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    Post by EMP Mon Apr 30, 2007 6:44 pm

    They have only been in la liga for three seasons. They have a coach some on here covet. They have a very mean defence. Clearly they are a good side, but are they punching well above their weight? Is this a one off freakishly good season by their standards that will give them a chance of regular European football or does this show good judgment by those running the club? How goood is their squad, midfield and attack in comparison with other clubs.

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    Post by fcb Mon Apr 30, 2007 6:47 pm

    Tough to say, but I think they're a solid midtable team. They have some good players like Alexis, Guiza, and last year I think they had Riki.

    Schuster has definitely done a good job with them. Last year he did something similar with Levante - emphasising pre-season preparation so they got as many points as possible till March, then had a bit of a collapse but were in a safe midtable spot by then.

    It'll all depend on who the next manager they bring in is, because Schuster will almost certainly leave this summer.
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    Post by EMP Mon Apr 30, 2007 7:00 pm

    Not at all convinced by Schuster. I don't think he was all that at Levante. Last time Levante were in la liga they started well and then faded without trace. His Getafe are certainly more consistent than his Levante was, but still not good enough. They could miss out on European football next season, which given their start and cup run should not happen. Schuster has to learn how to maKe his teams last the distance and if he can't then he may not be such a big loss to Getafe. With the platform the defence gives Getafe they should be able to go on to the next level, but they look a very good spoiler side rather than a side that will go on to be as successful as they could be. That said they could win the Copa del Rey which coulds set them up to go to the next level. Who do you think will coach them next season?
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    Post by fcb Mon Apr 30, 2007 7:03 pm

    Don't get me wrong. He's done a good job with them, but I don't rate him that highly either. Basically I don't think they can improve beyond a mid-table team, especially when you consider the top 6 are pretty difficult to displace (regardless of their order), and there's other teams like Villarreal who have arguably more talent.

    No idea who will coach them next year. supermadrid (who lives in Denmark) was saying that the Danish press reports that Laudrup has already signed with a club in Spain, and that club would most probably be Getafe.
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    Post by Super Progress Mon Apr 30, 2007 7:09 pm

    i have been very impressed by getafe because they have improved every year even thought they have lost their best player each year.
    last summer they lost gavilan,riki,pernia! their team should be fightinh relegation yet their have the best defence of the league in the semies in the copa and play some very good football at times though they have a hard time getting the ball in the net which i gues understandble with their strikers. shuster has been their for 2 years now and he could have done alot worse. the thing is they are overachieving big time so of course they cant keep it up all season. they are good example that you can get survive on being smart instead of using money.
    about laudrup coming i havent heard anything new so that might suggest it was a rumour only but if they get him i can see them improving since he as has been scouting europe for cheap good players and he follows their tradition of playing good football while still having a good defence. so i hope they get him.
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    Post by NCFC Mon Apr 30, 2007 7:53 pm

    Would people say Flores who stabilised ie: kept them in the division against all odds. Or Schuster - who has taken the club forward to challenge on the outside of the European places - has done a better job?
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    Post by EMP Mon Apr 30, 2007 9:43 pm

    Well I rate Quique. That is not exactly news. Keeping tem up was a dificult task. Quique achieved it and it earned him his move to Valencia. I think Flores has done very well, but the pressure will be on im to deliver silverware next year. It is always hard to keep teams up when they first get promoted. Schuster has cvertainly built upon the foundations, but if you compare the two similar tasks that Flores and Schuster have had Flores wins hands down. Flores kept Getafe up in his first job in la liga in their first season. Schuster didn't at Levante. It could have destroyed Levante, but thankfully didn't. Schuster has built on the achievements of Flores, but I am not sure he is good enough to take Getafe to the next stage. The abilitry is there to achiev e Uefa cup qualification. Sevilla have sold on far more talent than Getafe. Juande Ramos >>>>>>Schuster. In my opinion Quique >>>>>>Schuster. At the moment Juande > Quique, but jury still out in long term. Too early to judge Quique at Valencia due to injury ravaged season. Has earned another season in my opinion. Given our problems remarkable we are still just about in touch.
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    Post by Super Progress Mon Apr 30, 2007 9:43 pm

    nCfC-CaDiZ wrote:Would people say Flores who stabilised ie: kept them in the division against all odds. Or Schuster - who has taken the club forward to challenge on the outside of the European places - has done a better job?
    i think shuster has had the harder job because other teams in the past have had a fine season when getting up which was all they had. but shuster has had to succed a succes which is hard which is why i rate him. the fact that he has lost his best players and still been better is a huge plus.
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    Post by EMP Mon Apr 30, 2007 9:53 pm

    Who did Schuster bring in at Getafe? As many have said Sevilla regularly lose their best players and still do better. The foundations were there. Schuster many have lost some players, but the question is who replaced them? It may be that the players who remained suiited Schuster's style better than Quique's and selling players allows oters more suited to the coach's plans to be brought in. The jury is definitely still out on Schuster. Let us see where he ends up next season and what he does. If Quique hadn't achieved survival for Getafe - a difficult task - Schuster doesn't even get the opportunity at Getafe.
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    Post by DeLux Mon Apr 30, 2007 9:56 pm

    Schuster's signings: Redondo, Alexis, Gavilan, Guiza, Casquero.

    I think Flores feat was much more impressive. Looking at the players he had in the 'Guia de la Liga' from that year the players were distinctly average.
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    Post by Super Progress Tue May 01, 2007 12:16 am

    we also have to remember that some of the players might not have gotten sold if it werent for getafe playing well. anyway like i said you can always find teams that do well when they get into a league like wigan who are now fighting relegation.one should look at how the players shuster has had were regarded as before they improved and got sold.anyway it is another world coaching small teams compared to Real for example where he will have bigger demands and cant go for unknown players.
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    Post by EMP Tue May 01, 2007 1:22 am

    supermadrid(zizou legend) wrote:we also have to remember that some of the players might not have gotten sold if it werent for getafe playing well. anyway like i said you can always find teams that do well when they get into a league like wigan who are now fighting relegation.one should look at how the players shuster has had were regarded as before they improved and got sold.anyway it is another world coaching small teams compared to Real for example where he will have bigger demands and cant go for unknown players.

    But that applies to Quique as well. Some of the best players were sold after Quique left. He got them playing well so Getafe stayed up and they were sold. Why doesn't he get credit for that rather than Schuster getting sympathy for losing players? That too applies to Quique. And finally Quique has moved to a bigger club and achieved a minor miracle there. Even qualifying for Uefa Cup would be a good job considering te extent of injuries to key players. Quique has earned the chance to move Valencia to the next stage. I think he has proved himself to be a good coach. Schuster still has much work to do to convince. He may become a very good coach. I don't think he has proved it yet.
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