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    Post by La Saeta Rubia Tue Aug 22, 2006 3:54 pm

    I think Tevez will move to Milan ahead of Utd.
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    Post by wastastic Tue Aug 22, 2006 11:43 pm

    dont chelsea need another striker? Doesnt Abramovic have -reportedly- close ties with the company that owns Corintihans? Didnt Mourinio get spotted watching Corintihans last season? hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
    doesnt seem likely to me
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    Post by S4P Tue Aug 22, 2006 11:45 pm

    Now we have Sheva, there's no need for Tevez imo.

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    Post by wastastic Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:09 am

    hi s4p,
    im not so sure: what happens if Droggers or Sheva gets injured? And if Chelsea r going to win the league and CL this season they will have to play and win an awful lot of games and i think another striker would be useful. Tevez is quick, strong and very good; he might not 'cut it' in the prem but if any team can afford to gamble on a south american it is Chelsea. Id hate it if a lack of players cost chelsea the CL this year and with their resorcues that would be down-right idiotic...
    well i think so.
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    Post by S4P Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:13 am

    @ wastastic

    If one of Drogs or Sheva gets injured, JM will just switch back to 4-3-3 with 2 wingers and a main striker.

    I'm not really willing to take a gamble on Tevez now we have Sheva. We can also recall Crespo at the end of this season, should one of our strikers want to leave.

    Right now we have 5 or 6 players out injured, and we're doing fine, so I'm not worried about a lack of squad depth ok Ale
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    Post by poiuy1 Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:14 am

    could yuo imagine the ego's though Lampard Ballack Tevez Robben Sheva Drogba all competing for places Shocked
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    Post by wastastic Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:16 am

    hehehe yeah perhaps, i just dont want to see Huth play up front ever again!!!
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    Post by S4P Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:18 am

    poiuy1 wrote:could yuo imagine the ego's though Lampard Ballack Tevez Robben Sheva Drogba all competing for places Shocked

    If anything, it'll knock their egos down (not like many of them really have egos that haven't been substantially exaggerated by all those who believe the tabloid newspapers)

    All those guys will realise that if they're not playing well, they're out the team (unlike every other club where certain players e.g. Rooney, Ronaldo at Man Utd, will know that no matter how poorly they're playing, they'll be guaranteed a place in the 1st team).
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    Post by S4P Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:19 am

    wastastic wrote:hehehe yeah perhaps, i just dont want to see Huth play up front ever again!!!

    Huth is now 5th choice CB (he might get promoted to 4th should Willie Gallas leave), so I don't think we'll be seeing much of the Huthmeister (thank f*ck! Ale)

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    Post by poiuy1 Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:22 am

    S4P wrote:
    poiuy1 wrote:could yuo imagine the ego's though Lampard Ballack Tevez Robben Sheva Drogba all competing for places Shocked

    If anything, it'll knock their egos down (not like many of them really have egos that haven't been substantially exaggerated by all those who believe the tabloid newspapers)

    All those guys will realise that if they're not playing well, they're out the team (unlike every other club where certain players e.g. Rooney, Ronaldo at Man Utd, will know that no matter how poorly they're playing, they'll be guaranteed a place in the 1st team).

    What a load of rubbish maybe other clubs likeUnited can't afford to spend 320 million on players in 3 years to win the title and have world class players with big ego's to compete for places Rolling Eyes

    Ronaldo was actually dropped around Novemeber time if you remember.

    Also it's not the papers that make me think people like Lampard have Titanic ego's it's the way he acts and tell me Ballack doesn't haev a massive ego and Sheva come off it
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    Post by Football Genius Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:22 am

    is any1 simply forgetting, that where would he play ? in a man man strike force he plays far too deep infield, in a two man partnership, would he not get in the way of Lampard or Ballack ?

    Highly unlikely transfer to Cheslea in my opinion.
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    Post by L r d Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:25 am

    i think jose was looking at maschareno not tevez.
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    Post by wastastic Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:26 am

    Im a Chelsea fan. Hense why i dont want to see Huth up front! lol. Im sure all Liverpool fans would love to see him play up front week in, week out!

    ID be v happy if Chelsea bought Tevez but a stop-gap like Vieri (1 season) to warm the bench, but who could be useful if needed would be ok also.
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    Post by S4P Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:29 am

    poiuy1 wrote:
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    poiuy1 wrote:could yuo imagine the ego's though Lampard Ballack Tevez Robben Sheva Drogba all competing for places Shocked

    If anything, it'll knock their egos down (not like many of them really have egos that haven't been substantially exaggerated by all those who believe the tabloid newspapers)

    All those guys will realise that if they're not playing well, they're out the team (unlike every other club where certain players e.g. Rooney, Ronaldo at Man Utd, will know that no matter how poorly they're playing, they'll be guaranteed a place in the 1st team).

