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    Post by Fey Sat Nov 11, 2006 9:53 pm

    Doel: Kenneth Vermeer (Ajax), Boy Waterman (sc Heerenveen).

    Verdediging: Ryan Donk (AZ), Royston Drenthe (Feyenoord), Marcel de Jong (Roda JC), Arnold Kruiswijk (FC Groningen), Frank van der Struijk (Willem II), Dwight Tiendalli (Feyenoord), Gianni Zuiverloon (sc Heerenveen).

    Middenveld:Ismaïl Aissati (PSV), Luigi Bruins (Excelsior), Rick Kruys (FC Utrecht), Robbert Schilder (Heracles Almelo).

    Aanval: Otman Bakkal (FC Twente), Eljero Elia (ADO Den Haag), Julian Jenner (AZ), Sherjill MacDonald (AGOVV), Quincy Owusu-Abeyie (Spartak Moskou).


    On stand-by

    Job Bulters (AZ), Jeroen Drost (sc Heerenveen), Milano Koenders (RKC Waalwijk), Kemy Agustien (Roda JC), Wout Brama (FC Twente), Kees Luijckx (AZ), Haris Medunjanin (Sparta Rotterdam), Roy Beerens (PSV), Tim Janssen (RKC Waalwijk).
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    Post by L r d Sat Nov 11, 2006 9:55 pm

    So who are the ones that we should look out for...

    the only names I recognise off the top of my head are Owusu-Abeyie, who just seems to do trick after trick after trick without actually moving forward and obviously Aissati.

    Who are the future stars?
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    Post by toon h Sat Nov 11, 2006 9:57 pm

    where ARE the future stars? Are they all in the senior squad already?
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    Post by Machiavel Sat Nov 11, 2006 10:01 pm

    toon h wrote:where ARE the future stars? Are they all in the senior squad already?

    some of the Class of 2006 .. made van Basten's squad

    star pupils include; Huntelaar and Schaars.


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    Post by Fey Sat Nov 11, 2006 10:03 pm

    Well obviously, these are not out top players. Most of them who won the EC arent even here anymore. But Aissati is a good player, Quincy Owusu-Abeyie has awesome tricks but havent seen much of him anymore since he went to Russia.

    Jenner and Mendujanin are also youngsters who have some potential. The rest are all decent.
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    Post by Machiavel Sat Nov 11, 2006 10:04 pm

    Is Afellay injured?
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    Post by Fey Sat Nov 11, 2006 10:05 pm

    rai Mihawk wrote:Is Afellay injured?

    No he was supossed to be in the senior squad, but still has some doubts to play.
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    Post by Machiavel Sat Nov 11, 2006 10:08 pm

    Fey wrote:
    rai Mihawk wrote:Is Afellay injured?

    No he was supossed to be in the senior squad, but still has some doubts to play.

    I see.

    He's talent.
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    Post by Axeslammer Sat Nov 11, 2006 10:35 pm

    Fey wrote:
    On stand-by

    Jeroen Drost (sc Heerenveen), Kemy Agustien (Roda JC), Wout Brama (FC Twente), Haris Medunjanin (Sparta Rotterdam), Roy Beerens (PSV)

    These are all beter than half the selected players....

    Does Foppe also suffer from Marco's disease ?!

    (midfield looks weak btw, Ismael wil have to do it all by himself)
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    Post by Axeslammer Sat Nov 11, 2006 10:38 pm

    Fey wrote:Kenneth Vermeer (Ajax)

    Ryan Donk (AZ), Royston Drenthe (Feyenoord), Arnold Kruiswijk (FC Groningen)

    Ismaïl Aissati (PSV)

    Julian Jenner (AZ)

    Haris Medunjanin (Sparta Rotterdam)

    These are the ones to watch out for
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    Post by toon h Sat Nov 11, 2006 11:18 pm

    Tiendalli not? He seems to be a bright young prospect?
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    Post by fcb Sun Nov 12, 2006 2:08 am

    I assume Krul would be included if not for his injury?
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Sun Nov 12, 2006 8:51 am

    he wasn't selected before but it would be madness not to include him this time!!

    Only Aissati is really a prospect the others are not that good....
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    Post by Axeslammer Sun Nov 12, 2006 11:52 am

    toon h wrote:Tiendalli not? He seems to be a bright young prospect?

    You wouldn't have said that if you'd seen him play for Feyenoord lately....
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    Post by Owen Thomas Sun Nov 12, 2006 11:55 am

    Wonder who England will play.
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    Post by L r d Sun Nov 12, 2006 12:01 pm

    Owen Thomas wrote:Wonder who England will play.

    Judging by their last games, probably something like this:

    - - - - - - - - - - Carson
    Johnson(?) - Taylor - Killgallon?!* - Baines
    - - - - - - Huddlestone - Reo Coker
    - - Agbonalahor - Milner - Theo Walcott
    - - - - - - - - - - - Nugent


    ... Shame I can't think of an U-21 right back or central defender off the top of my head. I think Ferdinand's still unfit, isn't he? They should give Hobbs and Anderson a game Cool
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    Post by Tweesus Sun Nov 12, 2006 12:18 pm

    Tim Janssens always good in management games, is he that good in real life?
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    Post by SuperMario Sun Nov 12, 2006 2:12 pm

    Tweedledum wrote:Tim Janssens always good in management games, is he that good in real life?
    Always find it hard to judge players if I don't see every game they play, but Tim looks like a prospect. He played very well for RKC when the beat Feyenoord in the Dutch Cup.

