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    Post by Parks lives Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:13 pm

    Part One



    ARSENAL



    Player Of the Season: Saying Cesc Fabregas is almost too easy, isn't it? But that just goes to show how important the still-ever-so-young Spaniard has become to the Arsenal side. Fabregas is the only player to have featured in every Premiership game for the Gunners this season - an achievement made even more impressive when you consider he has had to avoid the annual Arsenal injury curse to do so - and can lay claim to the assists for fully a quarter of their goals.


    If Arsenal had been stronger this season, Fabregas taking the ball from Cristiano Ronaldo and teeing up Emmanuel Adebayor to score the winner at Old Trafford might have been the defining moment of the title race. As it is, it serves as yet another indication that an already world-class talent is only going to get better.


    Disappointment Of The Season: One of my guilty secrets is that I quite like diving. It makes me laugh, you see, especially when done as badly as Emmanuel Eboue does it. But when you combine performances that have not lived up to the promise shown last year with petulant behaviour, outright cheating and an attitude bad enough that Arsene Wenger hauled him off at Anfield, it adds up to a player who has been more disappointing than Thierry 'I'll have a month off for Christmas, please' Henry.


    Revelation Of The Season: Robin van Persie, who has started scoring the goals that he so obviously has the potential to get, well, a lot of, and Emmanuel Adebayor, who has provided something of an answer to the 'no Plan B' accusations, both have a shout, but no-one can knock Gilberto's contribution this season. As stand-in captain in the absence of Thierry Henry, the Brazilian took his team by the scruff of the neck and dragged them through the festive period, finding the net in three straight games over Christmas.


    ASTON VILLA


    Player Of the Season: With Martin O'Neill finally making a move to bolster his wafer-thin squad in the January transfer window, hope has sprung eternal amongst the Holte End faithful that better days are just around the corner. But the most important piece of business of O'Neill's Villa tenure to date happened within a week of his arrival at Villa Park, when he persuaded Gareth Barry to turn down moves to Portsmouth and Spurs and sign a new four-year contract.


    The man O'Neill installed as club captain has certainly not let his manager down. Indeed, while all is not rosy at Villa Park in terms of league position, it would be far worse without Barry's eight league goals. Able to play at left-back or on the left wing equally well, and able to hit a penalty like only a man born in Berlin should be able to, it is surely only a matter of time before Barry finally fights his way back into the national squad.


    Disappointment Of The Season: "They are close to the bottom again and it's difficult for an individual to shine," whined Milan Baros of Villa on signing for Lyon, completely ignoring the fact that - had he scored more than one league goal, things might be rather different. There can be no more accurate summary of Baros' season than to look at his last moment in a Villa shirt - hauled off the pitch after missing a hatful of chances with the boos of a whole stadium ringing in his ears.


    Revelation Of The Season: Liam Ridgewell started the season by showing he can be a Premiership defender rather than the comedy figure he had become under David O'Leary, but his old friend from the youth team has since outstripped him to grab a place at centre-half with both hands in the absence of Martin Laursen. After missing the start of the season through injury, Gary Cahill was thrown in at the last minute against Everton, and has played every league game since. With a centre-half's uncanny knack of getting in the way of every ball, the man who became a fans' favourite during a season on loan at Burnley has every chance of doing the same at Villa Park.


    BLACKBURN ROVERS


    Player Of the Season: It should be seen as no criticism of the Blackburn squad that Brad Friedel has been their best player of the season; it's simply an acknowledgement of the fact that, as he has been for many seasons at Ewood Park, the American is worth as many points over a Premiership campaign as any other keeper in the division.


    The two most recent shining examples are the 1-0 win over Liverpool on Boxing Day and the 3-0 victory over Manchester City last weekend. It's easy to credit a goalkeeper with a major role in a 1-0 win - and Friedel certainly deserves credit for his performance against Liverpool - but without him and a string of point-blank saves, the 3-0 win over Manchester City could have been a 3-0 loss.


    Disappointment Of The Season: He might be widely seen as their best attacking player, but the fact remains that Morten Gamst Pedersen has contributed just three goals and three assists to the Premiership cause since September. The good news is that four of those six statistics - two goals and two assists - have come in 2007, but that Pedersen has recently found the form that made him a target for Spurs in the summer and even led to rumours of Manchester United's interest, doesn't hide the fact that he went missing for more than three months before the New Year.