    What a load of rubbish maybe other clubs likeUnited can't afford to spend 320 million on players in 3 years to win the title and have world class players with big ego's to compete for places Rolling Eyes

    Ronaldo was actually dropped around Novemeber time if you remember.

    Also it's not the papers that make me think people like Lampard have Titanic ego's it's the way he acts and tell me Ballack doesn't haev a massive ego and Sheva come off it

    You've missed the point. I said that the reason why those players won't have bigger egos from the new squad is because they can never feel as though their place is guaranteed in the squad, whereas at United, certain players are all but guaranteed places because of the fact there is a bigger difference in class between the 1st and 2nd team at your club.

    And come off it, maybe Lampard does have a fairly big ego, but Ballack and Sheva? Sheva admitted he wasn't good enough for his uni team and says the only reason he made it as a footballer is because of the (director?) at Kiev. Indeed, when Sheva won the CL with Milan, he laid his CL medal next to that man's grave (he had of course, recently passed away at this stage).

    Ballack doesn't come across as a man with a big ego (certainly no worse than Rooney, Ronaldo and co)
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    Post by poiuy1 Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:33 am

    S4P wrote:
    poiuy1 wrote:
    S4P wrote:
    poiuy1 wrote:could yuo imagine the ego's though Lampard Ballack Tevez Robben Sheva Drogba all competing for places Shocked

    If anything, it'll knock their egos down (not like many of them really have egos that haven't been substantially exaggerated by all those who believe the tabloid newspapers)

    All those guys will realise that if they're not playing well, they're out the team (unlike every other club where certain players e.g. Rooney, Ronaldo at Man Utd, will know that no matter how poorly they're playing, they'll be guaranteed a place in the 1st team).

    What a load of rubbish maybe other clubs likeUnited can't afford to spend 320 million on players in 3 years to win the title and have world class players with big ego's to compete for places Rolling Eyes

    Ronaldo was actually dropped around Novemeber time if you remember.

    Also it's not the papers that make me think people like Lampard have Titanic ego's it's the way he acts and tell me Ballack doesn't haev a massive ego and Sheva come off it

    You've missed the point. I said that the reason why those players won't have bigger egos from the new squad is because they can never feel as though their place is guaranteed in the squad, whereas at United, certain players are all but guaranteed places because of the fact there is a bigger difference in class between the 1st and 2nd team at your club.

    And come off it, maybe Lampard does have a fairly big ego, but Ballack and Sheva? Sheva admitted he wasn't good enough for his uni team and says the only reason he made it as a footballer is because of the (director?) at Kiev. Indeed, when Sheva won the CL with Milan, he laid his CL medal next to that man's grave (he had of course, recently passed away at this stage).

    Ballack doesn't come across as a man with a big ego (certainly no worse than Rooney, Ronaldo and co)

    Ha ha Ballack thinks he's Mr Germany seriously ask any German poster what they think of Ballack he's mr big balls i cannot think of a player with a bigger ego.

    What's this about Sheva he didn't think he was good enough for his Uni team 10 years ago that proves he has no ego come off it. He has one the champians league an numerous scudetto's at a far bigger club then Chelsea do you think he's going to be happy at Chelsea sitting on the bench?
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    Post by S4P Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:39 am

    D'you understand what ego means? Why on earth are you suggesting that his ego will be affected by surrounded by Chelsea players (we have a better squad than Milan, let's not forget that) and the fact Sheva will be fighting for his place will only shorten whatever "ego" he has.

    I'm sure that the more world class players there are at a side, and the less likely you are to get a place, the more likely your ego will be lower. If he knew from the start that he'd be the number 1 no matter how poorly he was playing (bit like Rooney), his 'ego' would be sky-high as he'd think he were the outright number 1 and could therefore say and do what he likes (I'm using Rooney as an example because of his whole "I'm not going to play for England to f*ck the FA off" stuff)

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    Post by poiuy1 Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:41 am

    S4P wrote:D'you understand what ego means? Why on earth are you suggesting that his ego will be affected by surrounded by Chelsea players (we have a better squad than Milan, let's not forget that) and the fact Sheva will be fighting for his place will only shorten whatever "ego" he has.

    I'm sure that the more world class players there are at a side, and the less likely you are to get a place, the more likely your ego will be lower. If he knew from the start that he'd be the number 1 no matter how poorly he was playing (bit like Rooney), his 'ego' would be sky-high as he'd think he were the outright number 1 and could therefore say and do what he likes (I'm using Rooney as an example because of his whole "I'm not going to play for England to f*ck the FA off" stuff)

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    Post by Luso Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:42 am

    Uni team?

    Sheva signed for Milan from Dinamo Kiev, when did he play Uni ball?
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    Post by S4P Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:47 am

    Whilst in his early days at Dinamo Kiev I believe.

