Arsenal,MY view about this club.Enjoy <ale>

Oh dear,oh dear..I can hear you :"This thread will be boring.Excepted Arsenal fans no one gives a f..k to YOUR views about the gunners."

Arnaud:"Well..technically it's not wrong!lol.
But I hope you don't considere me as a predictable poster my friends ?!?! Of course i'm certainly not going to write a long thread just for praising a club that i don't even support! This thread will be world class don't worry."

Ok now let's start the serious things...As you surely know i have given my opinion for a lot of subjects and i have been rarely proved wrong (i hope you have noticed the MODESTY.I didn't say i'm "never wrong".i clearly said i'm "rarely wrong").Well after the Van Nistelroy is bad for MU..After the small pitch theory..after the England team is overated...the Heskey is a great player ect ect it is time now to explain to you why Arsenal's future is incredibly predictable for me.

I'm sad my gunners friends to say your future doesn't look promising at all! in fact i think this season we have already seen the "end of the Wenger lucky era".

I can already hear you gunners screaming things like "Shut up you moron Wenger knows how to buy great young players full of potential,he proved it in the recent past and if this season we have had problems it's due to the fact our team need more experience.next season we will improve bla bla bla"

Arnaud:"Oh dear...I knew english fans were predictable but this is worst that what i first thought! You are so naive and so brainwashed by medias propaganda it's amazing! Wake up and read the TRUTH"

I'm what you can call a specialist about football and i'm surely the only one in this site who knows why Wenger had so much success in England.It's VERY SIMPLE.He was in France ok ? he knew the good players in France..Ok ? then he went at Arsenal and had a decent budget..ok ? with this money he bought the great players he knew playing in the french league/other leagues(particulalry the FRENCH players Grimandi,Petit,Vieira,Henry,Diawara,Anelka ect ect )and then he kept them all during a long period and that's why Arsenal had great results and enough money to compete with MU for the league title.Ok you agree ? if it is too complicate just ask me...

But this era is now finished.As i said Wenger had a huge advantage at the time...The managers in England,excepted Fergie,knew nothing about this other leagues and it was incredibly easy for him to buy for good fees the best french/dutch world class players.
Nowadays there are 3 or 4 english clubs fighting for every 14yo french/dutch/irish kids with potential and the fees are high!

I was shocked when Arsene(if you think i call him Arsene cos i like him so you are very naive.I can't stand him)bought this F...G "amazing" talent Walcott for £12m.It was so nonsence that i still can't believe he had the back up of Arsenal's fans and directors! The french manager never been good to buy "young players".He simply bought the best mature players in France,Holland ect and then putted some youngs in the same team with these world class players.But the key players were the mature guys i'm talking about,not the youngs! It was the old english defenders+Vieira,Petit,Overmars,Berkamp ect the great not the sh:ts like Anelka or Henry.

In two words what i'm trying to explain to ,you is that Arsenal nowadays can't buy this mature world class players.Arsenal only can buy for huge stupid prices some youngs with "potential" but as i said these youngs aren't the ones you really need.That's where i think Arsene is fooling you all.I have no doubt some of the youngs at Arsenal are great,really,but they will never be good enough to carry the team in their shoulders.

I hope after reading this sh!t you have two thoughts
1)God his english is bad !
2)The guy knows his stuff.He is right Arsenal have no great future.

Thanks

What are you on mate?

No need to be so defensive Arnaud before anyone has even said anything- you DO know everything

Luis wrote: What are you on mate?

Luis my "young" friend it's very simple.

Some of my critics think i know nothing about football.it was time with this thread that i still know modestly 1 or 2 things.You'll see that sooner or later my comments will be proved right.

Laugh if you want but your english friends were laughing too when me and some others told them to believe that England was going the WC was nonsence sh!t media propaganda.Arsenal will win nothing during a long period...excepted if they sack Wenger.He is spending fortunes on bad players/not the right players.

Awful post, in more ways than one.

Arnaud is beautiful wrote:

Luis wrote: What are you on mate?

Luis my "young" friend it's very simple.

Some of my critics think i know nothing about football.it was time with this thread that i still know modestly 1 or 2 things.You'll see that sooner or later my comments will be proved right.

