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    Post by Deano Fri Feb 02, 2007 12:25 am

    apparently the deal involving Mascherano has found some faults...about ownership and registration...

    if there are any rule breaks then this could be the case...

    1)Mascherano will not be allowed to move to Liverpool...
    2)West Ham could be hit with a point deduction
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    Post by Dejan Savićević Fri Feb 02, 2007 12:38 am

    Source? Darn it!
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    Post by Deano Fri Feb 02, 2007 12:40 am

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/sport/football.html?in_article_id=433202&in_page_id=1779&ct=5
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    Post by Saintsar Fri Feb 02, 2007 1:02 am

    Oh shit...


    Remember Pardew assuring the press that there was no question of Tevez and Mascherano being anything other than registered West Ham players?
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Fri Feb 02, 2007 9:33 am

    Mascherano… Is NOT allowed according to the rules anyway...!

    I am afraid the FIFA will find AGAIN something to fool around with the rules to make life for both English clubs much more pleasant…. Maybe you have to put a bit extra money in Blatters pocket but that’s all…. Wink
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    Post by L r d Fri Feb 02, 2007 10:05 am

    Fuck sakes, is this not the most tiresome transfer target in the world? They're simply putting off the inevitable and ruining a players career whilst doing so.

    He's now a registered Liverpool player and Fifa themselves have backed the rule. Even if they don't let play - which is all they can prevent at this point if I've understood this correctly - he is still on a year and a half loan deal. Come the summer they'll just ratify the deal.

    Why wait? As for docking West Ham points - Bollocks. Hopefully it's nothing more than a cheap threat.
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    Post by "Tuffy" Monag Fri Feb 02, 2007 10:24 am

    Romário also has been allowed to play for more than two clubs, the fact that they were on different continents and their seasons overlapped made it an easy decission for FIFA to make.
    As for the breaking of premiership rules, if the rules are broken, clubs in the relegation battle with Wet H*m could kick up am almighty fuss, if there's a chance of them being docked points.
    With the season they are having, it almost makes one feel sorry for them.

















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    Post by L r d Fri Feb 02, 2007 10:44 am

    Typical incompotent FA. Not a surprise really as this is the same governing body who thought England would be better served putting Everton, not the champions, into the Champions League.

    If they thought something was dodgy with the Mascherano ownership then they should have looked at it back in August, not now. More incompotence on their behalf.

    As nothing will have changed in his ownership between now and then what right do they have to even question this deal? They're the ones who rubber-stamped his original move, which was shrouded in controversy, afterall.

    Probably more shit-stirring.
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    Post by Deano Fri Feb 02, 2007 10:49 am

    exactly!! they fucked up in August when they checked it all out, so its their fault....

    Everton are moaning already...and I'm just waiting for Wigan,Sheff Utd and Watford to start...

    at least Charlton can say fuck all....
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    Post by COTR Fri Feb 02, 2007 10:50 am

    Ricardo Jol wrote:Mascherano… Is NOT allowed according to the rules anyway...!

    I am afraid the FIFA will find AGAIN something to fool around with the rules to make life for both English clubs much more pleasant…. Maybe you have to put a bit extra money in Blatters pocket but that’s all…. Wink
    have you just saved this message and want to type it as many times as you can ricky despite how totally ignorant to the facts it is.

    THERE IS PRECEDENT

    have everton secured fernades yet? they were having similar registration problems weren't they?
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    Post by L r d Fri Feb 02, 2007 10:52 am

    Everton are moaning about the Fernandes deal being checked I thought? They'll probably add in a few moans about how the ban from Europe cost them a European cup aswell, they always do.

    If they're checking the Mascherano deal they should check the Tevez deal while they're at it. Of course, they won't.


    I wouldn't worry too much about it yet. It's all speculation at this point and you can guarentee if something happens both clubs will atleast take it to appeal.
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Fri Feb 02, 2007 10:54 am

    COTR wrote:
    Ricardo Jol wrote:Mascherano… Is NOT allowed according to the rules anyway...!

