Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.

+4
Diaper FC
Fey
Tweesus
Sgoater1
8 posters

    Ex Thai PM linked with £92m City take over

    Sgoater1
    Sgoater1


    Number of posts : 11129
    Age : 41
    Supports : Man City
    Registration date : 2006-08-06

    Ex Thai PM linked with £92m City take over Empty Ex Thai PM linked with £92m City take over

    Post by Sgoater1 Mon Apr 23, 2007 1:23 pm

    Former Thai Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra is reported to be lining up a move to buy Manchester City.

    The 57-year-old has been linked with gaining a controlling interest in a Premiership club before after he failed in a bid to buy a stake in Liverpool in 2004.

    City chairman John Wardle is believed to be considering offers for the club with an American consortium expressing an interest in the Eastlands outfit.

    Reports from the Far East now suggest Shinawatra is pondering a £92.2 million purchase of City.
    Sgoater1
    Sgoater1


    Number of posts : 11129
    Age : 41
    Supports : Man City
    Registration date : 2006-08-06

    Ex Thai PM linked with £92m City take over Empty Re: Ex Thai PM linked with £92m City take over

    Post by Sgoater1 Mon Apr 23, 2007 1:25 pm

    Some fans arent happy cos of his controversial political past BUT buying the club would be around £70m so it is thought he'd free up at least £20m for transfers, so to be honest i just say 'show me the money'.
    Tweesus
    Tweesus


    Number of posts : 34851
    Age : 41
    Registration date : 2006-08-06

    Ex Thai PM linked with £92m City take over Empty Re: Ex Thai PM linked with £92m City take over

    Post by Tweesus Mon Apr 23, 2007 1:25 pm

    Wasn't he the guy interested in buying Liverpool but they found some of his dealings to be 'dodgy' and said they wouldn't sell to him?

    £92m also seems a lot of money, especially as Villa cost half that
    Sgoater1
    Sgoater1


    Number of posts : 11129
    Age : 41
    Supports : Man City
    Registration date : 2006-08-06

    Ex Thai PM linked with £92m City take over Empty Re: Ex Thai PM linked with £92m City take over

    Post by Sgoater1 Mon Apr 23, 2007 1:27 pm

    Tweedle wrote:Wasn't he the guy interested in buying Liverpool but they found some of his dealings to be 'dodgy' and said they wouldn't sell to him?

    £92m also seems a lot of money, especially as Villa cost half that


    Yeah it sounds a lot but the club would cost just over £70m and the other £20m would be for spending i think.
    Fey
    Fey


    Number of posts : 35349
    Supports : Feyenoord and Manchester United
    Favourite Player : ??#$ Error, John Guidetti, Jordy Clasie
    Registration date : 2006-08-07

    Ex Thai PM linked with £92m City take over Empty Re: Ex Thai PM linked with £92m City take over

    Post by Fey Mon Apr 23, 2007 1:28 pm

    Christ, that's a lot of money!! But where will it end? I mean if every rich guy bought an EPL team…the difference would still be the same. Cause the “richest” owners can be found at the top 4 anyway!
    avatar
    Diaper FC


    Number of posts : 15
    Age : 37
    Registration date : 2007-04-10

    Ex Thai PM linked with £92m City take over Empty Re: Ex Thai PM linked with £92m City take over

    Post by Diaper FC Mon Apr 23, 2007 2:26 pm

    Tweedle wrote:Wasn't he the guy interested in buying Liverpool but they found some of his dealings to be 'dodgy' and said they wouldn't sell to him?

    £92m also seems a lot of money, especially as Villa cost half that

    Nope, it wasn't dodgy. He wanted to buy only 30% share in the club then he had the idea of funding it by way of "special lottery." Though sounded good in theory, didn't get approved.
    debaser
    debaser


    Number of posts : 22064
    Age : 39
    Supports : Aston Villa and Shrewsbury Town
    Registration date : 2006-08-08

    Ex Thai PM linked with £92m City take over Empty Re: Ex Thai PM linked with £92m City take over

    Post by debaser Mon Apr 23, 2007 2:27 pm

    Tweedle wrote:Wasn't he the guy interested in buying Liverpool but they found some of his dealings to be 'dodgy' and said they wouldn't sell to him?