Laugh if you want but your english friends were laughing too when me and some others told them to believe that England was going the WC was nonsence sh!t media propaganda.Arsenal will win nothing during a long period...excepted if they sack Wenger.He is spending fortunes on bad players/not the right players.

I agree, Arsenal for relegation next season

You got one out of two right arnaud...

Luis wrote:

Arnaud is beautiful wrote:

Luis wrote: What are you on mate?

Luis my "young" friend it's very simple.

Some of my critics think i know nothing about football.it was time with this thread that i still know modestly 1 or 2 things.You'll see that sooner or later my comments will be proved right.

Laugh if you want but your english friends were laughing too when me and some others told them to believe that England was going the WC was nonsence sh!t media propaganda.Arsenal will win nothing during a long period...excepted if they sack Wenger.He is spending fortunes on bad players/not the right players.

I agree, Arsenal for relegation next season

Use irony if you want but i can see a "Leeds part 2" if Arsenal continue to spend fortunes on bad players.

Leeds too had the same problem but the problem for them is that at the time only 3 teams could play the CL and unfortunately they missed the good train (excepted 1 season).

Luis my friend,you're still young and surely believe a lot of bullshit about women and football but believe the good old Arnaud that the big majority of people are unfortunately like the wind...One day they believe something,the day after they change their minds and believe the opposite ect ect...

If Arsenal don't win soon trophy it will be impossible for them to have a stadium full of 60 000 fans every weeks.Then with the 3 places in CL i know who will be the victim of this rule:Arsenal.In 5 years i predict a huge crisis for them...

Arnaud son people don't believe you because you talk utter shit

Arsenal a Leeds part 2? Have you seen their yearly income? If anything they're spending well within themselves.

agree, Arnaud

Wenger is out of his depth; his youth policy does not work

he needs to be SACKED

Yes Wenger has only managed to win the EPL and get to the CL final along with some FA cups with his youth policy eh Otto

arsenal are the 9th richest club in europe, we will not be doing a leeds anytime soon.

Otto der Schweinehund wrote:agree, Arnaud

Wenger is out of his depth; his youth policy does not work

he needs to be SACKED

Yup...Otto mate,according to LUIS,a 15yo,i talk utter sh!t.

Aren't you worry to agree with me ? Do you remember how wrong we were when we said that Germany and France were going to have better results than England during the WC ?

Otto mate..when this WUM reputation we have will finish ? I ask you...ALL MY COMMENTS ARE BASED ON FACTS and they don't believe me.Incredible english "fans"

Rosicky wrote:arsenal are the 9th richest club in europe, we will not be doing a leeds anytime soon.

Esp not with Wenger poaching youngsters.

I agree with you in some parts Arnaud: But Walcott for example cost only 5 million pounds (which may be increased if he becoems good enough for Arsenal). This season Arsenal have been plagued with injuries. If next season they manage to bring in a decent physio then they could challenge for the title.

Rosicky wrote:arsenal are the 9th richest club in europe, we will not be doing a leeds anytime soon.

They don't let the facts get in the way of the argument Rosicky.

Arnaud is beautiful wrote:

Otto der Schweinehund wrote:agree, Arnaud

Wenger is out of his depth; his youth policy does not work

he needs to be SACKED

Yup...Otto mate,according to LUIS,a 15yo,i talk utter sh!t.

Aren't you worry to agree with me ? Do you remember how wrong we were when we said that Germany and France were going to have better results than England during the WC ?

Otto mate..when this WUM reputation we have will finish ? I ask you...ALL MY COMMENTS ARE BASED ON FACTS and they don't believe me.Incredible english "fans"

so what if i'm 15? i'm old enough to know when a stupid attention seeker is making up shit for more attention

In fairness to Arnaud, he does raise some relevant points. I don't think anyone would dispute that there is a lack of balance between experience and potential at Arsenal that needs to be addressed. Wenger's ability has always been to bring through young, talented players whilst retaining an experienced core to the side.
Spending £12m on Walcott was also a questionable decision, although it probably reflects the external pressures on Arsenal to sign and play more English players.

