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    Post by Oleguerisntthatbad Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:14 pm

    Obispo wrote:
    Pierre Littbarski wrote:
    The big problem for Riquelme is that his lack of physical qualities make it tough for him and he hasn't really got a big enough personality to be a big player at a big club.

    For "physical qualities" simply re: pace, because his upper-body strength can't be doubted.

    Put Riquelme in a team with a Deco/Essien/Makalele and he will be just fine. He just needs a top quality "bodyguard".
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    Post by The Pröfessör Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:23 pm

    Pierre Littbarski wrote:I actually agree with Agooner affraid

    Players like Riquelme, Henry and, to a lesser extent, Totti are indulged by their clubs and have the whole side built around them - they should try playing for one of the really big boys where you are just another player who has to fit into the already established system.

    The big problem for Riquelme is that his lack of physical qualities make it tough for him and he hasn't really got a big enough personality to be a big player at a big club.


    * Obispo - anyone who said that Lampard is better than Deco is not someone you should even be discussing football with - don't bother next time.

    Glad u agree with me for once Smile

    But i have to correct u once more; our team isn't built around henry, Cesc fabulosa is the man ok this current team is his, without him we are fucked. Our style of play- pass & move- suits henry very well but i feel this team doesn't get the best out of him because we play more of possession football these days. He plays best in a team that set him up after one two three passes,not the one that keeps the ball a lot.
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    Post by The Pröfessör Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:32 pm

    Oleguerisntthatbad wrote:
    Obispo wrote:
    Pierre Littbarski wrote:
    The big problem for Riquelme is that his lack of physical qualities make it tough for him and he hasn't really got a big enough personality to be a big player at a big club.

    For "physical qualities" simply re: pace, because his upper-body strength can't be doubted.

    Put Riquelme in a team with a Deco/Essien/Makalele and he will be just fine. He just needs a top quality "bodyguard".

    Riquelme is a good player but for top teams to really look at u these days, u have to

    1) be a good dribbler or

    2) have pace

    Those are 2 important attributes in modern day football and he lacks both of them. Teams prefer players who have both but having one of them won't hinder your chances of making it at top clubs. Zidane for example lacked pace but was a good dribbler .
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    Post by Pierre Littbarski Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:39 pm

    Agooner wrote:
    Oleguerisntthatbad wrote:
    Obispo wrote:
    Pierre Littbarski wrote:
    The big problem for Riquelme is that his lack of physical qualities make it tough for him and he hasn't really got a big enough personality to be a big player at a big club.

    For "physical qualities" simply re: pace, because his upper-body strength can't be doubted.

    Put Riquelme in a team with a Deco/Essien/Makalele and he will be just fine. He just needs a top quality "bodyguard".

    Riquelme is a good player but for top teams to really look at u these days, u have to

    1) be a good dribbler or

    2) have pace

    Those are 2 important attributes in modern day football and he lacks both of them. Teams prefer players who have both but having one of them won't hinder your chances of making it at top clubs. Zidane for example lacked pace but was a good dribbler .

    Do you not think size/strength rather than dribbling was zidane's big advantage over Riquelme ?
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    Post by SuperMario Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:46 pm

    Riquelme - Page 2 Luigi%20bruins

    Riquelme 2.0 aka Luigi Bruins (18 )

    Excelsior Rotterdam's #10.

    Excelsior want 10M euro+ for him.
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    Post by The Pröfessör Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:50 pm

    Pierre Littbarski wrote:
    Agooner wrote:
    Oleguerisntthatbad wrote:
    Obispo wrote:
    Pierre Littbarski wrote:
    The big problem for Riquelme is that his lack of physical qualities make it tough for him and he hasn't really got a big enough personality to be a big player at a big club.

    For "physical qualities" simply re: pace, because his upper-body strength can't be doubted.

    Put Riquelme in a team with a Deco/Essien/Makalele and he will be just fine. He just needs a top quality "bodyguard".

    Riquelme is a good player but for top teams to really look at u these days, u have to

    1) be a good dribbler or

    2) have pace

    Those are 2 important attributes in modern day football and he lacks both of them. Teams prefer players who have both but having one of them won't hinder your chances of making it at top clubs. Zidane for example lacked pace but was a good dribbler .

    Do you not think size/strength rather than dribbling was zidane's big advantage over Riquelme ?

    yeah that also count but i don't think that's the main advantage; Zidane was more trickier which enabled him to go past his man easier. His ability to pick a man with a delightfull pass wasn't as good as riquelme though.
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    Post by Oleguerisntthatbad Sat Jan 20, 2007 4:34 pm

    Agooner wrote:
    Oleguerisntthatbad wrote:
    Obispo wrote:
    Pierre Littbarski wrote:
    The big problem for Riquelme is that his lack of physical qualities make it tough for him and he hasn't really got a big enough personality to be a big player at a big club.

    For "physical qualities" simply re: pace, because his upper-body strength can't be doubted.

    Put Riquelme in a team with a Deco/Essien/Makalele and he will be just fine. He just needs a top quality "bodyguard".

    Riquelme is a good player but for top teams to really look at u these days, u have to

    1) be a good dribbler or

    2) have pace

    Those are 2 important attributes in modern day football and he lacks both of them. Teams prefer players who have both but having one of them won't hinder your chances of making it at top clubs. Zidane for example lacked pace but was a good dribbler .

    Riquelme is a good dribbler but his main advantage is that he keeps the ball very very close to him thereby making it difficult to take it off him. Villarreal has been too reliant on him always making something special instead of ordering players to stick close so that he can pass himself out of difficult situations..
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    Post by The Pröfessör Sat Jan 20, 2007 4:42 pm

    Oleguerisntthatbad wrote:
    Agooner wrote:
    Oleguerisntthatbad wrote:
    Obispo wrote:
    Pierre Littbarski wrote:
    The big problem for Riquelme is that his lack of physical qualities make it tough for him and he hasn't really got a big enough personality to be a big player at a big club.

    For "physical qualities" simply re: pace, because his upper-body strength can't be doubted.

    Put Riquelme in a team with a Deco/Essien/Makalele and he will be just fine. He just needs a top quality "bodyguard".

    Riquelme is a good player but for top teams to really look at u these days, u have to

    1) be a good dribbler or

    2) have pace

    Those are 2 important attributes in modern day football and he lacks both of them. Teams prefer players who have both but having one of them won't hinder your chances of making it at top clubs. Zidane for example lacked pace but was a good dribbler .

    Riquelme is a good dribbler but his main advantage is that he keeps the ball very very close to him thereby making it difficult to take it off him. Villarreal has been too reliant on him always making something special instead of ordering players to stick close so that he can pass himself out of difficult situations..

    disagree. Most of what he does is: control, move sideways/backwards, pass, move.... He doesn't dribble forward to ceate space for himself and his team mates.

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