    I am afraid the FIFA will find AGAIN something to fool around with the rules to make life for both English clubs much more pleasant…. Maybe you have to put a bit extra money in Blatters pocket but that’s all…. Wink
    have you just saved this message and want to type it as many times as you can ricky despite how totally ignorant to the facts it is.

    THERE IS PRECEDENT

    have everton secured fernades yet? they were having similar registration problems weren't they?

    Sometimes you have to repeat things to get recognised till we know where Abraham gets his mustard from ....! FACT.... Wink


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    Post by Deano Fri Feb 02, 2007 10:55 am

    Obispo wrote:Everton are moaning about the Fernandes deal being checked I thought? They'll probably add in a few moans about how the ban from Europe cost them a European cup aswell, they always do.

    If they're checking the Mascherano deal they should check the Tevez deal while they're at it. Of course, they won't.


    I wouldn't worry too much about it yet. It's all speculation at this point and you can guarentee if something happens both clubs will atleast take it to appeal.

    they are checking the Tevez deal too....But I'm pretty sure the deals are completely different...hence why Mascherano doesn't play and Tevez does.

    I'm not going to worry at the moment anyway, not like we've gone on a points bonanza with the pair of them!
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    Post by Saintsar Fri Feb 02, 2007 12:30 pm

    Obispo wrote:Everton are moaning about the Fernandes deal being checked I thought? They'll probably add in a few moans about how the ban from Europe cost them a European cup aswell, they always do.

    If they're checking the Mascherano deal they should check the Tevez deal while they're at it. Of course, they won't.


    I wouldn't worry too much about it yet. It's all speculation at this point and you can guarentee if something happens both clubs will atleast take it to appeal.


    The problem is that, given the general incompetence of the administrating bodies, if you play Mascherano before all this shit is sorted out that you may be docked any points that you win, should they find against you and should the appeal not go your way.

    Even though it is absolutely stupid because FIFA have had any number of opportunities to stop players being part-owned by private companies, or to investigate these transfers back in the summer/autumn.
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    Post by 110% Fri Feb 02, 2007 3:51 pm

    Ricardo Jol wrote:
    COTR wrote:
    Ricardo Jol wrote:Mascherano… Is NOT allowed according to the rules anyway...!

    I am afraid the FIFA will find AGAIN something to fool around with the rules to make life for both English clubs much more pleasant…. Maybe you have to put a bit extra money in Blatters pocket but that’s all…. Wink
    have you just saved this message and want to type it as many times as you can ricky despite how totally ignorant to the facts it is.

    THERE IS PRECEDENT

    have everton secured fernades yet? they were having similar registration problems weren't they?

    Sometimes you have to repeat things to get recognised till we know where Abraham gets his mustard from ....! FACT.... Wink

    Could you actually make up your mind between FIFA and UEFA then, as before it was UEFA are bending the rules, now it's FIFA.

    If the English are so powerful, how come they are just about the only country to be banned from European competition for some years? How come they are always threatened to be thrown out of World and European Cups due to their hooligans, when others such as the Dutch are just as bad but nothing is said to them?
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    Post by Luis Fri Feb 02, 2007 3:51 pm

    have we got him yet? YAWN
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Fri Feb 02, 2007 3:58 pm

    110% wrote:
    Ricardo Jol wrote:
    COTR wrote:
    Ricardo
    Jol wrote:
    Mascherano… Is NOT allowed according to the rules anyway...!

    I
    am afraid the FIFA will find AGAIN something to fool around with the
    rules to make life for both English clubs much more pleasant…. Maybe
    you have to put a bit extra money in Blatters pocket but that’s all…. Wink
    have
    you just saved this message and want to type it as many times as you
    can ricky despite how totally ignorant to the facts it is.

    THERE IS PRECEDENT

    have everton secured fernades yet? they were having similar registration problems weren't they?

    Sometimes you have to repeat things to get recognised till we know where Abraham gets his mustard from ....! FACT.... Wink

    Could you actually make up your mind between FIFA and UEFA then, as before it was UEFA are bending the rules, now it's FIFA.