    £92m also seems a lot of money, especially as Villa cost half that
    i think we cost somewhere between 60 and 70m so it's not that different, particularly given man city have a new stadium - although i don't know if they have debts to go with that
    Tweesus
    Tweesus


    Number of posts : 34851
    Age : 41
    Registration date : 2006-08-06

    Ex Thai PM linked with £92m City take over Empty Re: Ex Thai PM linked with £92m City take over

    Post by Tweesus Mon Apr 23, 2007 2:40 pm

    Diaper FC wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:Wasn't he the guy interested in buying Liverpool but they found some of his dealings to be 'dodgy' and said they wouldn't sell to him?

    £92m also seems a lot of money, especially as Villa cost half that

    Nope, it wasn't dodgy. He wanted to buy only 30% share in the club then he had the idea of funding it by way of "special lottery." Though sounded good in theory, didn't get approved.

    'Special lottery' Laugh

    you don;t think that sounds at all 'dodgy'? Wink
    Sgoater1
    Sgoater1


    Number of posts : 11129
    Age : 41
    Supports : Man City
    Registration date : 2006-08-06

    Ex Thai PM linked with £92m City take over Empty Re: Ex Thai PM linked with £92m City take over

    Post by Sgoater1 Mon Apr 23, 2007 2:42 pm

    Tweedle wrote:
    Diaper FC wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:Wasn't he the guy interested in buying Liverpool but they found some of his dealings to be 'dodgy' and said they wouldn't sell to him?

    £92m also seems a lot of money, especially as Villa cost half that

    Nope, it wasn't dodgy. He wanted to buy only 30% share in the club then he had the idea of funding it by way of "special lottery." Though sounded good in theory, didn't get approved.

    'Special lottery' Laugh

    you don;t think that sounds at all 'dodgy'? Wink

    He can do whatever the f@ck he wants if it mean we have over £20m to spend this summer. .
    Tweesus
    Tweesus


    Number of posts : 34851
    Age : 41
    Registration date : 2006-08-06

    Ex Thai PM linked with £92m City take over Empty Re: Ex Thai PM linked with £92m City take over

    Post by Tweesus Mon Apr 23, 2007 2:44 pm

    Like touch children?
    Sgoater1
    Sgoater1


    Number of posts : 11129
    Age : 41
    Supports : Man City
    Registration date : 2006-08-06

    Ex Thai PM linked with £92m City take over Empty Re: Ex Thai PM linked with £92m City take over

    Post by Sgoater1 Mon Apr 23, 2007 2:52 pm

    Tweedle wrote:Like touch children?



    mmmmmmmmm £20m is a lot of money.
    Tweesus
    Tweesus


    Number of posts : 34851
    Age : 41
    Registration date : 2006-08-06

    Ex Thai PM linked with £92m City take over Empty Re: Ex Thai PM linked with £92m City take over

    Post by Tweesus Tue May 01, 2007 9:29 am

    Ex Thai PM linked with £92m City take over _42561801_man_city_203
    Ex-Thai PM steps up Man City bid










    Former Thailand prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra has emerged as the frontrunner to buy Manchester City.

    Thaksin has been granted access to the club's accounts and his advisers will carry out due diligence before reporting their findings to him.

    Thaksin, who failed to buy Liverpool three years ago, has been linked with a £100m bid for City.

    His offer is believed to be more favourable to City than that of rival bidder Ray Ranson.

    The club were not happy with some of the terms of Ranson's initial proposal before he submitted an updated version.

    But Thaksin made contact with City on Monday and the process for him to take over the Eastlands outfit has moved on quickly.

    Due diligence allows a potential buyer to examine the accounts of the organisation in question and decide whether it is a worthwhile investment for them to make.
    Tweesus
    Tweesus


    Number of posts : 34851
    Age : 41
    Registration date : 2006-08-06

    Ex Thai PM linked with £92m City take over Empty Re: Ex Thai PM linked with £92m City take over

    Post by Tweesus Tue May 01, 2007 9:32 am

    I can see why the Citeh board see it as 'more favourable'.

    At least this guy will give slow-release cash injections backed by secure assets.

    I'm very unsure on the financial implications of Ranson's offer and if I was a City fan I'd be very worried about the offer - £20m for a summer transfer fund but then what? It seems like he was hoping the £20m would sort out all their problems and then they would survive off their future income. It doedn't work like that fool.
    Sgoater1
    Sgoater1


    Number of posts : 11129
    Age : 41
    Supports : Man City
    Registration date : 2006-08-06

    Ex Thai PM linked with £92m City take over Empty Re: Ex Thai PM linked with £92m City take over

    Post by Sgoater1 Tue May 01, 2007 11:39 am

    Tweedle wrote:I can see why the Citeh board see it as 'more favourable'.

