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I just don't quite know what Scholes did today to deserve such an ovation.
I don't think people are, it was only Puro.
I would of given him a 6. Excellent in the first half but over run in the second.
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I don't think people are, it was only Puro.
I would of given him a 6. Excellent in the first half but over run in the second.
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Owen Thomas wrote:S4P wrote:Owen Thomas wrote:You would have liked Ballack sent off then S4P?
Awful tackling in the first half.
Yeah, he should have gone. But the same could so easily be said of Heinze (2 yellow cards), and Scholes (5 yellow cards).
You know Scholes has kicked someone badly when Andy Gray says "The master of mis-timed tackles"
So, Scholes off Ballack off Heinze off.....(and lets no ignore some almost red card elbows from both sides). Have you ever even played the game? it's not touch rugby where as soon as your boot touches a leg it;s a foul.
There is absolutely no way that was a 3 red card game. The ref did very well considering the very physical nature of the game.
No I know it's not touch rugby, which is why I didn't get why Ronaldo kept falling down in the last 10 minutes, throwing his body over Ashley Cole to make it look like Ash had fouled him.
It wasn't a dirty game, but there were lots of nibbles and kicks from behind, which were yellow card offences (by today's rules). And if you remember rightly, 2 yellows = a sending off.
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Parks Lives wrote:& S4P, what did you think of Drogba's elbow smash into Vidic's face.
You can have no complaints about yellow and red cards.
I can if I say I thought Drogba was lucky.
But what did you make of Vidic's raised arm to Cudicini's face?
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blatant blatant cheating in the first minute. sort of defies his unit image..
Aye, he made a meal of it but Ballack fucking clothes lined him.
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indeed i do. but maybe im baised but i do think gerrard provides a hell of a lot more assists and telling through ballas then frank does.. but lets not turn it into a gerrard, lamp debate. nobody deserves another one of those inflicted on themI'm sure you perhaps feel the same way about Gerrard when he plays in the middle.
It's just a shame Sheva didn't play in the Nou Camp, when Frank played well for ten minuted but was non existent for the rest of the game, and was giving Robben glorious chances to score
sorry couldn't resist
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Parks Lives wrote:S4P wrote:
I just don't quite know what Scholes did today to deserve such an ovation.
I don't think people are, it was only Puro.
I would of given him a 6. Excellent in the first half but over run in the second.
Everyone has offdays. considering how well Scholesy has played this season, its not a suprise he was going to fade at some point.
The fucker has asthma for Christs sake, how he even survives 90minutes of football that quick is beyond me (asthmatics have far lower oxygen uptake rates then your average man)
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S4P wrote:Parks Lives wrote:& S4P, what did you think of Drogba's elbow smash into Vidic's face.
You can have no complaints about yellow and red cards.
I can if I say I thought Drogba was lucky.
But what did you make of Vidic's raised arm to Cudicini's face?
You're comparing the two?
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S4P wrote:Owen Thomas wrote:S4P wrote:Owen Thomas wrote:You would have liked Ballack sent off then S4P?
Awful tackling in the first half.
Yeah, he should have gone. But the same could so easily be said of Heinze (2 yellow cards), and Scholes (5 yellow cards).
You know Scholes has kicked someone badly when Andy Gray says "The master of mis-timed tackles"
So, Scholes off Ballack off Heinze off.....(and lets no ignore some almost red card elbows from both sides). Have you ever even played the game? it's not touch rugby where as soon as your boot touches a leg it;s a foul.
There is absolutely no way that was a 3 red card game. The ref did very well considering the very physical nature of the game.
No I know it's not touch rugby, which is why I didn't get why Ronaldo kept falling down in the last 10 minutes, throwing his body over Ashley Cole to make it look like Ash had fouled him.
It wasn't a dirty game, but there were lots of nibbles and kicks from behind, which were yellow card offences (by today's rules). And if you remember rightly, 2 yellows = a sending off.
Again you show your ignorance of the actual game. I think you will find that when you are running at full pelt the slightest touch can put your ass on the floor.
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Parks Lives wrote:S4P wrote:Parks Lives wrote:& S4P, what did you think of Drogba's elbow smash into Vidic's face.
You can have no complaints about yellow and red cards.
I can if I say I thought Drogba was lucky.
But what did you make of Vidic's raised arm to Cudicini's face?
You're comparing the two?
Nope. I'm just saying that there were raised arms from both sides.
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och come on spank. he barley touched him in the chest. vidic went down clutching his face for some reason and rolled around for about 2 minutes. just applying the same logic people (presumably you were one of them but can't remember) dished out to henry.Parks Lives wrote:COTR wrote:
blatant blatant cheating in the first minute. sort of defies his unit image
Aye, he made a meal of it but Ballack fucking clothes lined him.
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Owen Thomas wrote:S4P wrote:Owen Thomas wrote:S4P wrote:Owen Thomas wrote:You would have liked Ballack sent off then S4P?
