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    Post by Parks lives Fri Jan 26, 2007 11:40 am

    Paul Robinson's In Poor Form, But...

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    Wednesday night saw a very, very poor decision from Paul Robinson, and it's by no means his first mistake of the season. But if you're asking whether he should still be England's number one, I'd have to say yes.

    Unfortunately for Paul, he plays in a position where everybody notices if he has a bad game. There's nowhere to hide, and usually nobody to save you if you make a mistake. What he must do now is learn from that mistake - he'll definitely make a different decision the next time he's in a similar position.

    But one or even a handful of mistakes does not make him a bad 'keeper. And for me, there's nobody mounting a serious challenge for his England shirt. I think it's a case of 'been there, done that' with David James, and none of the other candidates are ready.

    I think if Chris Kirkland had stayed injury-free and been getting regular football, things might be a little different, but for three or four years he's been either injured or out of favour. And now he's finally playing, he's letting in loads of goals with Wigan.

    Then you have Ben Foster and Scott Carson - who have both done well, but at the end of the day, they're playing for the worst two teams in the Premiership. It's a bit different playing for Watford or Charlton than playing for England.

    Yes, they're being kept very busy, but so much of goalkeeping is about confidence, and goalkeepers get their confidence from clean sheets. There haven't been too many of those for Carson and Foster this season.

    From being around goalkeepers I know that they come off the pitch happier if they've had a very quiet game and kept a clean sheet than if they've made three or four quality saves but still let in two goals. It would be difficult to expect a goalkeeper from a poor side to then step in and play for England.

    Unfortunately for England, none of the really big sides have got English goalkeepers. The best in the Premiership are undoubtedly Petr Cech and Edwin van der Sar, who have that rare combination of being great shot-stoppers, brilliant decision-makers and have the reputation and presence to give a defence supreme confidence that if they make a mistake, the chances are that their 'keeper will not.

    That's the difference between being a great and a good goalkeeper. You see with Carlo Cuducini and David James - two of the best shot-stoppers in the business - that one chink in the armour can be exploited by the opposition and feared by his defence.

    When I think goalkeepers I think Neville Southall, who was one of the best 'keepers in the world when we played together at Everton. With him in goal, you knew that if you scored a goal, you were probably going to win the game, and you definitely weren't going to lose it.

    Tottenham players may not feel like that about Paul Robinson at the moment, but that does not mean that we suddenly dismiss him as England goalkeeper. Fast-forward a few months, and if Robinson keeps a series of clean sheets, everybody will forget that they ever had any doubts. That's a goalkeeper's lot - rather him than me
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    Post by Roger Hunt Fri Jan 26, 2007 11:45 am

    A Scotsman's view on the England goalkeeper. I don't know whether to Laugh or Sad
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    Post by Kimbo Fri Jan 26, 2007 11:47 am

    Yeah... but..... Andy Gray is a moron. Erm ok
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    Post by L r d Fri Jan 26, 2007 11:52 am

    Hes been abysmal for far to long
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    Post by DD Fri Jan 26, 2007 2:07 pm

    Out. From a neutral's view.
    Its not like he's had bad week. His faults were gladly glossed over before the world cup, but he has conclusively shown that international football (& crosses & long distance shots) are a league too high for him.
    He's underwhelmed severely, both for nation and club, but still got the necessary vote of confidence without people wanting to doubt him.
    He has cost Tottenham at least 10 points this season, and England another couple as well.

    Everyone knows he's not up to the task. He has got his vote of confidence already. He wasn't that talented and now he feels as if he's been found out and makes even more mistakes & lacks even more confidence.
    As keepers go, he's damaged goods. Harsh but the bitter truth. The question is, are you going to give him the pity vote and keep him between the sticks or are you going to find someone else to improve the goal keeping?
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    Post by Pierre Littbarski Fri Jan 26, 2007 11:00 pm

    Parks lives wrote:Paul Robinson's In Poor Form, But...



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    Then you have Ben Foster and Scott Carson - who have both done well, but at the end of the day, they're playing for the worst two teams in the Premiership. It's a bit different playing for Watford or Charlton than playing for England.

    Yes, they're being kept very busy, but so much of goalkeeping is about confidence, and goalkeepers get their confidence from clean sheets. There haven't been too many of those for Carson and Foster this season.

    From being around goalkeepers I know that they come off the pitch happier if they've had a very quiet game and kept a clean sheet than if they've made three or four quality saves but still let in two goals. It would be difficult to expect a goalkeeper from a poor side to then step in and play for England.


    Doh

    Watford have had 7 EPL clean sheets this season to Spurs' 4

    Foster 4

    Robinson 4

    Lee 3


    So that's bullshit as usual from Gray Laugh
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    Post by The Pröfessör Fri Jan 26, 2007 11:03 pm

    I reckon Aluminia could do a job for England.
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    Post by S4P Fri Jan 26, 2007 11:10 pm

    If only Cudicini hadn't been so proud, he would be England no.1. Neutral
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    Post by robl2248 Sat Jan 27, 2007 12:02 am

    Robinson should still b No.1 there is no one english as good as him so how can he wud he b replaced with David James dont make me laugh
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    Post by L r d Sat Jan 27, 2007 12:16 am

    Comments on goalkeeping from the man who brought us "anyone could keep goal behind Liverpool's defence" when asked about Pepe Reina. Glad to see that Jerzy has proved him right.

    Just give Carson or Foster a go for fuck sakes. How much worse could they really be?
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    Post by robl2248 Sat Jan 27, 2007 12:45 pm

    Robinson is the best keeper in england by far and the only reason carson and foster look good is coz the teams in front of them are completely useless
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    Post by I'm a co Sat Jan 27, 2007 3:21 pm

    no robinson has to go hes a jackass just like james and is one for the cameras diving for balls that are goign sstraight to him thus causing mistakes its out out out for me
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    Post by DS Mon Jan 29, 2007 8:12 am

    At the moment the best English keeper is James , either bring him back or put Carson/Foster in , Robinson errors are not really that happens to bad luck or something , he isnt just cut out of the international level.

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