    At least this guy will give slow-release cash injections backed by secure assets.

    I'm very unsure on the financial implications of Ranson's offer and if I was a City fan I'd be very worried about the offer - £20m for a summer transfer fund but then what? It seems like he was hoping the £20m would sort out all their problems and then they would survive off their future income. It doedn't work like that fool.


    Yeah i think everyone is a little concerned over the Ronson deal but to be honest i dont think it will go through as the Shinawatra take over sounds very very good. To be honest he is worht £2billion and is a major player compared to Ronson.

    Obviously nothing is certain but the thought of Shinawatra making £50m available to spend is fucking brilliant. It would allow us to add 6 or 7 very good players to the likes of Isaksson, Dunne, Disitin, Richards, Barton, Ireland, Mpenza, Vassell etc and have a very good looking squad. First thing id like ot seeus do is get two wingers in (Id go for N'Zogbia and SWP).

    Still one issue is will Pearce be in charge? He lacks the support of the majority of the fans and with big Sam available i could see us trying to get him in.
    Tweesus
    Tweesus


    Number of posts : 34851
    Age : 41
    Registration date : 2006-08-06

    Ex Thai PM linked with £92m City take over Empty Re: Ex Thai PM linked with £92m City take over

    Post by Tweesus Tue May 01, 2007 11:41 am

    * Ranson

    Ok goaty, Champo time...

    If you had £50m to spend - what players would you buy and where would you look to stengthen?
    Sgoater1
    Sgoater1


    Number of posts : 11129
    Age : 41
    Supports : Man City
    Registration date : 2006-08-06

    Ex Thai PM linked with £92m City take over Empty Re: Ex Thai PM linked with £92m City take over

    Post by Sgoater1 Tue May 01, 2007 12:03 pm

    Tweedle wrote:* Ranson

    Ok goaty, Champo time...

    If you had £50m to spend - what players would you buy and where would you look to stengthen?

    Obviosly this is off the top of my head and its hard to know who would be available, who would want to come and the prices but id look at doing something like this....


    Start on the wings with SWP (£12m) N'Zogbia (£5m) its hard to price him cos he is a quality player but isnt playing at the moment and cant e happy which is sure to bring his price down. Then id get Sidwell in for the centre mid, great buisness on a free. I like Ball but to be honest if i thought i could get Wayne Bridge in for £7m or so then id love him at left back and ball on the bench. So thats 3 players in and only half the money spent. Then id look for strikers Djib Cisse from Liverpool £10m (might be slightly less than this) and Mido £4m. They both have something different in their lockers, they have shown their quality in the EPL BUT both still have something to prove. Id aslo look for a holding midfield player so i could change the centre mid between Barton, Sidwell, Ireland, Johnson and whoever. Maybe someone like Dacourt from Inter (although i doubt we could get him) or Diop from Fulham or see if i could loan Diarra from Chelsea,


    Cisse £10m
    Mido £4m
    SWP £12m
    Bridge £7m
    N'Zogbia £5m
    Sidwell Free
    Defensive Mid £?M
    Trabelsi Free
    Beasley £1m

    Total £39m

    So id look to spend around £40m depending on the defensive Mid. With those players alongside Isaksson, Dunne, Distin, Richards, Ireland, Barton, Mpenza, Ball, Onuoha, Johnson, Samaras and Vassell we would have a decent squad.


    What do you think ?
    Sgoater1
    Sgoater1


    Number of posts : 11129
    Age : 41
    Supports : Man City
    Registration date : 2006-08-06

    Ex Thai PM linked with £92m City take over Empty Re: Ex Thai PM linked with £92m City take over

    Post by Sgoater1 Tue May 01, 2007 12:08 pm

    Our first team would look something like...



    -------------------------------Isaksson


    Richards----------Distin-----------Dunne----------------Bridge-------



    SWP---------------Barton---------Sidwell / DM---------N'Zogbia-----



    ---------------------Cisse------------Mido-------------------------------
    Tweesus
    Tweesus


    Number of posts : 34851
    Age : 41
    Registration date : 2006-08-06

    Ex Thai PM linked with £92m City take over Empty Re: Ex Thai PM linked with £92m City take over

    Post by Tweesus Tue May 01, 2007 12:17 pm

    Looks good.

    Regarding left back, Leyton Baines may be available on the cheap if Wigan go down - sure. he's no wayne Brdige but he's a very adept player and has been Wigan's only player to perform this season. Dangerous going forward as well.