Awful tackling in the first half.
Yeah, he should have gone. But the same could so easily be said of Heinze (2 yellow cards), and Scholes (5 yellow cards).
You know Scholes has kicked someone badly when Andy Gray says "The master of mis-timed tackles"
So, Scholes off Ballack off Heinze off.....(and lets no ignore some almost red card elbows from both sides). Have you ever even played the game? it's not touch rugby where as soon as your boot touches a leg it;s a foul.
There is absolutely no way that was a 3 red card game. The ref did very well considering the very physical nature of the game.
No I know it's not touch rugby, which is why I didn't get why Ronaldo kept falling down in the last 10 minutes, throwing his body over Ashley Cole to make it look like Ash had fouled him.
It wasn't a dirty game, but there were lots of nibbles and kicks from behind, which were yellow card offences (by today's rules). And if you remember rightly, 2 yellows = a sending off.
Again you show your ignorance of the actual game. I think you will find that when you are running at full pelt the slightest touch can put your ass on the floor.
But what happens if there is no touch? (like there wasn't)
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S4P wrote:Owen Thomas wrote:S4P wrote:Owen Thomas wrote:S4P wrote:Owen Thomas wrote:You would have liked Ballack sent off then S4P?
Awful tackling in the first half.
Yeah, he should have gone. But the same could so easily be said of Heinze (2 yellow cards), and Scholes (5 yellow cards).
You know Scholes has kicked someone badly when Andy Gray says "The master of mis-timed tackles"
So, Scholes off Ballack off Heinze off.....(and lets no ignore some almost red card elbows from both sides). Have you ever even played the game? it's not touch rugby where as soon as your boot touches a leg it;s a foul.
There is absolutely no way that was a 3 red card game. The ref did very well considering the very physical nature of the game.
No I know it's not touch rugby, which is why I didn't get why Ronaldo kept falling down in the last 10 minutes, throwing his body over Ashley Cole to make it look like Ash had fouled him.
It wasn't a dirty game, but there were lots of nibbles and kicks from behind, which were yellow card offences (by today's rules). And if you remember rightly, 2 yellows = a sending off.
Again you show your ignorance of the actual game. I think you will find that when you are running at full pelt the slightest touch can put your ass on the floor.
But what happens if there is no touch? (like there wasn't)
Do you mean the yellow card incident which initially looked like nothing but actually injured Ronaldo?
Players who run very fast will fall to the ground more. Fact.
Anyway I will stop abusing you now. Just don't like how you are continually bashing our side for being overly physical when we weren't(including your original ridiculous post).
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Ballack lost the plot in the 1st half - he was extremely fortunate to stay on the pitch in the 1st half.
Apart from that it was all the tension and niggly fouling that clashes of these sorts bring. These games rarely live up to the hype from a purists point of view, but top sides will always cancel each other out for the most part.
P.S. Michael Carrick was class for an hour
Apart from that it was all the tension and niggly fouling that clashes of these sorts bring. These games rarely live up to the hype from a purists point of view, but top sides will always cancel each other out for the most part.
P.S. Michael Carrick was class for an hour
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Milan vs. Inter or Bremen vs. Bayern delivered, just to mention a few recent examples. Real vs. Barca was entertaining as well.
It doesn't have to be like this.
It doesn't have to be like this.
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Owen Thomas wrote:
Anyway I will stop abusing you now. Just don't like how you are continually bashing our side for being overly physical when we weren't(including your original ridiculous post).
If you look closely, you will see I have never bashed United. I have no problem with United or any of their fans.
I have said 1 or 2 Chelsea players were lucky to stay on the field. I only said that I thought Scholes kicked Lampard all game, and that there were one or two other challenges flying in. That's hardly bashing your side.
I was just annoyed at how much bashing Lampard was getting (far worse than anything I have said about your team), and how Puro uses this game to continue his anti-Ashley Cole agenda.
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blutgraetsche wrote:Milan vs. Inter or Bremen vs. Bayern delivered, just to mention a few recent examples. Real vs. Barca was entertaining as well.
It doesn't have to be like this.
Great atmosphere though. As good as they were, none of those game what I saw of them had such high intensity and intimidating atmosphere as today 
Problem with these type of intense British style game is the players are so fired up by all the intensity that it becomes more blood and thunder spectacle than a tradition continental calculated, tactical battle.
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Really? I actually thought that the Manu vs. Arsenal match earlier this season was much better, to name a recent EPL example I watched myself.
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Oh, and not to forget both matches between Chelsea and Barca in the CL this season, and last season.
It really doesn't have to be like this.
It really doesn't have to be like this.
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Both teams were lucky to finish the game with ten men. All Chelsea did in the first half was foul people on headers. Two elbows, a couple of obvious shoves and three 'accidental' clashes of heads were their accomplishment. Scholes obviously went into the game with a plan to kick Lampard out of it. It more or less worked, possibly due to an excellently judged dead leg early on.
