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    Barton wants £300k City pay-off !

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    Post by Sgoater1 Sat Jun 09, 2007 12:47 pm

    Grr the greedy bastard wants to be paid a £300k 'loyalty' as he is being sold without handing in a transfer request . would be due the money from the Blues if he was sold on without putting in a transfer request.

    Barton has not put in a transfer request - but City insist they will only allow him to complete his move to St James' Park if he does.

    After all we've done for the c**t why cant he just f@ck off, i cant wait for him to come back to COM next year i hope he gets the $h!t kicked out of him.
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    Post by Luis Sat Jun 09, 2007 12:47 pm

    What a tosser
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    Post by Cesc Soler Sat Jun 09, 2007 12:56 pm

    Very greedy.

    I can't see why he can't just let this go, I know it is a sustantial amount of money but Man City have made him as a footballer. Not only that the club gave him chance after chance of making sure his career getting back on track after a string of unsaviouy incidents that were all Bartons fault in the end.

    I hope Man City take the moral high ground on this and make him hand a request in.
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    Post by TM Sat Jun 09, 2007 12:57 pm

    Complete and utter wanker.
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    Post by Lard Sat Jun 09, 2007 1:38 pm

    Who wouldn't do the same ffs. that's 300k you aint going to turn it down
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    Post by Deano Sat Jun 09, 2007 1:50 pm

    The reason he wants a payoff is because Barton has agent fees to pay when he joins Newcastle. Barton will not pay them at the moment because he wasn't informed he had to pay them while negotiating. He has now gone on holiday and will be a City player for at least two weeks.

    So this concrete move to Newcastle isn't as concrete as it seems. Although it seems very likely it will happen, still a lot to sort...
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    Post by shazlx Sat Jun 09, 2007 8:22 pm

    They should wait till the last hour of the transfer window to allow the transfer to complete. This way Barton will 'earn' the least amount possible from his improved contract at Newcastle. Either that or Newcastle will agree to pay the money instead or he may give up. If neither occur, then don't sell him and let him rot on the bench. I think its worth using some of the new investment money on punishing this player. If only for it to serve as a behavioral deterrent for other up and coming players coming through the City system (or anyone elses system).
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    Post by Kimbo Sat Jun 09, 2007 8:30 pm

    Hold on, why is everyone treating Man City like a victim? They put this in his contract, they owe him the money. Even if he doesn't need it it's the principle, if someone owes you a large sum of money you don't jusr forget it. scratch
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    Post by Luis Sat Jun 09, 2007 8:39 pm

    You forget it when you assalt a team mate in training
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    Post by Mexicanbecks Sat Jun 09, 2007 8:40 pm

    Luis wrote:You forget it when you assalt a team mate in training

    clearly not
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    Post by shazlx Sat Jun 09, 2007 8:42 pm

    Kimbo wrote:Hold on, why is everyone treating Man City like a victim? They put this in his contract, they owe him the money. Even if he doesn't need it it's the principle, if someone owes you a large sum of money you don't jusr forget it. scratch
    Having not read through it throughrily i apologise for my mistakes but the way I saw it was:

    If ManCitty sell then they have to pay the £300,000 to Barton.
    If Barton wants the tranfer and puts in the request then there is no money to be paid.

    So technically they don't owe him yet until the sell. Therefore they can hold on until Barton agrees to put in the transfer request or Newcastle agree to pay the money instead. Or they can not sell him all together and ruin his career for a few seasons (or play him if his attitude improves to an acceptable level).
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    Post by Sgoater1 Sun Jun 10, 2007 1:41 pm

    Kimbo wrote:Hold on, why is everyone treating Man City like a victim? They put this in his contract, they owe him the money. Even if he doesn't need it it's the principle, if someone owes you a large sum of money you don't jusr forget it. scratch

    Its not the principle mate, its the fact he has done so many things wrong again and again and we kept giving him chances. He stubbed out a cigar in team mates face, assaulted a 15yr old kid, assaulted Dabo, assaulted taxi driver, showed his bum on the pitch, and immediatly handed in a transfer request when not offered the high salary he demanded. 7 incidents in 18 months and this is how he repays us, he will be getting a signing on fee and a huge salary if he was really loyal to us he would leave with his mouth shut and the best wishes of the fans. I hope we get the take over then we can afford to put him in the reserves.
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    Post by Bashmachkin Sun Jun 10, 2007 2:11 pm

    In demanding this payoff, Barton is only disgracing himself further. Hes already pretty much beyond repair from a footballing perspective, hes used up more chances than he has ever deserved, and this thing is also indefensible in all ways. From a Man City perspective, hes showing that actually, he doesnt care for the club and its well being at all, that he has no loyalty but tremendous greed, and that he lacks any gratitude for the start Man City gave him, for the numerous chances they offered. From a Newcastle perspective, his greed is leaving our club in a state of unease, not knowing for sure whether we will get him or whether we need to look elsewhere - and consequently it hampers our rebuilding. Then he could, at the moment, have completed his transfer, be looking for a place in Newcastle, settling in to his new surroundings and preparing for pre-season, but instead hes sitting waiting for money that he doesnt need.

