italia 0-2 croatia

the italia reserves are being soundly beaten

4 sampdoria players in the starting 11 too. looks like we are in for a great season

Who scored for Croatia? I hope Klasnic did.

blutgraetsche wrote:Who scored for Croatia? I hope Klasnic did.

Da Eduardo and Luka Modric

lol, thats my excuse. brazilians are playing against us.

i dont know what donadoni is thinking. he is playing gennaro delvecchio who hasnt even hardly played for sampdoria!

Cheers Sheffield gunner. Would have liked him to score, would have gave him confidence for the match against Leverkusen on Saturday.

i dare say he wll score mate. from what i can gather the italia reserves are poor.

What's the team?

Are any of Liverani, Gobbi or Pasqual playing ?

Pasqual must be.

Hardrada wrote:What's the team?

Are any of Liverani, Gobbi or Pasqual playing ?

Pasqual must be.

amelia
zenoni
falcone
terlizzi
chiellini
delvecchio
liverani
ambrosini
esposito>>>off for semioli

lucarelli
rocchi

oh ffs

Pasqual >>>>>> Chiellini

hes on the bench mate

we also have di michele,di natale and carraciollo on the bench

Hardrada wrote:oh ffs

Pasqual >>>>>> Chiellini

I concur.

Also...

Death > Liverani
Brighi > Ambrosini

palombo and di michele on for liverani and rocchi

5 samp players on now

lucarelli off for caraciollo

ambrosini off for gobbi

italian_hammer(DEANO!) wrote:ambrosini off for gobbi

Palombo is a Viola youth product...

palombo is a samp dude!

we lost 2-0. ah well 50,000 fans who turned up wont be happy

What a disgusting line up... has donadoni gone mad???

I could make a better starting XI than that!!!

I fear for Italy....

bluenine wrote:What a disgusting line up... has donadoni gone mad???

I could make a better starting XI than that!!!

I fear for Italy....

i havent a clue what the fuck he is playing at

i havent even seen gennaro delvecchio play for samp yet hes playing for italy!!

sack him now, appoint me! i'll bring in fiore

FOR CHRISTS SAKE!

Did any of you WATCH this game?!!!

Did you understand the CONTEXT behind this fixture?

I suspect not.

Oh dear, our FOURTH team loses 2-0 to Croatia. Quick! Sack Donadoni, Azzurri finished, Italy crap etc etc.

The result is NOT a disaster, this is a meaningless game 'given' to Donadoni and staged in Livorno for 'political' reasons, an effort to 'reclaim' the South, and it backfired spectacularly tonight!

Fortunately, this organised 'protest' that the Livoron ULTRAS had been promising for the last week didn't materialise although the atmosphere was cold and edgy.

As regard the game, well of course it was a ridiculous poor line-up and squad, we knew this before the squad was even announced, why the surprise? Donadoni's REAL first match and test comes against Lithuania and France - THEN we can start to judge him, i.e. when he has the full players at his disposal.

As regard the game, well we were simply caught out on the break. We weren't outplayed, in fact we were unlucky and wasteful of our chances.

Rocchi missed a few chances early in the match and should have done better but looked sharp, ditto Lucarelli. Rocchi hits the bar, Rocchi misses a one on one versus the Croatia keeper etc. Croatia took the lead from a Brazillian ????? That was Liverani's fault anyway.

Srna was a DISGRACE all evening and was incredibly fortunate thanks to the referee to saty on the pitch. Two disgusting tackles on Del Vecchio.

Amelia's reflexes were as good as ever, his handling though was very suspect and led to Modric's goal before halftime.

Again in the second half we were good in patches, again wasting a number of chances through Lucarelli and were perhaps lucky not to conceed further. Semioli looked lively and frequently looked to deliver into the box, unfortunately with no results.

It was not nice to lose our record, but it was a meaningless match, we have FOUR STARS on our shirt, something no other European nation can boast and i wouldn't swap one of those stars for a 4-0 win over Greece or a win tonight.