I don't know why Carrick was booked when so many other players were not. Bit of a funny game by the ref, but he kept a lid on the nasty stuff so I suppose he did well.
I don't know why Carrick was booked when so many other players were not. Bit of a funny game by the ref, but he kept a lid on the nasty stuff so I suppose he did well.
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blutgraetsche wrote:Really? I actually thought that the Manu vs. Arsenal match earlier this season was much better, to name a recent EPL example I watched myself.
Better game, or better atmosphere?
Because tonight was the best atmosphere I've seen this season in the EPL
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Better game, but the atmosphere usually is pretty intense and great at Old Trafford anyway.
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blutgraetsche wrote:Better game, but the atmosphere usually is pretty intense and great at Old Trafford anyway.
Only in the big games, it must be said.
Before a scousers says it probably.
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Puro wrote:Sorry to say that the match didn't live up to all the hype the English media cranked up all week. Don't get me wrong, the game was good, but it left that feeling that you were shortchanged.
My MOTM, Carvalho for Chelsea and Cristiano for the Mancs. Carvalho had Rooney in his pocket yet again. Carvalho was so good he even took on Saha, but unfortunately Saha got one past him. We know we can't count on Terry to anticipate the plays.
Cristiano was amazing turning Ashley Cole sideways, backwards, twisting him like a pretzel throughout. It's too bad Cristiano missed that goal in the second half when the ball bounced funny close to goal after a Heinze cross I believe. Ashley Cole had enough of Cristiano he had to kick him all game. Can't provide anything on offense, in danger of being the scapegoat, last resort is to get Cristiano out of the game with fouls. Ashley is such an overrated player, Bridge is more than capable of doing the job there.
Kudos to Vidic, Scholes, Carrick, Essien, Drogba. Good game, but didn't live up to all that hype as almost always in the EPL. We know that.
Just proves that when it comes to football we all 'see what we want to see'.
I thought Cole coped admirably with Ronaldo. Most fullbacks in the world would have been completely undone by Ronaldo today - he's the best at running with the ball in tights spots.
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blutgraetsche wrote:Better game, but the atmosphere usually is pretty intense and great at Old Trafford anyway.
Yeah I agree, although the reason that day was Arsenal were far superior to United. Tonight it was pretty much a stalemate.
But you're right. Quality wise it could have been better, although the nature of the premiership, its pace and lack of time on the ball means that these kind of games occur quite regularly.
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The Real White Pele wrote:blutgraetsche wrote:Better game, but the atmosphere usually is pretty intense and great at Old Trafford anyway.
Yeah I agree, although the reason that day was Arsenal were far superior to United. Tonight it was pretty much a stalemate.
But you're right. Quality wise it could have been better, although the nature of the premiership, its pace and lack of time on the ball means that these kind of games occur quite regularly.
Another believer of Arsenal propaganda
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I know it's a cliché, but what I don't get about many EPL teams that definitely can pass the ball around well, this includes all of the so called "top 4" (and other teams like Tottenham, for example), and not just Arsenal, is that they use long balls way too often.
Don't get me wrong, long balls should not be condemned or anything, they can often cause a surprise in a tight match (precise ones at least), but too many long balls actually slow down the game, yes, that's right, long balls are slower and easier to defend against than so called "one touch" football, a fast short passing game, or long flat passes.
For a league that is so proud about the pace, this always striked me odd.
Don't get me wrong, long balls should not be condemned or anything, they can often cause a surprise in a tight match (precise ones at least), but too many long balls actually slow down the game, yes, that's right, long balls are slower and easier to defend against than so called "one touch" football, a fast short passing game, or long flat passes.
For a league that is so proud about the pace, this always striked me odd.
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I watch the game drunk, but i know this ronaldo is the best player, carrick is not man of the match, carvalho goal is so lucky and he was nothing special. chelsea foul foul foul foul foul. ballack deserve 4 yellow cards, and cole 3
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l r d wrote:I watch the game drunk, but i know this ronaldo is the best player, carrick is not man of the match, carvalho goal is so lucky and he was nothing special. chelsea foul foul foul foul foul. ballack deserve 4 yellow cards, and cole 3
Yawn yawn yawn....
Take another....
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ricardojol wrote:l r d wrote:I watch the game drunk, but i know this ronaldo is the best player, carrick is not man of the match, carvalho goal is so lucky and he was nothing special. chelsea foul foul foul foul foul. ballack deserve 4 yellow cards, and cole 3
Yawn yawn yawn....
Take another....
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Seriously............ is English your first language???l r d wrote:I watch the game drunk, but i know this ronaldo is the best player, carrick is not man of the match, carvalho goal is so lucky and he was nothing special. chelsea foul foul foul foul foul. ballack deserve 4 yellow cards, and cole 3
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