    He's hardly a self-centred person imo.
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    Post by poiuy1 Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:50 am

    just like you have never seen Ballack as a player with a big ego seriusoly the one thing you thinkn of when you look at Ballack is that the guy walks round like he's got fucking grapefruits for balls metophorically of course Wink
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    Post by S4P Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:51 am

    poiuy1 wrote:just like you have never seen Ballack as a player with a big ego seriusoly the one thing you thinkn of when you look at Ballack is that the guy walks round like he's got fucking grapefruits for balls metophorically of course Wink

    I'm not really too sure how you can judge a player's ego so 'perfectly' whilst they're playing (bearing in mind that you don't know what they're saying on the field, or what they're thinking - obviously)

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    Post by poiuy1 Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:54 am

    S4P wrote:
    poiuy1 wrote:just like you have never seen Ballack as a player with a big ego seriusoly the one thing you thinkn of when you look at Ballack is that the guy walks round like he's got fucking grapefruits for balls metophorically of course Wink

    I'm not really too sure how you can judge a player's ego so 'perfectly' whilst they're playing (bearing in mind that you don't know what they're saying on the field, or what they're thinking - obviously)

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    Christ, are you sure you have never seen Ballack play?
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    Post by S4P Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:57 am

    poiuy1 wrote:
    S4P wrote:
    poiuy1 wrote:just like you have never seen Ballack as a player with a big ego seriusoly the one thing you thinkn of when you look at Ballack is that the guy walks round like he's got fucking grapefruits for balls metophorically of course Wink

    I'm not really too sure how you can judge a player's ego so 'perfectly' whilst they're playing (bearing in mind that you don't know what they're saying on the field, or what they're thinking - obviously)

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    Christ, are you sure you have never seen Ballack play?

    hehe Laughing Indeed once or twice. Rolling Eyes

    What I'm saying is, how can you believe so positively, that the guy is really that far up his own arse, just by watching him on a football pitch? (bearing in mind, you've never seen him live, and have probably own heard his interviews in tabloid newspapers).
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    Post by The Easter Bunny Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:59 am

    my balls are like grapefruit Cool
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    Post by poiuy1 Wed Aug 23, 2006 1:01 am

    right whenever you are next on ask a few German posters what they think of Bakllack he is one of the most pig headed arrogent footballers there is part of the reason why he is such a great player just like Lampard only subsititute the great with 'great a shooting' Wink
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    Post by S4P Wed Aug 23, 2006 1:05 am

    poiuy1 wrote:right whenever you are next on ask a few German posters what they think of Bakllack he is one of the most pig headed arrogent footballers there is part of the reason why he is such a great player just like Lampard only subsititute the great with 'great a shooting' Wink

    Laughing

    Yet I'm sure you'd love both these 'pig headed arrogant footballers' at your club wouldn't you? (a player who will guarantee you 15-20 prem goals this season, and another who is the best AM in the world)

    It's down to people's opinions at the end of the day (could you really see Otto slamming ballack, when he's praised him so much).

    Anyhow, even if you believe (and have your reasons why you believe) these 2 are arrogant, how on earth anyone thinks Sheva is arrogant is beyond me? scratch (If so, then surely almost all the top players in the world are, but hey, we'll leave it at that Ale)
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    Post by poiuy1 Wed Aug 23, 2006 1:12 am

    of course you need a level of arrogence to be the best player in the world you need it even to make it as a footballer as they say it's 40% skill 60% in the head i.e confidence arrogence

    this is nothing about how good the players are they are world class i'm not denying it,

    However it remains to be seen whetehr they can work as a unit and whether they were actual Mourinho signings, oh go on tell me Mourinho does not have a big Ego are you really 26?
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    Post by S4P Wed Aug 23, 2006 1:17 am

    poiuy1 wrote:of course you need a level of arrogence to be the best player in the world you need it even to make it as a footballer as they say it's 40% skill 60% in the head i.e confidence arrogence

    this is nothing about how good the players are they are world class i'm not denying it,

    However it remains to be seen whetehr they can work as a unit and whether they were actual Mourinho signings, oh go on tell me Mourinho does not have a big Ego are you really 26?

    I am indeed, and indeed Mourinho has a very big ego. If I believe they do (like Lampard) why would I lie? I just don't see how you can say a player is more big headed if they think they're more likely to be on the bench (like you said earlier about Sheva). I also don't see how you can tell how big headed/self centred/whatever you wanna call it, a player is by the way they play their football (which is what you basically said about Ballack, but hey, it's your opinion so it's cool)

    Sheva was one Abramovich wanted. Ballack was definitely a Mourinho signing though.
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    Post by christmasborocooper Wed Aug 23, 2006 1:21 am

    Why question his age poiuy?
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    Post by The Easter Bunny Wed Aug 23, 2006 1:23 am

    ok calm down people
    this tevez thread has turned into a chelsea/ballacks ego thread

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