not much playing time)...that's worrying. hope ashton does well, not seen enough to really judge him yet.

    jenas, p.neville, richardson should've been parker, reo-coker, barry. then i'd be happy

    are you the Villa fan?

    I remember there being a villa fan on the old board.

    i am the villa fan, for my sins
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    Post by Tweesus Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:08 pm

    sorry haven't read anyone else's posts ...

    HOW THE HELL DID BENT GET CALLED UP? Smile
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    Post by christmasborocooper Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:08 pm

    debaser wrote:
    borocooper wrote:
    debaser wrote:is crouch now the most experienced striker in the squad? (defoe's got quite a few caps but not much playing time)...that's worrying. hope ashton does well, not seen enough to really judge him yet.

    jenas, p.neville, richardson should've been parker, reo-coker, barry. then i'd be happy

    are you the Villa fan?

    I remember there being a villa fan on the old board.

    i am the villa fan, for my sins

    rightio

    cheers for all the players. Wink
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    Post by christmasborocooper Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:08 pm

    Lord Tweedledum wrote:sorry haven't read anyone else's posts ...

    HOW THE HELL DID BENT GET CALLED UP? Smile

    phone call?
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    Post by Tweesus Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:10 pm

    so hes no longer in the under 21s then....
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    Post by debaser Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:11 pm

    borocooper wrote:
    debaser wrote:
    borocooper wrote:
    debaser wrote:is crouch now the most experienced striker in the squad? (defoe's got quite a few caps but not much playing time)...that's worrying. hope ashton does well, not seen enough to really judge him yet.

    jenas, p.neville, richardson should've been parker, reo-coker, barry. then i'd be happy

    are you the Villa fan?

    I remember there being a villa fan on the old board.

    i am the villa fan, for my sins

    rightio

    cheers for all the players. Wink

    it's okay. we replaced them with class like eric djemba-djemba and liam ridgewell Crying or Very sad
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    Post by christmasborocooper Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:11 pm

    Lord Tweedledum wrote:so hes no longer in the under 21s then....

    Guess not...
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    Post by poiuy1 Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:24 pm

    He will start for under 21's but be on the bench for the full squad
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    Post by The Pröfessör Fri Aug 11, 2006 5:07 pm

    I find the ommision of beckham very ridiculous. He posses some qualities which no england player has, so i don't know why he isn't included in the squad. I don't think he should be an automatic starter aymore but i think he can still be a usefull member of the squad.

    Having just thought about it, i think Macca is doing exactly what he knows the press like/want without actually considering some tactical//technical issues.

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