Only in Germany

Schalke vs Zenit St. Petersburg : 61.000+

HSV vs Bayern : 57.000

yes, those were FRIENDLIES

the Bundesliga has the most passionate, football thirsty fans in the whole wide world (with the possible exception of Turkey)

and Argentina.

otto: Albion's No 1 fan wrote:Schalke vs Zenit St. Petersburg : 61.000+

HSV vs Bayern : 57.000

yes, those were FRIENDLIES

the Bundesliga has the most passionate, football thirsty fans in the whole wide world (with the possible exception of Turkey)

Ticketprices play no role whatsoever in this equation ?

Poor effort : try again...

So the title of this thread is confusing - if the possible "exception" to this is Turkey, how come the thread is called "only in Germany"?

I was thinking it might be more along the lines of-

only in Germany do people still wear white socks and leather sandals and think it's cool.

Or, only in Germany can growing a mullet and handlebar moustache make you LESS conspicuous

@ pele

my mother was warning me the other day that people in Germany NO LONGER wear WHITE socks with their sandals

I got a lot of evil eyes from people in the street

neither , apparently, is it still fashionable to have mustard stains on your Lederhosen

things just aren't what they once were

the country is going to the dogs

well if a ticket to see chelsea cost 5 pound. i expect their stadium to be packed

So how much were the tickets for these two games.....

Otto is right though. Only in Germany a friendly between HSV and Bayern would attract this kind of audience.

toon h wrote:Otto is right though. Only in Germany a friendly between HSV and Bayern would attract this kind of audience.

I guess many HSV fans didn't want to miss this opportunity watching Bayern Munich. In a few month all they have will be Wacker Burghausen & Co ...

punty wrote:well if a ticket to see chelsea cost 5 pound. i expect their stadium to be packed

I doubt it......

I know a West Ham fan who's wife is from Sardinia....

he used to be a season ticket holder at West Ham but hes fed up with paying £585 a season (and we are one of the cheaper ones) so he goes to watch Cagliari for about €9 a match....

toon h wrote:Otto is right though. Only in Germany a friendly between HSV and Bayern would attract this kind of audience.

hehe, ace reply

Yeah, not only do you get the most passionate crowds and the best atmospheres in Europe, but the tickets are dirt cheap as well.

What a shit country Germany is...

Can't deny Otto's original post is pretty gratuitous though...

1) tickets are cheap
2) we're in the mid-season break for the German league, so people are desperate to see some football
3) there are a lot of people in Germany

A lot of factors already mentioned.

But also maybe there is also nothing else to do there?

Boredom is not an answer. Neither is cheap ticket prices.

If this was the case then every city in England outside of London would sell out every game. Seriously, what is there to do in places like Wigan and Middlesboring? Nothing, yet they can't sell out any games.

And while people might frown upon leather sandals with white socks. I'd rather have that as a trait than having someone like Jade Goody as an everyday voice for the people and and an A-List star.

Isar Truppe wrote:Boredom is not an answer. Neither is cheap ticket prices.

If this was the case then every city in England outside of London would sell out every game. Seriously, what is there to do in places like Wigan and Middlesboring? Nothing, yet they can't sell out any games.

And while people might frown upon leather sandals with white socks. I'd rather have that as a trait than having someone like Jade Goody as an everyday voice for the people and and an A-List star.

Those same "people" voted her off Celebrity BB and her career is now in ruins. If anything, the Jade Goody debacle has proved this country is very untolerant towards racism of any kind.

I can think of a million and one better examples than that to degrade the English

Isar Truppe wrote:And while people might frown upon leather sandals with white socks. I'd rather have that as a trait than having someone like Jade Goody as an everyday voice for the people and and an A-List star.

Says the man from a country that idolises David Hasselhoff.

You may say that now, but I have to agree with a friend of mine who knows his stuff on such matters: re "career in ruins", don't speak too soon – the idea that OK!, Heat or whatever such shite wouldn't publish a massive interview about "her BB hell" and how she's trying to rebuild her life, become a better person etc is clearly nonsense. We all know how fickle the ragbag, redtop etc media is, and likewise we've seen all the stage-managed contrition and faux grief already.

Be that as it may, that's for the off-topic board. The "culture" behind that kind of celebrity is probably what Isar has a problem with...

Tweedle wrote:

Isar Truppe wrote:And while people might frown upon leather sandals with white socks. I'd rather have that as a trait than having someone like Jade Goody as an everyday voice for the people and and an A-List star.

Says the man from a country that idolises David Hasselhoff.

This seems to be an English rather than a German obsession with the very notion of his popularity. Who the fuck is David Hasselhoff anyway? Some godawful American actor who had some surreal and surprising "musical" success in German-speaking countries. Well get over it, he doesn't represent the Germans any more than Jade does the English (rather less, in my view). At least I've never met any fans...

Are there any internationally known German TV programs?
It's to cold to take a walk in the black forest, nothing to watch on TV, the only things left are drink beer, eat sausages and watch football. And, as you get free sausages at the games, where it costs €2 entrance.
Anyway, it's mostly Poles and Austrians at the games, the Germans are to tight to go.

Allez les rouges wrote:

Tweedle wrote:

Isar Truppe wrote:And while people might frown upon leather sandals with white socks. I'd rather have that as a trait than having someone like Jade Goody as an everyday voice for the people and and an A-List star.