    Revelation Of The Season: David Bentley could argue that his name should be here, as could Matt Derbyshire of late, but having been linked with a move to the Premiership for as long as anyone can remember, there were always doubts as to how Benni McCarthy would actually perform. 14 goals so far suggest he's not taking too much time to settle and has given Blackburn an instant replacement for Craig Bellamy. And Rovers fans can also take a smug satisfaction in Bellamy only having half of that tally to his name so far this campaign.


    BOLTON WANDERERS


    Player Of the Season: Ooh, there's always something endearing about a 'love 'em or hate 'em' player, isn't there? It's always good to see the crowd giving a player stick only for him to ram it down their throats - and that's been done no better this season than by El-Hadji Diouf at Newcastle.


    As in every game, El-Hadji Diouf - a nasty little toe-rag, make no mistake - was booed from the word go and was being kicked by his oppponents...and responded by netting two goals and running to celebrate by taunting the opposition fans. A joyful wave to the crowd before taking a corner just added to the pantomime villain effect that, for the most part, makes people overlook what an outstanding player Diouf is. Don't.


    Disappointment Of The Season: Remember Kevin Nolan? A free-scoring attacking midfielder once touted for the England squad by people and places other than Kevin Nolan's BBC column? That's surely not the same man who has drifted through this season with a grand total of one Premiership goal and zero assists and dropped off the national radar almost entirely until Sunday's goal against Arsenal? Is it? Really? Expect to see him in the next England squad, then, knowing Steve McClaren.


    Revelation Of The Season: Between them, Ivan Campo and Gary Speed have spent a combined 70 years on the planet. Between them they've spent a combined 4026 minutes on Premiership pitches this season. They haven't been wasted minutes either - Gary Speed still covers more ground than players 20 years his junior, and Campo has filled in in almost every position going this season. To say you wouldn't expect it of men their age doesn't do it justice; Bolton will be hoping both of them play until they're 50.


    CHARLTON ATHLETIC


    Player Of The Season: Darren Bent has knocked in eight goals this season for a woeful Charlton side, but he hasn't done half as much in the effort to fight off relegation as Scott Carson. Make no mistake - this Charlton side has been woeful all year. Throw in three new managers and you might expect them to be sitting rock bottom of the table. Thanks to Carson's efforts, they're still in with a chance of survival.


    Whether he makes it into the first team at Liverpool when his loan eventually runs out is doubtful; Rafa Benitez clearly prefers Pepe Reina. That being the case, whichever team gets hold of Carson can count themselves very lucky indeed.


    Disappointment Of The Season: '90% of the players' is the obvious answer, but a more in-depth investigation of Charlton's problems invariably comes to rest focused firmly on the board. Whether you think Iain Dowie was sacked too soon or should never have been appointed, the board is to blame either way. And the farce that was Les Reed's term in office heaps shame on everyone connected with it, from the bizarre appointment of a relative unknown bank manager to the Christmas Eve sacking.


    Revelation Of The Season: Are a handful of decent performances from Andy Reid earlier in the season enough to qualify him for this? No? Well then, Djimi Traore. He came, he saw, he was rubbish and he was shipped out at the first opportunity. But - and it's a big but - he kicked Jermaine Pennant in the face. That's got to be worth something.


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    Post by Parks lives Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:14 pm

    Part Two

    Adam Fraser continues his look at each team's player of the season so far as well as the disappointments and revelations. So it's Chelsea, Everton, Fulham, Liverpool and Citeh...


    CHELSEA


    Player Of the Season: He's big, he's bad, he tops the Premiership scoring charts and he's frankly unstoppable if he's on form. Didier Drogba was widely expected to be a peripheral figure at Chelsea this season when the signing of Andriy Shevchenko was announced - the Ivorian would either be on the bench or shunted out of position.


    We couldn't have been more wrong, could we? Drogba rose to the challenge to cement his place as number one striker at Chelsea, and arguably the country. If the Blues do overhaul Manchester United to win the league, it's probably going to have to be down to him.