Mind you, Diawara a 'great player'? You must be joking!

arnaud

we should be grateful that most Englanders have a VERY limited understanding of football

the EPL is so filthy rich, that if they had any idea of what they are doing, the German and French leagues would be without a chance

since English football experts usually cannot see the wood for the balls, all the money means very little

if English football had people of the intelligence of the Bremen or Lyon board, we all would be doomed

rejoice

theflyingfrenchman wrote:I agree with you in some parts Arnaud: But Walcott for example cost only 5 million pounds (which may be increased if he becoems good enough for Arsenal). This season Arsenal have been plagued with injuries. If next season they manage to bring in a decent physio then they could challenge for the title.

Yo Flying,esere que tu vas bien..ect ect

Ouais mais en fait Arsenal a un probleme avec "l'ossature".Il manque des joueurs avec de la qualite et de l'experience..Les Toure,Lehman,Henry,Gilberto ect sont pas assez bons pour encadrer tous ses jeunes et pour avoir des resultats.Ses joueurs age et experimentes sont tous a Manchester,Chelsea,Liverpool ect et eux ont l'argent pour les garder et les entourer avec des jeunes brillants.

J'pense encore que Wenger depense trop d'argent sur des gamins qui feront rien dans un future proche...En football c'est simple.Tu peux etre champion du monde a 17ans et un total inconnu quelques annees plus tard (Pongolle,Le tallec).Wenger va mettre ce club sur la paille...

Cesc wrote:

Rosicky wrote:arsenal are the 9th richest club in europe, we will not be doing a leeds anytime soon.

They don't let the facts get in the way of the argument Rosicky.

To be fair it's been widely "reported" that you need to acheive CL qualification every year for the forseeable future as your stadium was budgeted against it. How true that is I have no idea. There's alot of shite spewed forth by the press over here.

I think Arnaud has a fair decent points in there though to be fair.

zen and the art of wrote:To be fair it's been widely "reported" that you need to acheive CL qualification every year for the forseeable future as your stadium was budgeted against it. How true that is I have no idea. There's alot of shite spewed forth by the press over here.

I think Arnaud has a fair decent points in there though to be fair.

I am not totally sure of the financial situation at the club, all I know is that the Champions League is the aim each season. As Rosicky explained above we are much better ran than Leeds Utd and over the years have spent mainly what we have recouped. Like buying Alex Hleb then selling Patrick Vieira.

I agree with you he does make some valid and decent points, albeit they are mixed in with a clear and blatant agenda.

He is spot on about the scouting these days, every club that has a reasonable amount of money knows about players for all ages and positions throughout the world of football. This is down to having a good scouting network. Because of this every club is after the best youngsters at a young age and there is a fierce amount of competition. Wenger started this now everyone is following suit, he was the pionner for this I am sure. The one advantage we have is that we have a track record of giving youth a chance.

Sheffield gunner wrote:In fairness to Arnaud, he does raise some relevant points. I don't think anyone would dispute that there is a lack of balance between experience and potential at Arsenal that needs to be addressed. Wenger's ability has always been to bring through young, talented players whilst retaining an experienced core to the side.
Spending £12m on Walcott was also a questionable decision, although it probably reflects the external pressures on Arsenal to sign and play more English players.

Mind you, Diawara a 'great player'? You must be joking!

Sheffield gunner mate you're right and you understood my point which is a little miracle considering my poor english

According to LUIS the "ultimate knwoledge about football",it was utter sh!t.Great you have noticed "some relevant points".

Yup i think too taht the balance between youngs and old WC confirmed players is important and nowadays Chelsea and co spend fortunes on this EXPERIMENTED WC talents (remember how highly were the price for buying Drogba,Sheva ect ect ?)and at the same time Arsenal spent fortunes on youngs but sooner or later this youth policy will show you the limits.Arsenal is already in crisis..You can see since Vieira left they aren't in the same category with Chelsea and MU.It will be worst when Gilberto,Lehmann and co will leave and being replaced by kids.

theflyingfrenchman wrote:I agree with you in some parts Arnaud: But Walcott for example cost only 5 million pounds (which may be increased if he becoems good enough for Arsenal). This season Arsenal have been plagued with injuries. If next season they manage to bring in a decent physio then they could challenge for the title.