    If
    the English are so powerful, how come they are just about the only
    country to be banned from European competition for some years? How come
    they are always threatened to be thrown out of World and European Cups
    due to their hooligans, when others such as the Dutch are just as bad
    but nothing is said to them?



    Its all about the money nowadays.... You know that the FA knows that the FIFA knows that and the UEFA knows that!
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    Post by 110% Fri Feb 02, 2007 4:01 pm

    Ricardo Jol wrote:
    110% wrote:
    Ricardo Jol wrote:
    COTR wrote:
    Ricardo
    Jol wrote:
    Mascherano… Is NOT allowed according to the rules anyway...!

    I
    am afraid the FIFA will find AGAIN something to fool around with the
    rules to make life for both English clubs much more pleasant…. Maybe
    you have to put a bit extra money in Blatters pocket but that’s all…. Wink
    have
    you just saved this message and want to type it as many times as you
    can ricky despite how totally ignorant to the facts it is.

    THERE IS PRECEDENT

    have everton secured fernades yet? they were having similar registration problems weren't they?

    Sometimes you have to repeat things to get recognised till we know where Abraham gets his mustard from ....! FACT.... Wink

    Could you actually make up your mind between FIFA and UEFA then, as before it was UEFA are bending the rules, now it's FIFA.

    If
    the English are so powerful, how come they are just about the only
    country to be banned from European competition for some years? How come
    they are always threatened to be thrown out of World and European Cups
    due to their hooligans, when others such as the Dutch are just as bad
    but nothing is said to them?



    Its all about the money nowadays.... You know that the FA knows that the FIFA knows that and the UEFA knows that!

    so no answer to the questions then.

    How come they are always threatened with expulsion for hooligans while the dutch, polish etc are allowed their hooligans?

    Surely if it was money it would be easier to throw the dutch and polish out?
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Fri Feb 02, 2007 4:03 pm

    I am talking about todays FIFA/UEFA....





    And, They did with Feyenoord, didn't they...? Doh
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    Post by 110% Fri Feb 02, 2007 4:17 pm

    yeah and I'm talking about todays FIFA and UEFA which are 2 separate organisations, and I'm talking about the last couple of world cups and european cups Doh

    as for the feyenoord argument we had that already.

    In recent history every team whether rich or poor has got off leniently for hooliganism, racism etc. (look at eastern european countries, and spain, Itlay etc.). It made no difference at all how rich or poor they were.

    Finally UEFA decide to properly punish someone, unfortunately you seem to have some kind of victim mentality. I am afraid that if you do something wrong expect to get punished, and guess what, the punishment might be harsher than have been given to other people. Is it UEFA's fault? No, it's the Feyenoord hooligans fault (with of course police incompetence).
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    Post by DD Fri Feb 02, 2007 4:34 pm

    Netherlands only has club hooligans, no oranje hooligans.
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    Post by SuperMario Fri Feb 02, 2007 4:43 pm

    @110%
    Even the Dutch club hooligans have done nothing close to the what English hooligans did (and do).

    I was at the Feyenoord terrace when it was attacked by Spuds hooligans in 83. 40 (FORTY) SEVERELY INJURED. Lots of people stabbed (by ENGLISH). If you add up all Dutch club Hooliganism it's less than that single incident. Only riots with the police, only minor injuries.

    National team nothing, apart from maybe 2 drunk people fighting in a pub. ZILCH. UEFA/FIFA gave us awards for being the best fans. National team fans are like the Scots and the Irish, they just want to have a good time.

    On the other hand there are still problems around England matches. Charleroi, Albufeira, WC2006. Even racism v Henke Larsson!
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    Post by D-agger Sat Feb 03, 2007 2:53 am

    BTW is daily mail that reliable??? Suspect

    i didnt see any such news anywhere else!
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    Post by forza_rossi Sat Feb 03, 2007 3:13 am

    Tabloids are never reliable mate. The only British paper regarding sports i hold some little amount of faith in is The Guardian.

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