    Disappointment Of The Season: There couldn't be any position less open to debate, really, could there? While Michael Ballack has failed to have any impact whatsoever - and not even looked in the slightest bit bothered - it is the much harder-working Andriy Shevchenko who has been the real let-down for Chelsea fans this season. At AC Milan he was widely thought of as the best striker in Europe. Now he's only the second-best striker at Chelsea because Salomon Kalou really is rubbish.


    Revelation Of The Season: When Michael Ballack signed for Chelsea, no-one thought Michael Essien would get a game. As it is, he's one of only three Premiership midfielders to have played every minute of every match, and he's done it bloody well. His season will be remembered for battling performances and a strike that would grace any Goal Of The Season compilation - a far cry from this time last year, when he was just 'that thug from Chelsea'.


    EVERTON


    Player Of the Season: People talk about the goals provided by Andy Johnson, or the impact Tim Cahill can have from midfield, but ask any Everton fan and they'll tell you that their current solid position - just two points off Europe in seventh place - has been built on the broad shoulders of Joleon Lescott, whose move from Wolves may end up costing the Toffees £5m and will still have been a bargain.


    As a rock at centre-half and filling in more than adequately at left-back when injuries have demanded, only the current glut of solid English centre-halves might prevent Lescott adding international appearances to his Under-21 caps. Whether he'll be in the squad that faces Spain in February remains to be seen - but if he were at a more fashionable club (one that played in London or in red) he would be a shoo-in.


    Disappointment Of The Season: The days when James Beattie won five England caps are long gone, but a return of two goals from 908 minutes of Premiership football this season tells a damning story all the same. He would point to the time spent on the bench as Everton play 4-5-1 in mitigation - but the simple fact is that Everton look better without Beattie on the pitch. And that's not a good thing to say about any footballer.


    Revelation Of The Season: One of the reasons Everton fans are less than concerned about Beattie's form has been the emergence of Victor Anichebe. Having scored on the last day of last season, Anichebe had a fantastic pre-season and has shown glimpses of a very promising talent, combined with as good a work-rate as you'll see anywhere in the league. Okay, he only has as many Premiership goals this season as Beattie...but that just goes to show that stats aren't everything.


    FULHAM


    Player Of the Season: As the best example of a traditional English centre-forward (well, nationality excepted) plying his trade in the Premiership, Brian McBride is a fans' favourite in F365 Towers as well as Craven Cottage. As usual this season, he's hardly been prolific but has scored a steady amount of goals - ten, to be exact. That's as many as any other three Fulham players added together.


    The big McBride question has always been how effective he would be alongside a genuine goalscorer. He has the workrate, aerial ability and unselfishness to help an out-and-out striker score bucketloads - but would he actually cut the mustard? With Vincenzo Montella alongside him for the second half of the season, we might finally get an answer.


    Disappointment Of The Season: It's not his fault in any way, but there can be no doubt that the most disappointing moment of the season for Fulham fans was when Jimmy Bullard broke his leg against Newcastle United. The capture of everyone's favourite Seventies midfielder was one of the coups of the summer, and was looking better every game - netting twice in his first three appearances. Unfortunately, his fourth saw him leave the pitch on a stretcher.


    Revelation Of The Season: If I was writing this in May, I've got a sneaky feeling Vincenzo Montella might be the focus of this section. For now, though, the plaudits have to go to a man who was known best in the summer for his love of David Hasselhoff, and now...well, still is, to be honest. But Moritz Volz is also known as a solid defender who has filled in midfield for his injury-hit side - and if he wanted a perfect way to endear himself to Fulham fans, netting the Premiership's 15,000th goal against their local rivals should have done the trick.


    LIVERPOOL


    Player Of the Season: The only player in this article that our own John Nicholson has compared to a household pet this season - publicly, at least - Dirk Kuyt is in the admirable position of only having been left out of two Premiership games in 24 matches under Rafa Benitez's rotation-friendly stewardship.


    With nine goals to his name, the Dutchman has hardly made the goalscoring impact his countryman Ruud van Nistelrooy did upon arrival in the Premeirship - but it's quite possible he's covered more English ground already than Van Nistelrooy did in five years. And yet he still has a striker's instinct for goal, as underlined by his crucial opening effort against Chelsea in Rafa Benitez's first league win over the Blues.


