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    Post by Puro Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:21 pm

    It is said Chelsea want Peruvian world class striker Jefferson Farfán. Apparently Piet de Visser has recommended Farfán to Chelsea management, and Abramovich is all for it.

    I think Brasileiro world class central defender Alex will also go to Chelsea with Farfán. It was my hunch 3 three years ago that they were gonna end up in Chelsea together.

    If Chelsea sign Farfán and Alex who leaves? Shevchenko and Terry? <Ale>
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    Post by Tweesus Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:23 pm

    World class? Laugh

    They're both fantastic player but 'world class' is going way too far.

    Alex needs to get a regualr run in the Brazil team first and Farfan needs to make a significant impact in the Champiosn League
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    Post by Parks lives Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:25 pm

    If Farfan came in, that would be the end of SWP.
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    Post by S4P Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:26 pm

    Wright-Phillips.

    Why would we get rid of a centre-back when that is now the area where we badly need players? scratch

    PS. Sheva's going on a goalscoring run now, trust me Ale
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    Post by Puro Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:26 pm

    Tweedle wrote:World class? Laugh

    They're both fantastic player but 'world class' is going way too far.

    Alex needs to get a regualr run in the Brazil team first and Farfan needs to make a significant impact in the Champiosn League

    Well Tweedle, many call Rooney "world class" without winning anything. At least Farfán and Alex win championships whereever they go, AND they score in Champions League against the very best teams. Farfán and Alex are World Class players without a doubt! Biggrin <Ale>
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    Post by Parks lives Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:27 pm

    S4P wrote:

    PS. Sheva's going on a goalscoring run now, trust me Ale

    After scoring 2 v Wycombe? Razz
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    Post by S4P Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:29 pm

    Parks lives wrote:
    S4P wrote:

    PS. Sheva's going on a goalscoring run now, trust me Ale

    After scoring 2 v Wycombe? Razz

    Now has as many goals as Wayne "boy wonder" Rooney this season, and is still called the biggest flop in Britain Razz

    Sheva's starting to settle in, the finishing is much better, better first touch. Trust me on this one Wink
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    Post by SuperMario Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:30 pm

    Tweedle wrote:World class? Laugh

    They're both fantastic player but 'world class' is going way too far.

    Alex needs to get a regualr run in the Brazil team first and Farfan needs to make a significant impact in the Champiosn League
    Farfan is worldclass.

    Anyway wouldn't be surprised at all if he went to Chelski. It's no secret PSV and Chelski have ties.

    De Visser recommending Farfan is logical, he's the reason he is at PSv in the first place (he's their chief scout, brought in Romario & Ronaldo too). He's Roman's personal advisor in his spare time.


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    Post by Puro Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:30 pm

    S4P wrote:Wright-Phillips.

    Why would we get rid of a centre-back when that is now the area where we badly need players? scratch

    PS. Sheva's going on a goalscoring run now, trust me Ale

    It was against Wycombe, but anyway for Chelsea's and Sheva's sake let's hope so. <Ale>

    Shevchenko is being played out of position, I doubt it but remain hopeful he can score some goals soon.
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    Post by Parks lives Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:31 pm

    1 less actually. ok
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    Post by S4P Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:33 pm

    Puro wrote:
    S4P wrote:Wright-Phillips.

    Why would we get rid of a centre-back when that is now the area where we badly need players? scratch

    PS. Sheva's going on a goalscoring run now, trust me Ale

    It was against Wycombe, but anyway for Chelsea's and Sheva's sake let's hope so. <Ale>

    Shevchenko is being played out of position, I doubt it but remain hopeful he can score some goals soon.

    The quality of the opposition shouldn't be used as an excuse for 2 well taken goals (OK, the first one was handed to him, but both were finished by the Sheva of old).

    8 goals in 30 games now I believe. It's still a poor record (even though he has changed country, culture, language and team), but he doesn't deserve to be labelled 'biggest flop in British history' whilst Rooney is still 'yet to come good this season'
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    Post by L r d Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:34 pm

    Been meaning to ask the Dutchies about Farfan actually - Has he bulked up alot or something, because I'm sure I've seen more than one of you compare him to Drogba but I always thought he was more of a second-striker type, can't say he looked very physical against us.

    Surely Mourinho would just chuck him out on the wing Rolling Eyes
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    Post by S4P Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:34 pm

    Parks lives wrote:1 less actually. ok

    Oh yeah, I forgot about the Arsenal goal.
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    Post by Parks lives Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:35 pm

    S4P wrote:

    8 goals in 30 games now I believe. It's still a poor record (even though he has changed country, culture, language and team), but he doesn't deserve to be labelled 'biggest flop in British history' whilst Rooney is still 'yet to come good this season'

    The first goal was passed to him.

    The second he was kept onside by woeful defending.


    Rooney's gotten more than enough criticism this season as well.
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    Post by SuperMario Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:36 pm

    Obispo wrote:Been meaning to ask the Dutchies about Farfan actually - Has he bulked up alot or something, because I'm sure I've seen more than one of you compare him to Drogba but I always thought he was more of a second-striker type, can't say he looked very physical against us.

    Surely Mourinho would just chuck him out on the wing Rolling Eyes
    It's muscle. The guy is increbibly strong, bit like Kuyt (Farfan is far more skilled though).

    Comparing Farfan to drogba makes no sense, totally different players.
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    Post by DD Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:38 pm

    Like the Henry WC? poll last week, I'd qualify both Farfan and alex as top class players, not WC. For the simple fact that they haven't played against enough top teams. I don't consider the fodder in CL group stages as great teams.
    But they're closer to WC than many who've been declared WC already, without playing half as good and against less tough oposition than they have.
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    Post by Puro Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:44 pm

    DD wrote:Like the Henry WC? poll last week, I'd qualify both Farfan and alex as top class players, not WC. For the simple fact that they haven't played against enough top teams. I don't consider the fodder in CL group stages as great teams.
    But they're closer to WC than many who've been declared WC already, without playing half as good and against less tough oposition than they have.

