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I just looked at the tables....I couldn't believe how unstable the position is for England,Italy and Spain...or even Portugal for that matter...
What are the chances that England and Italy both don't qualify...That would be pretty unlucky for me..
Obviously its on early days and there are many games left....But things at the moment need to improve for all 4 of the above teams.
I hope Finland qualify btw.
What are the chances that England and Italy both don't qualify...That would be pretty unlucky for me..
Obviously its on early days and there are many games left....But things at the moment need to improve for all 4 of the above teams.
I hope Finland qualify btw.
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Puro wrote:Good luck to England today. Remember England can't afford to lose this match.
We can if we can safely assume the FA can find a vastly superior manager in time to save us from failure. Given that they are never going to sack McLaren, we have to win this.
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Italy and Portugal will get through just fine. It's Spain and England who really need to worry.
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Robinson
Neville
Rio
Terry
Carrager
Gerrard
Lampard
Hargreaves
Lennon
Rooney
Johnson
is our lineup
Neville
Rio
Terry
Carrager
Gerrard
Lampard
Hargreaves
Lennon
Rooney
Johnson
is our lineup
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As expected.
At least Lennon gets a start, it could've been worse
At least Lennon gets a start, it could've been worse
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Can Chelsea fans tell me how good Sahar is?
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If Lampard scores and does nothing else, does that he's back to best? If it does, does it mean he's only good for scoring goals?
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shazlx wrote:If Lampard scores and does nothing else, does that he's back to best? If it does, does it mean he's only good for scoring goals?
If he scores there will definitly be "lampard proves his critics wrong" headlines
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Tweedle wrote:As expected.
At least Lennon gets a start, it could've been worse
Who would McClaren dare to choose instead, Downing?
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Barry.
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You know I am almost wishing Israel to win this match, and look that I really like England.
I just don’t like Mclaren at all, I think he showed a little bit of bad character when he so spectacularly dropped Beckham, to be honest I think he used Beckham as a scapegoat, since he was a ease target, it was a move made to the media, he wanted to make a statement about changes, and the future and how strong and decided he would be about select the team (what a joke dear God).
I don’t think he dropped Beckham because he was playing poor or his football no longer could be used by England. And the sad part is that Beckham was one of the best England players in the last WC, at least he showed that he wanted to win that tournament.
I just can’t believe ENGLAND, one of the most famous football nations in the world, with great talented players, picked Mclaren to be their national coach, I am sorry but you CAN do better than that.
But , good luck anyway.
I just don’t like Mclaren at all, I think he showed a little bit of bad character when he so spectacularly dropped Beckham, to be honest I think he used Beckham as a scapegoat, since he was a ease target, it was a move made to the media, he wanted to make a statement about changes, and the future and how strong and decided he would be about select the team (what a joke dear God).
I don’t think he dropped Beckham because he was playing poor or his football no longer could be used by England. And the sad part is that Beckham was one of the best England players in the last WC, at least he showed that he wanted to win that tournament.
I just can’t believe ENGLAND, one of the most famous football nations in the world, with great talented players, picked Mclaren to be their national coach, I am sorry but you CAN do better than that.
But , good luck anyway.
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shazlx wrote:Tweedle wrote:As expected.
At least Lennon gets a start, it could've been worse
Who would McClaren dare to choose instead, Downing?
Downing, Barry, even Carrick maybe and switch Hargreaves out to the wing
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borocooper wrote:Robinson
Neville
Rio
Terry
Carrager
Gerrard
Lampard
Hargreaves
Lennon
Rooney
Johnson
is our lineup
Oh dear. Im telling you, the under 21s who played this morning could probably beat this lot.
Fullbacks are a massive weakness- carragher is a fabulous centreback but a crap fullback, Neville is just crap full stop, Gerrard should be playing in Lampard's position with Lennon ( or Dyer) on the right and Downing on the left.
Lennon on the left is going to be a major mistake - he's not experienced enough in that position.
Looks horribly unbalanced as per usual
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Tweedle wrote:shazlx wrote:Tweedle wrote:As expected.
At least Lennon gets a start, it could've been worse
Who would McClaren dare to choose instead, Downing?
Downing, Barry, even Carrick maybe and switch Hargreaves out to the wing
no.
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juligen21 wrote:You know I am almost wishing Israel to win this match, and look that I really like England.
I just don’t like Mclaren at all, I think he showed a little bit of bad character when he so spectacularly dropped Beckham, to be honest I think he used Beckham as a scapegoat, since he was a ease target, it was a move made to the media, he wanted to make a statement about changes, and the future and how strong and decided he would be about select the team (what a joke dear God).
I don’t think he dropped Beckham because he was playing poor or his football no longer could be used by England. And the sad part is that Beckham was one of the best England players in the last WC, at least he showed that he wanted to win that tournament.
I just can’t believe ENGLAND, one of the most famous football nations in the world, with great talented players, picked Mclaren to be their national coach, I am sorry but you CAN do better than that.
But , good luck anyway.
Cheers Jules
I think many of us English feel the same, though I do think that dropping Becks was the right decision
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borocooper wrote:Tweedle wrote:shazlx wrote:Tweedle wrote:As expected.