    Disappointment Of The Season: The other goal in that win over Chelsea was, of course, scored by Jermaine Pennant. But it doesn't disguise the fact that the man tipped by Pete Gill back in August to be the season's surprise over-performer has, for the most part, been about as useful to a team that dreams of winning the league as compulsory leg amputations for the rest of the squad.


    Revelation Of The Season: On November 12, Arsenal beat Liverpool 3-0. The next game saw Daniel Agger replace Sami Hyypia at centre-back. Liverpool have conceded one Premiership goal since then. With Jamie Carragher guaranteed a starting position, Agger faced a fight to make the other defensive position his own - and he's winning it admirably.
    MANCHESTER CITY


    Player Of the Season: While Kevin Nolan has disappointed for Bolton, his fellow bloke-everyone-says-should-get-a-go-for-England-instead-of-Lampard Joey Barton has carried on where he left off last season - even endearing himself to the public by upsetting the Chelsea midfielder when he criticised his decision to release an autobiography. But the Man City captain hasn't outperformed his fellow ex-bad boy Richard Dunne.


    Amid all the talk of Sylvain Distin refusing to sign a new contract, his partner at the back has quietly plugged away. Remarkably, City didn't concede a goal at home until November - a statistic largely due to Dunne's willingness to throw himself in front of any and every shot, run or opponent. And with the squad's strikers misfiring so badly, they've certainly appreciated his contribution.


    Disappointment Of The Season: There are 15 players on the Premiership top scorers list who have scored more goals than Manchester City's three main strikers added together. Between them, Giorgios Samaras, Darius Vassell and Bernardo Corradi have scored just seven goals this year. Corradi is the real villain of the piece - only scoring in one game this season (against Fulham, nice celebration) and having had to endure a public dressing-down from Stuart Pearce after he was sent off for diving.


    Revelation Of The Season: I haven't entirely bought into the Micah Richards hype. To read most newspapers, even normally respectable ones, you'd think he was the second coming of Jesus. Except as a right-back. But there's no denying that he has real quality, and more potential. Having popped up in the second half of last season with that memorable goal at Aston Villa and even more memorable post-match interview, he has appeared in every game but one for City this season and made his England debut aged 18. Now that's what we call a breakthrough.


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    Post by Parks lives Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:14 pm

    Part Three comes tomorrow.
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    Player Of the Season: He's big, he's bad, he tops the Premiership scoring charts and he's frankly unstoppable if he's on form. Didier Drogba was widely expected to be a peripheral figure at Chelsea this season when the signing of Andriy Shevchenko was announced - the Ivorian would either be on the bench or shunted out of position.

    Bollocks. Everyone could see from the first 2 seasons what Didi was capable of, and the moment he started to play in a 2 up front with Hernan Crespo, he was scoring more goals.


    We couldn't have been more wrong, could we? Drogba rose to the challenge to cement his place as number one striker at Chelsea, and arguably the country. If the Blues do overhaul Manchester United to win the league, it's probably going to have to be down to him.

    Follows on from my last point. I laughed when people said he was going to be a reserve.


    Disappointment Of The Season: There couldn't be any position less open to debate, really, could there? While Michael Ballack has failed to have any impact whatsoever - and not even looked in the slightest bit bothered - it is the much harder-working Andriy Shevchenko who has been the real let-down for Chelsea fans this season. At AC Milan he was widely thought of as the best striker in Europe. Now he's only the second-best striker at Chelsea because Salomon Kalou really is rubbish.

    Bollocks again. Kalou can do everything but finish. Hardly the finished article either. Shevchenko has been more impressive than Ballack imo too.


    Revelation Of The Season: When Michael Ballack signed for Chelsea, no-one thought Michael Essien would get a game. As it is, he's one of only three Premiership midfielders to have played every minute of every match, and he's done it bloody well. His season will be remembered for battling performances and a strike that would grace any Goal Of The Season compilation - a far cry from this time last year, when he was just 'that thug from Chelsea'.