Let's judge Donadoni AFTER our two qualifiers, and let's also for those Anglo-Italian fans who come from outside the country try to understand the historical context of inherent Italian problems - the North/South divide and regional attitudes to La Nazionale, i can assure you that nobody in Italy really gives a toss about this result, most only care when the team reaches a semi-final, the reaction on here has been laughable.

Fellow Azzurrini, i am disappointed in you this evening,

of course we are over reacting a bit.... but did Donadoni have to play his 4th team???

Why couldn't he give experience to some more of the promising players?? In this line up, the only ones who probably deserved being tested in a friendly were Amelia, Chiellini, Terlizzi, Semioli, Lucarelli and Esposito...

thats it.

shocking.

What about Pasqual, Tavano, Bovo, Miccoli, Maresca, Brighi, etc??? Wouldn't it have been nice if they had a game for the azzurri under their belts?? Guys who can actually play for the Azzurri startin XI??

The friendlies may be meaningless in terms of result, but they are NOT pointless!!

Pirlo wrote:FOR CHRISTS SAKE!

Did any of you WATCH this game?!!!

Did you understand the CONTEXT behind this fixture?

I suspect not.

Oh dear, our FOURTH team loses 2-0 to Croatia. Quick! Sack Donadoni, Azzurri finished, Italy crap etc etc.

The result is NOT a disaster, this is a meaningless game 'given' to Donadoni and staged in Livorno for 'political' reasons, an effort to 'reclaim' the South, and it backfired spectacularly tonight!

Fortunately, this organised 'protest' that the Livoron ULTRAS had been promising for the last week didn't materialise although the atmosphere was cold and edgy.

As regard the game, well of course it was a ridiculous poor line-up and squad, we knew this before the squad was even announced, why the surprise? Donadoni's REAL first match and test comes against Lithuania and France - THEN we can start to judge him, i.e. when he has the full players at his disposal.

As regard the game, well we were simply caught out on the break. We weren't outplayed, in fact we were unlucky and wasteful of our chances.

Rocchi missed a few chances early in the match and should have done better but looked sharp, ditto Lucarelli. Rocchi hits the bar, Rocchi misses a one on one versus the Croatia keeper etc. Croatia took the lead from a Brazillian ????? That was Liverani's fault anyway.

Srna was a DISGRACE all evening and was incredibly fortunate thanks to the referee to saty on the pitch. Two disgusting tackles on Del Vecchio.

Amelia's reflexes were as good as ever, his handling though was very suspect and led to Modric's goal before halftime.

Again in the second half we were good in patches, again wasting a number of chances through Lucarelli and were perhaps lucky not to conceed further. Semioli looked lively and frequently looked to deliver into the box, unfortunately with no results.

It was not nice to lose our record, but it was a meaningless match, we have FOUR STARS on our shirt, something no other European nation can boast and i wouldn't swap one of those stars for a 4-0 win over Greece or a win tonight.

Let's judge Donadoni AFTER our two qualifiers, and let's also for those Anglo-Italian fans who come from outside the country try to understand the historical context of inherent Italian problems - the North/South divide and regional attitudes to La Nazionale, i can assure you that nobody in Italy really gives a toss about this result, most only care when the team reaches a semi-final, the reaction on here has been laughable.

Fellow Azzurrini, i am disappointed in you this evening,

Pirlo wrote:FOR CHRISTS SAKE!

Did any of you WATCH this game?!!!

Did you understand the CONTEXT behind this fixture?

I suspect not.

Oh dear, our FOURTH team loses 2-0 to Croatia. Quick! Sack Donadoni, Azzurri finished, Italy crap etc etc.

The result is NOT a disaster, this is a meaningless game 'given' to Donadoni and staged in Livorno for 'political' reasons, an effort to 'reclaim' the South, and it backfired spectacularly tonight!

Fortunately, this organised 'protest' that the Livoron ULTRAS had been promising for the last week didn't materialise although the atmosphere was cold and edgy.