    If Farfán were from Brasil, I don't want to think what his transfer fee would cost. Farfán has been more successful than Romario and Ronaldo (while at PSV), and his goal scoring/assist is at least comparable.

    Koeman compared Farfán to Romario already. I KNOW Koeman knows his football very well. <Ale>
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    Post by DD Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:53 pm

    Puro wrote:
    DD wrote:Like the Henry WC? poll last week, I'd qualify both Farfan and alex as top class players, not WC. For the simple fact that they haven't played against enough top teams. I don't consider the fodder in CL group stages as great teams.
    But they're closer to WC than many who've been declared WC already, without playing half as good and against less tough oposition than they have.

    If Farfán were from Brasil , I don't want to think what his transfer fee would cost True, but no surprise there, as all Brazilians are born superiour footballers than the rest of mere mortals. Farfán has been more successful than Romario and Ronaldo (while at PSV), and his goal scoring/assist is at least comparable.
    Touchy subject, I wouldn't go that far. Those are two of the best footballers ever, and both had their best periods (pre-injuries) in Holland. That doesn't necessarilly reflect bad on Farfan. Farfan is very good, top class player already, has developed at PSV while taking his time, made the right decisions to stay there instead of pissing off prematurely and as a result he is one top striker who could play at any club he'd want to, and not the other way around.
    The kid has already come good, and is better than the majority of strikers at any club ok .


    Koeman compared Farfán to Romario already. I KNOW Koeman knows his football very well. <Ale>
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    Post by The Pröfessör Wed Jan 24, 2007 5:16 pm

    Very good player but a serial diver.
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    Post by DD Wed Jan 24, 2007 5:20 pm

    Agooner wrote:Very good player but a serial diver.
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    Post by The Pröfessör Wed Jan 24, 2007 5:31 pm

    DD wrote:
    Agooner wrote:Very good player but a serial diver.
    Farfall

    lol!
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    Post by SuperMario Wed Jan 24, 2007 10:48 pm

    DD wrote:Like the Henry WC? poll last week, I'd qualify both Farfan and alex as top class players, not WC. For the simple fact that they haven't played against enough top teams. I don't consider the fodder in CL group stages as great teams.
    But they're closer to WC than many who've been declared WC already, without playing half as good and against less tough oposition than they have.
    Nope that's my judgement of Farfan, him being worldclass. I could be wrong. By the way a lot of the times people say it's impossible to judge players achievements in De Eredivisie. Nobody can be world class because Kezman failed in the EPL. Well personally I never thought Kezman was worldclass, he just was at the right time at PSV with the right players around him. With Van Basten, Gullit etc you could already see they were worldclass, before they had proven anything on international level. Same was with van Persie, van der Vaart and indeed Farfan
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    Post by Owen Thomas Wed Jan 24, 2007 11:42 pm

    DD wrote:
    Agooner wrote:Very good player but a serial diver.
    Farfall

    Good one.
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Thu Jan 25, 2007 8:50 am

    jonathan de guzman wrote:
    DD wrote:Like the Henry WC? poll last week, I'd qualify both Farfan and alex as top class players, not WC. For the simple fact that they haven't played against enough top teams. I don't consider the fodder in CL group stages as great teams.
    But they're closer to WC than many who've been declared WC already, without playing half as good and against less tough oposition than they have.
    Nope that's my judgement of Farfan, him being worldclass. I could be wrong. By the way a lot of the times people say it's impossible to judge players achievements in De Eredivisie. Nobody can be world class because Kezman failed in the EPL. Well personally I never thought Kezman was worldclass, he just was at the right time at PSV with the right players around him. With Van Basten, Gullit etc you could already see they were worldclass, before they had proven anything on international level. Same was with van Persie, van der Vaart and indeed Farfan

    Spot on! I agree with you for more than 100% ok
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    Post by Tweesus Thu Jan 25, 2007 8:55 am

    jonathan de guzman wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:World class? :laugh:

    They're both fantastic player but 'world class' is going way too far.

    Alex needs to get a regualr run in the Brazil team first and Farfan needs to make a significant impact in the Champiosn League
    Farfan is worldclass.


    So he's one of the best four of five forwards on the planet?

    no...
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Thu Jan 25, 2007 8:55 am

    DD wrote:
    Agooner wrote:Very good player but a serial diver.
    Farfall

    That's his nick in the Netherlands

    Also, this could be the biggest problem for Farfan

    ... His diving would be in England not appreciated and because is not ENGLISH or English speaking BUT LATIN he will be slated off in the press very hard for every possible fall...
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    Post by SuperMario Thu Jan 25, 2007 9:23 am

    Tweedle wrote:
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    Tweedle wrote:World class? Laugh

    They're both fantastic player but 'world class' is going way too far.

    Alex needs to get a regualr run in the Brazil team first and Farfan needs to make a significant impact in the Champiosn League
    Farfan is worldclass.


    So he's one of the best four of five forwards on the planet?

    no...
    I would say about top 10, anyway better than any of the England strikers.
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    Post by Tweesus Thu Jan 25, 2007 9:48 am

    That may well be true but I'd hardly call any of the england strikers 'world class' - the only forwards I would hand that acolaid to are Henry, Eto'o and Drogba.

    Rooney was working towards becoming world class last summer but has taken a massive step back this season. I'm sure if Farfan had been compared with Rooney this time last year then Rooney would have been slightly ahead of him, hes now behind though

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