TFF, arsenal have one of the best physio's around

Arnaud is beautiful wrote:

Otto der Schweinehund wrote:agree, Arnaud

Wenger is out of his depth; his youth policy does not work

he needs to be SACKED

Yup...Otto mate,according to LUIS,a 15yo,i talk utter sh!t.

Aren't you worry to agree with me ? Do you remember how wrong we were when we said that Germany and France were going to have better results than England during the WC ?
Otto mate..when this WUM reputation we have will finish ? I ask you...ALL MY COMMENTS ARE BASED ON FACTS and they don't believe me Incredible english "fans"

People view you as a WUM because you come across as a patronising, arrogant twerp whose every post seems to be about "stupid English fans" etc. etc.

Maybe try sorting out your attitude a bit, stop being so defensive and then people will gladly listen to the interesting things you have to say (because a lot of what you said is accurate and interesting but just lost in a whole load of egotistical self congratulation)

Otto der Schweinehund wrote:arnaud

we should be grateful that most Englanders have a VERY limited understanding of football

the EPL is so filthy rich, that if they had any idea of what they are doing, the German and French leagues would be without a chance

since English football experts usually cannot see the wood for the balls, all the money means very little

if English football had people of the intelligence of the Bremen or Lyon board, we all would be doomed

rejoice

Yup...Believe it or not but I heard that the french league is richest than the english league! Technically in France all the clubs must have a budget aroud £20m if they want to play in our D1...If you are even £1 behind you have to go in D2

In England some clubs spend the money they don't have and fortunately as you said they spend it on bad players! Wenger is one of them.Otto my friend,the EPL is of course full of money but their clubs have so much financial problems that they need russians,americans to save their top clubs.

That's why our FA president Thieriez hates the english,spanish and italian! he wants the UEFA to ban them from european cups! For him it's unfair to ask the french to respect tough rules and for the other ones to use their money like they want...

I Am Weasel wrote:

Arnaud is beautiful wrote:

Otto der Schweinehund wrote:agree, Arnaud

Wenger is out of his depth; his youth policy does not work

he needs to be SACKED

Yup...Otto mate,according to LUIS,a 15yo,i talk utter sh!t.

Aren't you worry to agree with me ? Do you remember how wrong we were when we said that Germany and France were going to have better results than England during the WC ?
Otto mate..when this WUM reputation we have will finish ? I ask you...ALL MY COMMENTS ARE BASED ON FACTS and they don't believe me Incredible english "fans"

People view you as a WUM because you come across as a patronising, arrogant twerp whose every post seems to be about "stupid English fans" etc. etc.

Maybe try sorting out your attitude a bit, stop being so defensive and then people will gladly listen to the interesting things you have to say (because a lot of what you said is accurate and interesting but just lost in a whole load of egotistical self congratulation)

Yeah yeah yeah..Thanks

Rosicky wrote:arsenal are the 9th richest club in europe, we will not be doing a leeds anytime soon.

Apart from your massive stadium debt.

If you miss the CL two seasons in a row your just asking for trouble, especially if the team that replaces you is in CL two seasons in a row. You could easily start slipping down the table without too much trouble if you get on that slippery sloap. Your too rich to go the full distance but you could easily be scraping around mid table if it all goes wrong, especially if Freddy Shepherd's cousin takes over you.

So wat you're saying is that there were two phases. the phase where he bought the quality and the phase over the past couple of seasons.

ITs good timing of your post btw - ie just at the point where Arsenal COULD look like finishing 5th, so if we come fifth you say 'I told you so' and if we come fourth then due to all the money in the EPL now + the improvement of Spurs, the pressure is on us to finish in the top 4 next season.

In the recent past Arsenal have signed: Diaby, Cesc, Senderos, Eboué, RVP, Adebayor, hleb, Rosicky and Denilson.

Some of them cost a bit but all of them are decent signings and Cesc and RVP in partcular have the potential to be top class.

It seems a bit of a nonsense comment to be honest as only one of those players is French (though you could say that his knowledge of France got him Adebayor).

The one thing that might Affect Arsenals future is the amount of money at clubs like Villa, Pompey, Liverpool, West Ham etc + the resurgence of Spurs.

We have also suffered greatly this season with the loss of four players that are/have been top class: Campbell, Cole, Pires and Bergkamp.

Replacing players of that calibre is very tough