    From my perspective, it also seems obvious that he actually feels like he deserves this money, that he is in the right and that Man City have mistreat him, and so hes going to punish them a bit by holding out for a payoff.

    Newcastle should just cancel the deal now, Man City can let him rot in the reserves, and we can consider doing the same to our own greedy, selfish, conceited little fellow in Michael Owen.
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    Post by Brian2468 Sun Jun 10, 2007 4:34 pm

    I wonder in his new contract will Newcastle have all kinds of clauses regarding his conduct making it easier to deal with him. In truth this guy cannot be wanted by many clubs and it must make it harder for his agent to get a great contract for Barton.
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    Post by Deano Sun Jun 10, 2007 8:53 pm

    Someone on a Newcastle radio station said this deal is on the verge of falling through unless this money situation with the club and his agent is sorted.
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    Post by Football Genius Sun Jun 10, 2007 8:56 pm

    Would you want him at the Hammers Deano?

    I personally feel with an experienced boss and possibly a team which will do much better next season (i think you guys should be targeting Europe) he'll thrive.
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    Post by Deano Sun Jun 10, 2007 8:58 pm

    Yeah I'd take him...I think this will be sorted out though, and he'll sign for Newcastle.

    But if it does fall through, I think we'd be straight in for him.
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    Post by Mexicanbecks Sun Jun 10, 2007 9:02 pm

    Lucas Deano Neill wrote:Yeah I'd take him...I think this will be sorted out though, and he'll sign for Newcastle.

    But if it does fall through, I think we'd be straight in for him.

    if you guys get him i hope for west ham's sake you guys dont take his Cr@p
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    Post by Football Genius Sun Jun 10, 2007 9:17 pm

    Mexicanbecks wrote:
    Lucas Deano Neill wrote:Yeah I'd take him...I think this will be sorted out though, and he'll sign for Newcastle.

    But if it does fall through, I think we'd be straight in for him.

    if you guys get him i hope for west ham's sake you guys dont take his Cr@p

    I think thats something Curbishley won't tollerate, and as an experienced manager would expect him to know how to manage potentially 'difficult' individuals.
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    Post by Bashmachkin Sun Jun 10, 2007 9:39 pm

    This is Alan Curbishley who, in six seasons with Charlton, never broke into the top six and only twice finished in the top half of the league, who couldnt manage Danny Murphy at Charlton because he was too big of a player for them, and who Tevez complained about earlier in the season, remarking that he had been completely uncommunicative since joining the club.
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    Post by Deano Sun Jun 10, 2007 9:44 pm

    Bashmachkin wrote:This is Alan Curbishley who, in six seasons with Charlton, never broke into the top six and only twice finished in the top half of the league, who couldnt manage Danny Murphy at Charlton because he was too big of a player for them, and who Tevez complained about earlier in the season, remarking that he had been completely uncommunicative since joining the club.

    Doh

    What happened to Charlton the one season he wasn't in charge??
    What happened to a team that were bottom 20 points with 10 games to go??
    As for Tevez, he praised Curbishley, it was Pardew his problems were with. No need to slag off Curbishley when you obviously know nothing about him ok
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    Post by Bashmachkin Sun Jun 10, 2007 9:55 pm

    Lucas Deano Neill wrote:
    Bashmachkin wrote:This is Alan Curbishley who, in six seasons with Charlton, never broke into the top six and only twice finished in the top half of the league, who couldnt manage Danny Murphy at Charlton because he was too big of a player for them, and who Tevez complained about earlier in the season, remarking that he had been completely uncommunicative since joining the club.

    Doh

    What happened to Charlton the one season he wasn't in charge??
    What happened to a team that were bottom 20 points with 10 games to go??
    As for Tevez, he praised Curbishley, it was Pardew his problems were with. No need to slag off Curbishley when you obviously know nothing about him ok

    You can view Charltons demise in one of two ways. On the one hand, the fact they were so poor without Curbishley shows how well he did with what he had there, how much the club was built around him and that the combination of him and Charlton worked. On the other, he left Charlton with a very weak squad, containing little talent, and thats not a great legacy. Either way, I think hes yet to prove himself as anything like a top class manager, and hes also yet to prove an ability to work with big players.

    With West Ham, he still lost more games than he won with a side that had finished in the top half the season before, and who had supposedly improved their squad in the summer with two top class players. Tevez certainly saved West Ham more than Curbishley did, and Tevez did suggest that Curbishleys manner was 'cold', that he was uncommunicative. Its here:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/w/west_ham_utd/6345417.stm

    Heres an article from a couple of weeks ago, suggesting Tevez even wants to leave because of Curbishley.

    http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,,2089303,00.html

    Ive heard Curbishley praise Tevez, but not much the other way around, and I think West Ham were fortunate to have such a player that gives his all no matter the circumstances, who genuinely seems just to want to play football.