    I'm still a bit unsure on Cissé, bearing in mind that Charlton are now effectively relegated it uld be worth sniffing around Darren Bent - he's proven himself in the EPL already and works far harder for the team than Cissé does.

    Re SWP - he's just recently started playing very well for Chelsea - bad timing in a sense. Will they still be looking to sell him? If not, then maybe you could try and prise Bentley away from Blackburn.

    Central midfield: if you dont get Sidwell, Scott Brown would be available for around £4m and he's incredibly highly regarded in Scotland and I think could easily settle into the EPL
    Sgoater1
    Sgoater1


    Number of posts : 11129
    Age : 41
    Supports : Man City
    Registration date : 2006-08-06

    Ex Thai PM linked with £92m City take over Empty Re: Ex Thai PM linked with £92m City take over

    Post by Sgoater1 Tue May 01, 2007 12:44 pm

    Tweedle wrote:Looks good.

    Regarding left back, Leyton Baines may be available on the cheap if Wigan go down - sure. he's no wayne Brdige but he's a very adept player and has been Wigan's only player to perform this season. Dangerous going forward as well.

    I'm still a bit unsure on Cissé, bearing in mind that Charlton are now effectively relegated it uld be worth sniffing around Darren Bent - he's proven himself in the EPL already and works far harder for the team than Cissé does.

    Re SWP - he's just recently started playing very well for Chelsea - bad timing in a sense. Will they still be looking to sell him? If not, then maybe you could try and prise Bentley away from Blackburn.

    Central midfield: if you dont get Sidwell, Scott Brown would be available for around £4m and he's incredibly highly regarded in Scotland and I think could easily settle into the EPL

    Yeah i agree with all your points mate, i thought of Baines but i could see someone like Arsenal coming in for him, plus i think Wigan would want £7m or so and im not sure if he's that good, whereas with Bridge you know what your getting.

    i also know what you mean about Cisse, i would actually rather have Bent but i think Charlton will want silly money for him £12m or more and i wouldnt pay that for him. I have always liked Cisse and believe that without the injuries and given a proper chance in the EPL he would could be brilliant, plus i bet he is availablefor £8-10m which would be chaper than Bent.

    SWP is a difficult one now he is playing well, its hard to say but id go for him and i think for £12m Jose might just get rid of him, but its very hard to say.

    I really like Bentley and he'd be quality but i cant see Blackburn selling him on the cheap and i bet Hughes would slap a massive price tag on him.

    Sidwell depends on who else comes in and how far North he and his family would move, if not him then Brown is a great suggestion.


    With these kind of players how do you think we would do ?
    Sgoater1
    Sgoater1


    Number of posts : 11129
    Age : 41
    Supports : Man City
    Registration date : 2006-08-06

    Ex Thai PM linked with £92m City take over Empty Re: Ex Thai PM linked with £92m City take over

    Post by Sgoater1 Tue May 01, 2007 4:01 pm

    Shinawatra has released a statement confirming he has made an 'indicative proposal' to Manchester City.


    The billionaire tycoon has verified his position.

    The statement read: "Dr Thaksin Shinawatra notes certain press articles regarding the possibility of an offer being made for Manchester City.

    "Dr Thaksin confirms that he and his advisers have made an indicative proposal that may or may not lead to an offer being made for the company."
    [/img]
    Tweesus
    Tweesus


    Number of posts : 34851
    Age : 41
    Registration date : 2006-08-06

    Ex Thai PM linked with £92m City take over Empty Re: Ex Thai PM linked with £92m City take over

    Post by Tweesus Tue May 01, 2007 4:08 pm

    It sounds promising fella. Hopefully he'll put in a soild offer at some point over the next couple of months
    avatar
    Parks lives


    Number of posts : 34521
    Age : 43
    Favourite Player : The Ginger One
    Registration date : 2006-08-06

    Ex Thai PM linked with £92m City take over Empty Re: Ex Thai PM linked with £92m City take over

    Post by Parks lives Tue May 01, 2007 4:15 pm

    Ireland has more potential than Barton and Sidwell imo.
    Sgoater1
    Sgoater1


    Number of posts : 11129
    Age : 41
    Supports : Man City
    Registration date : 2006-08-06

    Ex Thai PM linked with £92m City take over Empty Re: Ex Thai PM linked with £92m City take over

    Post by Sgoater1 Tue May 01, 2007 4:33 pm

    Tweedle wrote:It sounds promising fella. Hopefully he'll put in a soild offer at some point over the next couple of months


    Yeah i hope so, its pretty exciting stuff but at the moment im tryng not to get my hopes up. If his take over goes to plan, with out fans, academy and stadium we have the opportunity forfill our potential.
    avatar
    None


    Number of posts : 2548
    Registration date : 2007-02-22

    Ex Thai PM linked with £92m City take over Empty Re: Ex Thai PM linked with £92m City take over

    Post by None Tue May 01, 2007 4:35 pm

    Parks lives wrote:Ireland has more potential than Barton and Sidwell imo.