Says the man from a country that idolises David Hasselhoff.

This seems to be an English rather than a German obsession with the very notion of his popularity. Who the fuck is David Hasselhoff anyway? Some godawful American actor who had some surreal and surprising "musical" success in German-speaking countries. Well get over it, he doesn't represent the Germans any more than Jade does the English (rather less, in my view). At least I've never met any fans...

He's the guy who sang in a leather jacket covered in fairy lights when the Berlin Wall came down, and to this day still boasts as having played an important part i German history as a result. He'll never let you guys forget that you do realise dont you? Unlucky!

"Tuffy" Monag wrote:Are there any internationally known German TV programs?
It's to cold to take a walk in the black forest, nothing to watch on TV, the only things left are drink beer, eat sausages and watch football. And, as you get free sausages at the games, where it costs €2 entrance.
Anyway, it's mostly Poles and Austrians at the games, the Germans are to tight to go.

Bloody hell.

"Tuffy" Monag wrote:Are there any internationally known German TV programs?

Tutti Frutti with Hugo Egon Balder....oh wait, that's ripped of from the Italians

Wetten das....oh wait, that's ripped of from the Dutch

Die Heimatmelodie....nah, *no one* will watch that voluntarily


...I've got it !

Die sendung mit der Maus !

Who didn't grow up with that : todler stuff of legends !
Better than Bob the Builder, Postman Pat and the Teletubbies combined

Allez les rouges wrote:

Tweedle wrote:

Isar Truppe wrote:And while people might frown upon leather sandals with white socks. I'd rather have that as a trait than having someone like Jade Goody as an everyday voice for the people and and an A-List star.

Says the man from a country that idolises David Hasselhoff.

This seems to be an English rather than a German obsession with the very notion of his popularity. Who the fuck is David Hasselhoff anyway? Some godawful American actor who had some surreal and surprising "musical" success in German-speaking countries. Well get over it, he doesn't represent the Germans any more than Jade does the English (rather less, in my view). At least I've never met any fans...

Isar makes it appear that the British idolise Jade, they don't, at least most of us don't.

We thing she's a complete idiot and people probably only read about her so as to make themselves feel happier with their lot.

The fact she has become rich off the back of it is merely the fault of humankind for wanting to wallow in someone elses stupidity.

I now blame you bellends for putting that horrific "Jump in my Car" "song" of his in my head. I'm not happy about this.

You guys can go on believing there's "nothing to do" in places like Berlin; the longer they remain a relative secret, the better.

Even worse, you've now put the video in my head!

Song>>>>>>>Video

the popularity of Fussball in Germany should not come as a surprise

Germany and Brazil are the two REAL homes of the game

when football discovered it was born in a shed, that it was of humble origins, it did what everybody else would have done:

it sneaked out through the back door at night, took the next ferry and moved to where it was going to thrive, where it was appreciated

Deutschland + Brasilia

what most Englanders will never understand is that football in Germany is a Volkssport, a People's Sport, it's not for men in suits, it for Mr and Mrs Everybody

there is NO WAY Germans would put up with the corporization of football like you Brits do

you Englanders are INSANE

same applies to ANYTHING in England; a Twickenham Rugby Ticket for England vs Italy starts at £40; there are 70.000+ seats; you are getting robbed in broad daylight and proud of it

back to Fussball

take my beloved HSV; we have 40.000 members, most of them pretty darn dedicated

the former Fans' spokesman is now a member of the board

at the last annual meeting so many members were crowding the conference room that they effectively took over the event and held the board to account

the reason Doll is not sacked yet is because the member stand behind him

@ Englanders

you have a big problem

you are too submissive; you never stand up for your rights, you never vote with your feet or pockets , you never demonstrate

you let the suits do everything and then spout nonsense like "Supply and Demand"

when Dortmund faced liquidation they CONSULTED their fans whether they could increase ticket prices by 10%; which probably means from Euro 10 to Euro 11

when the new Bundesliga deal was negotiated even Bayern agreed NOT to go for the best offer

everybody agreed that BundesligaHighlights in the early evening on FREE TV were an human right of EVERY German

STAND UP, Englanders, and FIGHT for YOURSELVES

PS: Sendung mit Maus

Spot on. It's a culture of deep conservatism which takes for granted that this is a normal and acceptable state of affairs, that can't be better.

Capitalism at its finest.

In England its trendy to spend a lot of money on something, hence why people are willing to blow £500 on a bottle of champagne

But it's not just about the money being spent by consumers, it's how the consumers are being duped into parting with their money, and they are doing nothing about it!

The new Sky TV deal has resulted in a massive revenue increase for the top flight in England. The bottom place team will receive £27 million from next season, and I have to ask a) why the championship sides have not questioned the logic of this when they will have virtually no chance of promotion to the top division. And b) why has no one come out and demanded that with this extra income, clubs reward the consumers (their fans) by reducing ticket prices instead of increasing them???
This is very symptomatic of todays Britain. Energy and Gas prices have fallen 60% in the last year and prices have still gone up for the consumers. Rail Track and the private rail sector has had record profits and the prices have gone up on tickets again, even though the service is at a new low. It's only a question of time before people are charged for national health service.