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    Post by theflyingfrenchman Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:25 pm

    Spot on about Bolton.
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    Post by Kevin Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:48 pm

    Football 365 are fun to read but have a habit of wiriting off any foreigner who doesnt settle immediately...
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    Post by debaser Wed Jan 31, 2007 12:29 am

    Parks lives wrote: but without him and a string of point-blank saves, the 3-0 win over Manchester City could have been a 3-0 loss.
    this makes no sense.

    gets villa about right. suprised no mention for agbonlahor as revelation because he has come straight from the reserves/youth team to playing every single minute of the season and scoring against liverpool/chelsea/utd.
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    Post by Roger Hunt Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:01 am

    I think JP for our disappointment of the season is harsh.

    I would favour Riise - and if you had done this in November, Alonso would have been in with a shout.
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    Post by Parks lives Thu Feb 01, 2007 10:38 am

    Adam Fraser continues his look at each team's player of the season so far as well as the disappointments and revelations. So it's ManYoo, Boro, Newcastle, Pompey and Reading...





    MANCHESTER UNITED


    Player Of The Season: For lovers of highlights reels, fancy stepovers, long-range drives and greasy hair, there's Cristiano Ronaldo. Yes, the chap whose Premiership career was over in the summer because of that spat at the World Cup, and whose form since has been simply exceptional.


    For lovers of precision passing, quietly controlling games, long-range volleys and ginger hair, there's Paul Scholes. Yes, the chap whose Premiership career was over in the summer after he missed a large part of last season with serious eye problems, and whose form since has been simply exceptional.


    No, I can't separate them.


    Disappointment Of The Season: I don't buy into the whole 'criticise Wayne Rooney, praise Wayne Rooney, criticise Wayne Rooney' cycle that seems to be fashionable these days, but it must be said his form has been less impressive than one would expect of the talisman of a side top of the league. Still, even if he's in a slump, United look twice as dangerous with him on the pitch. And, lest we forget and though I'm sick of saying it to people who have written him off: He's. Still. Only. 21. Years. Old.


    Revelation Of The Season: The first time I remember hearing about Nemanja Vidic was back in 2004, when then-Aston Villa manager David O'Leary flew to Russia to watch him, before reporting that Spartak Moscow wanted £10m for his services. Unsurprisingly, Doug Ellis said no. And last season, after United forked out £7.2m for a man who looked immediately out of his depth, it looked like Doug had got it right. Fast-forward 12 months and the Serbian is, for my money, as good as any centre-back in the division.





    MIDDLESBROUGH


    Player Of The Season: Aiyegbeni Yakubu is as good a striker as you'll find outside of the Big Four. And because of that, he hasn't been Boro's leading light - 12 goals is all very well, but the Nigerian should be too good to have failed to find the net on 19 occasions this season, even with Boro's often woeful midfield providing the service.


    No, while Yakubu is the best player Boro own, he isn't the best to have worn their shirt this season. That accolade goes to local lad and (still a) Real Madrid player Jonathan Woodgate, who for all his injury problems has completed 90 minutes in all but four of Boro's Premiership games, and been bloody useful while he's been there. Back into the England squad? He should be.


    Disappointment Of The Season: No, Massimo Maccarone doesn't count - we all knew he was rubbish anyway. But some of us weren't sure about Stewart Downing. A man with undoubted talent, and an undoubted failure to make use of it 90% of the time. Downing has the potential to play at the very top level of football. But with that comes a real danger of still being talked of as having potential when he's 28 years old. Still, he had his first good game of the season against Bolton, so the England squad beckons...


    Revelation Of The Season: While most of the Boro squad have done what is expected of them this season - well, apart from Mr Woodgate getting a long-term injury - one man has come from nowhere to make his position his own. After Julio Arca was embarrassed at left-back in Boro's first game of the season, in came the young Andrew Taylor - and he's quietly plugged away ever since. No, he's not spectacular. But give me a steady boring full-back over a flashy inconsistent one any day.





    NEWCASTLE UNITED


    Player Of The Season: The smug satisfaction of being proved right means I can take great pleasure in James Milner's performances this season. Having tipped the Newcastle winger for an England place last season to widespread mockery, his role in their mid-season revival is pleasing in the extreme.


    Possibly even more so for James Milner, of course. Having been shunted out of Toon to Villa last season, he faced a fight to convince the Villa faithful that he was up to the challenge of replacing Nolberto Solano. It was a challenge he met head on - and then had to face again when he returned to St James' Park. A tearful plea on transfer-deadline day in August to be allowed to return to Villa was turned down - and Milner has never looked back.