As regard the game, well of course it was a ridiculous poor line-up and squad, we knew this before the squad was even announced, why the surprise? Donadoni's REAL first match and test comes against Lithuania and France - THEN we can start to judge him, i.e. when he has the full players at his disposal.

As regard the game, well we were simply caught out on the break. We weren't outplayed, in fact we were unlucky and wasteful of our chances.

Rocchi missed a few chances early in the match and should have done better but looked sharp, ditto Lucarelli. Rocchi hits the bar, Rocchi misses a one on one versus the Croatia keeper etc. Croatia took the lead from a Brazillian ????? That was Liverani's fault anyway.

Srna was a DISGRACE all evening and was incredibly fortunate thanks to the referee to saty on the pitch. Two disgusting tackles on Del Vecchio.

Amelia's reflexes were as good as ever, his handling though was very suspect and led to Modric's goal before halftime.

Again in the second half we were good in patches, again wasting a number of chances through Lucarelli and were perhaps lucky not to conceed further. Semioli looked lively and frequently looked to deliver into the box, unfortunately with no results.

It was not nice to lose our record, but it was a meaningless match, we have FOUR STARS on our shirt, something no other European nation can boast and i wouldn't swap one of those stars for a 4-0 win over Greece or a win tonight.

Let's judge Donadoni AFTER our two qualifiers, and let's also for those Anglo-Italian fans who come from outside the country try to understand the historical context of inherent Italian problems - the North/South divide and regional attitudes to La Nazionale, i can assure you that nobody in Italy really gives a toss about this result, most only care when the team reaches a semi-final, the reaction on here has been laughable.

Fellow Azzurrini, i am disappointed in you this evening,

Yes most people who can read Italian OR have a handle on Italian history/regional issues are privy to what you are saying. And I am sure people understood the "CONTEXT" as well. Everyone reacts differently to sitautions. Maybe you or I did not read too much into the game but that doesen't dictate other reactions.

Some over-reacted but so did you with this post.

By Scottish Logic (ie "remember 1967!"),

Croatia are World Champions.

Well done Croatia!

bluenine wrote:of course we are over reacting a bit.... but did Donadoni have to play his 4th team???

Why couldn't he give experience to some more of the promising players?? In this line up, the only ones who probably deserved being tested in a friendly were Amelia, Chiellini, Terlizzi, Semioli, Lucarelli and Esposito...

thats it.

shocking.

What about Pasqual, Tavano, Bovo, Miccoli, Maresca, Brighi, etc??? Wouldn't it have been nice if they had a game for the azzurri under their belts?? Guys who can actually play for the Azzurri startin XI??

The friendlies may be meaningless in terms of result, but they are NOT pointless!!

I agree wholeheartedly with that. I rate Donadoni and I certainly don't want him sacked. I just question his wisdom in selecting the likes of Ambrosini and Liverani when there were more impressive, younger options available.

Pirlo,

was there any reason why no one from the world cup squad (bar Amelia) wasn't selected. Was he just giving them a break or were they just unavailable?

Obispo wrote:

bluenine wrote:of course we are over reacting a bit.... but did Donadoni have to play his 4th team???

Why couldn't he give experience to some more of the promising players?? In this line up, the only ones who probably deserved being tested in a friendly were Amelia, Chiellini, Terlizzi, Semioli, Lucarelli and Esposito...

thats it.

shocking.

What about Pasqual, Tavano, Bovo, Miccoli, Maresca, Brighi, etc??? Wouldn't it have been nice if they had a game for the azzurri under their belts?? Guys who can actually play for the Azzurri startin XI??

The friendlies may be meaningless in terms of result, but they are NOT pointless!!

I agree wholeheartedly with that. I rate Donadoni and I certainly don't want him sacked. I just question his wisdom in selecting the likes of Ambrosini and Liverani when there were more impressive, younger options available.

Pirlo,

was there any reason why no one from the world cup squad (bar Amelia) wasn't selected. Was he just giving them a break or were they just unavailable?