    These are the things I know.
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    Post by Tweesus Sun Jun 10, 2007 10:19 pm

    Re Curbs at Charlton.

    Charlton are a pretty small club - he was never given the budget for transfers or wages to really achieve much with them. What he did achieve however, I think was pretty remarkable - wth the budget and the fans that Charlton had, they really should have been on the championship and its not as though they had a particulary good youth set up there either - not really Curb's fault.

    It was only really in one season that he got a decentish transfer budget and in that season he bought Bent and Murphy and got Smertin on loan.

    Before January (when Murphy and smertin left) Charlton were flying and playing some great football.

    It wasn't that Curbs couldn't cope wit Murphy - it was that Murphy had a great start to the season and thought he was too good for charlton and handed in a transfer request - he was an idiot.

    Curbs at Charlton did a great job with what he had. He had a dodgy start at West Ham but once he was settled they went of a fantastic run and towards the end of the season they were playing some brilliant football Ale
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    Post by DD Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:44 am

    Premiership - Big Sam fury over Barton hitch
    Eurosport - Tue, 12 Jun 10:29:00 2007

    Premiership - Sam Allardyce has branded Manchester City "out of order" over a hitch that threatens to derail Newcastle's move for midfielder Joey Barton.

    A clause in the Barton's contract entitles him to a £300,000 'compensation' pay-off if he is sold without asking for a transfer.

    While the bad-boy midfielder did not hand in an official transfer request, the City board are withholding payment because they say Barton was eager to speak to both Newcastle and West Ham, and the move is not against his will.

    While Barton's agent Willie McKay has referred the matter to the Professional Footballers' Association, the impasse could scupper Newcastle's £5.5 million purchase, prompting a furious Allardyce to criticise City.

    "They are out of order. This is a private matter, a confidential issue that should not have been made public. I'm flabbergasted and want the situation resolved," he said.

    "I am just trying as Newcastle manager to secure a player of this kind and quality and the deal has been held up.

    "I cannot understand it because City didn't pay anything for this player as he came through the youth system and are selling him for over £5million.

    "It's not really for me to comment. All I know is that this is a matter for Joey to sort out and I hope it is resolved as it has stopped him putting pen to paper."

    http://eurosport.yahoo.com/12062007/58/premiership-big-sam-fury-barton-hitch.html
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    Post by Sgoater1 Tue Jun 12, 2007 11:48 am

    DD wrote:Premiership - Big Sam fury over Barton hitch
    Eurosport - Tue, 12 Jun 10:29:00 2007

    Premiership - Sam Allardyce has branded Manchester City "out of order" over a hitch that threatens to derail Newcastle's move for midfielder Joey Barton.

    "They are out of order. This is a private matter, a confidential issue that should not have been made public. I'm flabbergasted and want the situation resolved," he said.

    "I am just trying as Newcastle manager to secure a player of this kind and quality and the deal has been held up.

    "I cannot understand it because City didn't pay anything for this player as he came through the youth system and are selling him for over £5million.

    "It's not really for me to comment. All I know is that this is a matter for Joey to sort out and I hope it is resolved as it has stopped him putting pen to paper."

    http://eurosport.yahoo.com/12062007/58/premiership-big-sam-fury-barton-hitch.html

    So why the f@ck dont you shut up you fat f@ck !
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    Post by Sgoater1 Tue Jun 12, 2007 11:49 am

    Also Barton got done for driving without insurance the other day, what a wanker.
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    Post by DD Tue Jun 12, 2007 11:51 am

    The sooner he's off, the better for Citeh
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    Post by Brian2468 Tue Jun 12, 2007 2:35 pm

    Everyone knows Barton can be a arsehole. Now it is clear Man City is acting like an arse. Show some class and pay up and get rid of him. That simple...Erm
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    Post by Sgoater1 Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:11 pm

    Brian2468 wrote:Everyone knows Barton can be a arsehole. Now it is clear Man City is acting like an arse. Show some class and pay up and get rid of him. That simple...Erm

    f@ck off we are just standing our ground. He forced us into selling him, in a perfect world he wouldnt have done all those stupid things and could stay a city player. To say we need to show some class is stupid, if clubs didnt stand their ground then players would be taking the piss with demands every week.
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    Post by lrdsucksgoats Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:19 pm

    Sgoater1 wrote:
    Brian2468 wrote:Everyone knows Barton can be a arsehole. Now it is clear Man City is acting like an arse. Show some class and pay up and get rid of him. That simple...Erm

    f@ck off we are just standing our ground. He forced us into selling him, in a perfect world he wouldnt have done all those stupid things and could stay a city player. To say we need to show some class is stupid, if clubs didnt stand their ground then players would be taking the piss with demands every week.


    Dead right - Barton's done everything but ask for a transfer. Saying that he wouldn't pay to watch the team (not to mention all the other Cr@p) means he has no right to be asking for loyalty payments now he's agreed to go to Newcastle.

    His agent must be a real dick - any idea who he is?

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