    Disappointment Of The Season: The £5m capture of Damien Duff was widely touted as the best bit of business of last summer. This was a man who had gone to Stamford Bridge for £17m - before Chelsea paid silly money for everyone - and who had apparently been the subject of a £10m bid from Spurs that Chelsea turned down because they didn't want him to join a potential rival. So what happened? An initial failure to settle and a long-term injury, that's what. Newcastle fans will be hoping that 2007 is significantly better for the Irishman than 2006.


    Revelation Of The Season: Admit it - you laughed when Newcastle signed Antoine Sibierski, didn't you? Come on, don't be shy, we all did. The big-name deadline day signing we all expected turned out to be a Man City reject. One injury crisis later and the bald Frenchman is a key part of the Newcastle squad - even named as "our most important player" by Glenn Roeder in October - and the scorer of three crucial UEFA Cup goals. Not bad for a freebie.





    PORTSMOUTH


    Player Of The Season: This year's been one long Indian summer at Pompey. Sol Campbell and Nwankwo Kanu had been long since written off by their clubs and by neutral fans, while David James was widely expected to be leaving Man City for Portsmouth merely to pick up a whacking great pay cheque. And all three were expected (and probably expecting) to be battling relegation.


    Instead, inspired performances from all three leave Pompey sitting sixth in the table and with a real chance of European football next season. Even Steve McClaren - the man who axed Sol Campbell from the England squad by answerphone - has admitted the centre-back could force his way back into the reckoning. It might be a bad idea, and McClaren's opinion is hardly the most respected, but it sums up both Campbell and Pompey's season.


    Disappointment Of The Season: When a team is overachieving as much as Pompey, most of their players are clearly performing to a high standard. That being the case I could use this section to have a good giggle about the Glen Johnson toilet-seat theft, or even point out that, against Man United in the FA Cup last week, he simply wasn't bothered. I'm not going to, though. Instead I'm going to point the finger firmly at all Pompey's non-Kanu strikers - Messrs Todorov, Cole, LuaLua and Mwurawari - who have just 11 Premiership goals between them from 2630 minutes on the pitch.


    Revelation Of The Season: To come from nowhere and reach the point people are talking about you being in contention for an England place needs a special moment - which Matt Taylor got against Everton with that volley. But no-one should make the mistake of thinking that's all he's done this season. Even his other five goals - he's Pompey's second-highest goalscorer - don't do credit to his all-round contribution to the team this season, which has been every bit as important as the big names listed above.




    READING


    Player Of The Season: If value for money was taken into account in this section, then Kevin Doyle wouldn't only be Reading's player of the season; he'd take the award for the entire division. I'm sorry, I know you've heard it dozens of times and are as bored of it as me, but the Irishman cost Reading just £78,000.


    Discussion of that fee actually does him a disservice, though. Whether he cost £78,000 or £78,000,000 (well, maybe not that much), the fact is that Doyle's goals have helped fire the Royals to definite Premiership survival, a probable top-half finish and a possible place in the UEFA Cup. Indeed, they're only eight points off fourth place. Now they just have to hope Doyle is back from a hamstring injury as soon as possible.


    Disappointment Of The Season: Back in the dim and distant past of October, I wrote an article championing the abilities of Seol Ki-Hyeon. Since the onset of winter, the winger has drifted off radar faster than Flight 19. He's been joined in the non-setting-the-world-alight stakes by Steve Sidwell, whose performances have, admittedly, been consistent, but have failed to live up to the hype surrounding his much-publicised contract disputes last summer.


    Revelation Of The Season: Take out the goals and I could copy and paste my praise for Matt Taylor to save coming up with some new stuff about Nicky Shorey. But I won't. Shorey's three glorious assists against West Ham's shambolic defence might, like Taylor's goals, distract the casual observer from the solid nature of his performances this season. Taking absolutely no time to settle into the big time, Shorey is the embodiment of the consistency and ability that has seen his side take the top flight by storm.