Many players have just returned from vacation and some are not in the best condition. Some are indeed unavaliable and I also think Milan did not want to release the likes of Pirlo etc. because of the game against Red Star coming up. I am pretty sure Donadoni understood that.

I think Donadoni used this match solely as an experiment. Maybe about 3-4 of these outfield players will make it to the squad.

My only fear is that this squad represented what Donadoni thinks is the second squad of Italy (after the 22 players from Lippi's WC squad)... if that is true, then we have a problem...

Many of the talented players who couldn't make it to Lippi's squad either due to form/lack of experience/tactical reasons were not in Donadoni's squad either.... some of those names I mentioned eirlier... that scares me!

But it also could be that Donadoni did not want to call foriegn based players (Cassano, Miccoli, Maresca, etc) and some of the players who were at a critical point of the transfer market (Tavano, Fiore, etc) for a small friendly... if thats teh case, we are ok... of not, then these represent the talent of Italy in Donadoni's eyes and we are in real trouble.

Another shocker... Chiellini played the whole game over Pasqual... surely they both should ve played a half!!

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:

Obispo wrote:

bluenine wrote:of course we are over reacting a bit.... but did Donadoni have to play his 4th team???

Why couldn't he give experience to some more of the promising players?? In this line up, the only ones who probably deserved being tested in a friendly were Amelia, Chiellini, Terlizzi, Semioli, Lucarelli and Esposito...

thats it.

shocking.

What about Pasqual, Tavano, Bovo, Miccoli, Maresca, Brighi, etc??? Wouldn't it have been nice if they had a game for the azzurri under their belts?? Guys who can actually play for the Azzurri startin XI??

The friendlies may be meaningless in terms of result, but they are NOT pointless!!

I agree wholeheartedly with that. I rate Donadoni and I certainly don't want him sacked. I just question his wisdom in selecting the likes of Ambrosini and Liverani when there were more impressive, younger options available.

Pirlo,

was there any reason why no one from the world cup squad (bar Amelia) wasn't selected. Was he just giving them a break or were they just unavailable?

Many players have just returned from vacation and some are not in the best condition. Some are indeed unavaliable and I also think Milan did not want to release the likes of Pirlo etc. because of the game against Red Star coming up. I am pretty sure Donadoni understood that.

I think Donadoni used this match solely as an experiment. Maybe about 3-4 of these outfield players will make it to the squad.

Croatia are no puishovers though, so its not exactly an !embarrassing" scoreline to lose 2-0 with second string

If it were the second string, I wouldn't ve minded... this was not even that... this had most players who wouldn't make second string...

The Real White Pele wrote:Croatia are no puishovers though, so its not exactly an !embarrassing" scoreline to lose 2-0 with second string

Firslty, apologies to anybody if i have overreacted.

It is not worrying, this was more a 3rd/4th string Azzurri, the REAL test is against Lithuania and France with our REAL players.

Liverani's performance BAR the stupid crass error for Croatias goal was a positive, he was really our only creative piece of influence and created many chances.

Chiellini is not ready yet, i agree this was a step too far - there is no point bringing Pasqual and then not playing him.

@ OBI

Regarding the World Cup players, it was stated as soon as Donadoni took charge that NONE would be called up for reasons of recuperation and involvement in pre-season Euro qualifiers i.e Milan.

Ditto, as Bluenine says, those involved in transfers were not called either, nor was Cassano, but this is not a surprise because as Capello has indicated he is a fat waste of space at the moment and needs to stop muching the sweets and fizzy cola.

Lucarelli and Amelia were POLITICAL inclusions especially in the current and historical environment in Livorno and the old 'southern' problems rearing up after the World Cup, it is easy to understand why they were included in the squad.

still a match though, what the fuck is the point of playing a team of players who are unlikely to play for italy in the near future. there is no point to it. basically it was a chance for donadoni to play his best players and play about with the tactics he likes. he wasted that chance and now we go into a qualifier.