    I don't know what he's like in management games, but on the pitch Luigi Bruins is a real prospect. Very bright young midfielder, creates, scores, smart. He's from Kralingen, the same district of Rotterdam as RVP. Robin also played for excelsior's youth, befoore he went to Feyenoord.
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    Post by Axeslammer Sun Nov 12, 2006 2:58 pm

    jonathan de guzman wrote:on the pitch Luigi Bruins is a real prospect. Very bright young midfielder, creates, scores, smart.

    I like him so much that I've put him in my Fantasy League team....I'm not sure he's gonna improve much though...
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    Post by Kimbo Mon Nov 13, 2006 1:55 pm

    8 England players have pulled out of the game.

    Nigel Reo-Coker(C)
    Steven Taylor
    Gabriel Agbonlahor
    Lee Cattermole
    Ben Alnwick
    Anton Ferdinand
    Andrew Taylor
    Kieran Richardson(moved to senior squad Laughing )


    This game's a waste of time!
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    Post by christmasborocooper Mon Nov 13, 2006 1:57 pm

    didnt even know Super Cat was in it...didnt know he was injured either. Or Taylor....
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    Post by SuperMario Mon Nov 13, 2006 2:00 pm

    Axeslammer ! wrote:
    jonathan de guzman wrote:on the pitch Luigi Bruins is a real prospect. Very bright young midfielder, creates, scores, smart.

    I like him so much that I've put him in my Fantasy League team....I'm not sure he's gonna improve much though...
    Good pick. I think he will improve. Unfortunately he will not feature in the U21 match because of a (minor) injury.
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    Post by Fey Mon Nov 13, 2006 2:17 pm

    Aisattie wont play either as well as Bruins and Kruiswijk....Damn why bother to even play such a match then? What is this? All injured,sick,giving babies? Or just to lazy to play for their country?
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    Post by L r d Mon Nov 13, 2006 2:18 pm

    Fey wrote:Aisattie wont play either as well as Bruins and Kruiswijk....Damn why bother to even play such a match then? What is this? All injured,sick,giving babies? Or just to lazy to play for their country?

    It is a bad time for such pointless friendlies though.
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    Post by Fey Mon Nov 13, 2006 2:20 pm

    l r d wrote:
    Fey wrote:Aisattie wont play either as well as Bruins and Kruiswijk....Damn why bother to even play such a match then? What is this? All injured,sick,giving babies? Or just to lazy to play for their country?

    It is a bad time for such pointless friendlies though.

    Yeah I know, but is there any good time for it in the footballworld?
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    Post by L r d Mon Nov 13, 2006 2:28 pm

    Beginning or the end of the season is probably better, or not right after first cup games, and in the middle of the cl group stage and uefa cup games. If this was a big game i doubt any of these players would of pulled out, But i dont blame them for pulling out.
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    Post by Axeslammer Mon Nov 13, 2006 2:31 pm

    Fey wrote:Aisattie wont play either as well as Bruins and Kruiswijk....Damn why bother to even play such a match then? What is this? All injured,sick,giving babies? Or just to lazy to play for their country?

    Huh, oh great, mow I don't have to bother watching this one either.

    Can't we just do this one via the mail ?
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    Post by Fey Mon Nov 13, 2006 2:35 pm

    The latest Holland squad then( bare in mind that anything can happen in 24 hours)

    <<<<<= expecting a call up as well....

    Doel: Kenneth Vermeer (Ajax), Boy Waterman (sc Heerenveen).

    Verdediging: Ryan Donk (AZ), Royston Drenthe (Feyenoord), Marcel de Jong (Roda JC), Milano Koenders (RKC Waalwijk), Frank van der Struijk (Willem II), Dwight Tiendalli (Feyenoord), Gianni Zuiverloon (sc Heerenveen).

    Middenveld:Kemy Agustien (Roda JC), Wout Brama (FC Twente), Rick Kruys (FC Utrecht), Robbert Schilder (Heracles Almelo).

    Aanval: Otman Bakkal (FC Twente), Eljero Elia (ADO Den Haag), Julian Jenner (AZ), Sherjill MacDonald (AGOVV), Quincy Owusu-Abeyie (Spartak Moskou).
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    Post by Axeslammer Mon Nov 13, 2006 2:37 pm

    Fey wrote:Milano Koenders (RKC Waalwijk), Frank van der Struijk (Willem II),Sherjill MacDonald (AGOVV)

    Who ?!

    Never heard of those guys...
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    Post by Since 1888 Mon Nov 13, 2006 3:30 pm

    Koenders is a pretty decent CB and vdStruijk was part of the WCU20 squad. Both have not a future in the real Oranje though.

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