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    Post by Axeslammer Thu Feb 01, 2007 11:29 am

    Thanks for sharing Parky, it's fun reading this ok
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    Post by Kimbo Thu Feb 01, 2007 11:32 am

    Parks lives wrote: and who had apparently been the subject of a £10m bid from Spurs that Chelsea turned down because they didn't want him to join a potential rival.
    No complaints, apart from this bit. Obivously bollocks, even Duff himself has said he turned down Tottenham. It had nothing to do with Chelsea thinking Spurs were "rivals", they had their bid accepted. <Ale>
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    Post by Tweesus Thu Feb 01, 2007 11:35 am

    Kimbo, where's the Milner thread?

    by now I'd have started a thread saying how much better Milner is than Lennon king
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    Post by Roger Hunt Thu Feb 01, 2007 11:39 am

    Kimbo wrote:
    Parks lives wrote: and who had apparently been the subject of a £10m bid from Spurs that Chelsea turned down because they didn't want him to join a potential rival.
    No complaints, apart from this bit. Obivously bollocks, even Duff himself has said he turned down Tottenham. It had nothing to do with Chelsea thinking Spurs were "rivals", they had their bid accepted. <Ale>

    It's a bitter irony that the one time Newcastle get a quality player without having to pay a ridiculously inflated price, he gets injured. Erm

    Kimbo - if he can manage a season for you injury-free he will be fantastic.
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    Post by Kimbo Thu Feb 01, 2007 11:40 am

    Tweedle wrote:Kimbo, where's the Milner thread?

    by now I'd have started a thread saying how much better Milner is than Lennon king
    Believe it or not i haven't been hyping Milner, when he has a good game i say so, that's all. I'm no hype merchant. :shandy:

    There's no point anyway, people here obviously prefer "flash" and hype to actual skill and end product. Nothing is going to change that <Ale>
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    Post by Kimbo Thu Feb 01, 2007 11:41 am

    Jagdroeger wrote:
    Kimbo - if he can manage a season for you injury-free he will be fantastic.
    Who needs Duff when you have N'Zogbia?
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    Post by Tweesus Thu Feb 01, 2007 11:43 am

    It was interesting what Roeder said after the game that Milner has played more games for you than any other player this season ok

    Also interesting that he was worried that he wouldn't get any first team opportunities
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    Post by Kimbo Thu Feb 01, 2007 11:44 am

    Tweedle wrote:It was interesting what Roeder said after the game that Milner has played more games for you than any other player this season ok

    Also interesting that he was worried that he wouldn't get any first team opportunities
    He's the only player that hasn't missed a game through injury all season. affraid
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    Post by Rez Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:16 pm

    Milner is a really good player, I dont think he has the x factor of Lennon, his goal yesterday was class. After his goal against United, I didnt think he would repeat the feet, but he did and scored a better goal.

    He is a really nice guy Milner, when he was at Leeds United, he used to shop were I worked, his mum used to give him £200 a wk, so she would come shopping with him, which was quite funny, as his team mates used to all come in with there entourages.
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    Post by Isco Benny Thu Feb 01, 2007 3:59 pm

    Kimbo wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:Kimbo, where's the Milner thread?

    by now I'd have started a thread saying how much better Milner is than Lennon king
    Believe it or not i haven't been hyping Milner, when he has a good game i say so, that's all. I'm no hype merchant. :shandy:

    There's no point anyway, people here obviously prefer "flash" and hype to actual skill and end product. Nothing is going to change that <Ale>

    Boo hoo, you better not be talking about Lennon, because he's been phenomenal this season, creating numerous end product, yet none of us have been dribbling over him either like you seem to think. Its more in your paranoid mind.

    Both him and Milner are having great seasons, im happy to leave it at that
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Thu Feb 01, 2007 4:25 pm

    He is. Who else could he possibly be talking about? Charles "assist the opposition" N'Zogbia?

    "Waaah, they've got playerswith a lot of potential, and are getting love 'cause they haven't wasted $hitloads like us."
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    Post by Parks lives Thu Feb 01, 2007 4:26 pm

    I'm off for the weekend tomorrow so if anyone can add part four when it comes out about lunchtime. ok
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    Post by fcb Thu Feb 01, 2007 4:53 pm

    I think Dyer should be the player of the season...controversial, I know, but after he started playing regularly the team has a whole new dimension.

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