    A 1000 leagues more IMO.

    Sidwell is distinct only in his mediocrity, an English Fabregas but not as good, Barton is just a better version of Sidwell. Ireland has technical ability in abundance.
    Sgoater1
    Sgoater1


    Number of posts : 11129
    Age : 41
    Supports : Man City
    Registration date : 2006-08-06

    Ex Thai PM linked with £92m City take over Empty Re: Ex Thai PM linked with £92m City take over

    Post by Sgoater1 Tue May 01, 2007 4:37 pm

    Parks lives wrote:Ireland has more potential than Barton and Sidwell imo.

    Yeah Ireland has a lot of potential and could become a top player. I like the kid a lot, he has great vision, good technique and a nice touch. We have done very well getting some top kids over from Ireland. All started a few years ago when we bought Cherry Orchid (a Irish club famed for top youngsters) we get them over at about 14/15 yrs old and develop them from there. We have a few really top quality young Irish lads in the Academy at the mo look out of a left winger called Donal McDermott only 17 but looks quality.
    avatar
    Parks lives


    Number of posts : 34521
    Age : 43
    Favourite Player : The Ginger One
    Registration date : 2006-08-06

    Ex Thai PM linked with £92m City take over Empty Re: Ex Thai PM linked with £92m City take over

    Post by Parks lives Tue May 01, 2007 4:38 pm

    Maybe you could play all 3 in midfield.

    I do rate Barton and Sidwell, I just think Ireland is going to be better. His football brain is alot more advanced already.
    Sgoater1
    Sgoater1


    Number of posts : 11129
    Age : 41
    Supports : Man City
    Registration date : 2006-08-06

    Ex Thai PM linked with £92m City take over Empty Re: Ex Thai PM linked with £92m City take over

    Post by Sgoater1 Tue May 01, 2007 4:45 pm

    waft the hapless youth wrote:
    Parks lives wrote:Ireland has more potential than Barton and Sidwell imo.

    A 1000 leagues more IMO.

    Sidwell is distinct only in his mediocrity, an English Fabregas but not as good, Barton is just a better version of Sidwell. Ireland has technical ability in abundance.


    TBH i think there isnt much between Sidwell and Barton and i would rather have Sidwell than Barton at the club just cos Barton pisses me off all the time. Still it would be decent to have both, plus with Johnson coming through ( he is far better than Barton was at 19) and Ireland we'd have a decent centre midfield. Plus if i hadmy way and we got N'Zog and SWP on the wings it would be awsome.
    Ricardo Jol
    Ricardo Jol


    Number of posts : 12766
    Age : 46
    Supports : FC Den Haag!
    Favourite Player : Verhoek and Verhoek and Rado and the euro!
    Registration date : 2006-08-07

    Ex Thai PM linked with £92m City take over Empty Re: Ex Thai PM linked with £92m City take over

    Post by Ricardo Jol Tue May 01, 2007 5:14 pm

    First he ripped of the Thai people and now he can spend it at City! I would be devastated if I were an City fan! My grandfather of 95 will be gutted when he hears it....
    Sgoater1
    Sgoater1


    Number of posts : 11129
    Age : 41
    Supports : Man City
    Registration date : 2006-08-06

    Ex Thai PM linked with £92m City take over Empty Re: Ex Thai PM linked with £92m City take over

    Post by Sgoater1 Tue May 01, 2007 6:10 pm

    Ricardo Jol wrote:First he ripped of the Thai people and now he can spend it at City! I would be devastated if I were an City fan! My grandfather of 95 will be gutted when he hears it....


    Why is your grandad a city fan ? Sorry but im not gutted far from it we need the cash big time, plus he seemed a popular PM from what i read on the BBC.

    Sponsored content


    Ex Thai PM linked with £92m City take over Empty Re: Ex Thai PM linked with £92m City take over

    Post by Sponsored content


      Current date/time is Fri Nov 01, 2024 12:23 pm