At least Lennon gets a start, it could've been worse
Who would McClaren dare to choose instead, Downing?
Downing, Barry, even Carrick maybe and switch Hargreaves out to the wing
no.
Sven played Hargreaves on the left a few times...
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Tweedle wrote:borocooper wrote:Tweedle wrote:shazlx wrote:Tweedle wrote:As expected.
At least Lennon gets a start, it could've been worse
Who would McClaren dare to choose instead, Downing?
Downing, Barry, even Carrick maybe and switch Hargreaves out to the wing
no.
Sven played Hargreaves on the left a few times...
The nation knows now though...Hargreaves is good. McClaren would get raped.
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Im Kind Of A Big Deal wrote:
Lennon on the left is going to be a major mistake - he's not experienced enough in that position.
Looks horribly unbalanced as per usual
Watch out for the cut-backs
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I bet it ends up being more a 4-3-3
-------------- Hargreaves
------- Gerrard --------- Lampard
---------------------------------
----- Lennon ---------------- Rooney
---------------- Johnson
-------------- Hargreaves
------- Gerrard --------- Lampard
---------------------------------
----- Lennon ---------------- Rooney
---------------- Johnson
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Parks lives wrote:I bet it ends up being more a 4-3-3
-------------- Hargreaves
------- Gerrard --------- Lampard
---------------------------------
----- Lennon ---------------- Rooney
---------------- Johnson
Since McLaren took over, the only England match in which I've seen the 11 on the pitch use a well-defined formation is in the 3-5-2 match against Croatia. Every other time the team he has picked has been completely unbalanced, kind of like Rijkaard when he's making substitutions in the 70th minute of a game we're losing.
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Cheers Jules
I think many of us English feel the same, though I do think that dropping Becks was the right decision
I just think that if you are going to drop Beckham, than drop Neville too, but I don’t know if you have any replacement for him so I will shut up.
I got the felling that Israel will park the bus and will be really difficult for England to score. Lets hope for Rooney to make a great game.
I think that would make Otto happy.
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Samba de Baiano wrote:Im Kind Of A Big Deal wrote:
Lennon on the left is going to be a major mistake - he's not experienced enough in that position.
Looks horribly unbalanced as per usual
Watch out for the cut-backs
Your probably right. He's far far better on the right, but still is very raw.
at 19 he should have been playing for the under 21s today, if he has a poor game today it'll destroy his confidence and no doubt everyone will be quick to blast him, just like Downing/Hargreaves/Carrick etc
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So..
Israel will play 5 across the midfield.
McClaren then will play a CMF player out wide right, a Right winger on the left, a left back who is right footed.
Good luck breaking them down..
England's best chances will come from set pieces.
Israel will play 5 across the midfield.
McClaren then will play a CMF player out wide right, a Right winger on the left, a left back who is right footed.
Good luck breaking them down..
England's best chances will come from set pieces.
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Im Kind Of A Big Deal wrote:borocooper wrote:Robinson
Neville
Rio
Terry
Carrager
Gerrard
Lampard
Hargreaves
Lennon
Rooney
Johnson
is our lineup
Oh dear. Im telling you, the under 21s who played this morning could probably beat this lot.
Fullbacks are a massive weakness- carragher is a fabulous centreback but a crap fullback, Neville is just crap full stop, Gerrard should be playing in Lampard's position with Lennon ( or Dyer) on the right and Downing on the left.
Lennon on the left is going to be a major mistake - he's not experienced enough in that position.
Looks horribly unbalanced as per usual
Why aren't mangers more daring when they know the players are going to be crap. I wold like to see:
Gerrard ---------Terry-----------Rio-----------Baines
Lennon----------Carrick-------Hargreaves---Dyer/milner/Bently
-------------------Rooney-------Defoe/Johnson/Bent
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Target Man wrote:So..
Israel will play 5 across the midfield.
McClaren then will play a CMF player out wide right, a Right winger on the left, a left back who is a right footed, slow, untalented CenterBack.
Good luck breaking them down..
England's best chances will come from set pieces.
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juligen21 wrote:Cheers Jules :ale:
I think many of us English feel the same, though I do think that dropping Becks was the right decision
I just think that if you are going to drop Beckham, than drop Neville too, but I don’t know if you have any replacement for him so I will shut up.
Dropping Beckham, we have the likes of Gerrard or Lennon to step in.
Dropping Gary Tache Neville and we have the world class talents of Micah Richards, Luke Young and his brother Pip Neville to step in.
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kas wrote:Parks lives wrote:I bet it ends up being more a 4-3-3
-------------- Hargreaves
------- Gerrard --------- Lampard
---------------------------------
----- Lennon ---------------- Rooney
---------------- Johnson
Since McLaren took over, the only England match in which I've seen the 11 on the pitch use a well-defined formation is in the 3-5-2 match against Croatia. Every other time the team he has picked has been completely unbalanced, kind of like Rijkaard when he's making substitutions in the 70th minute of a game we're losing.
That was more 5-3-2 as well to be fair.
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I'm going to be bold and go with a 1-0 England win, with the goal coming from a set piece (probably a Terry or Rio header).