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    Post by Batman Wed Jan 02, 2008 12:05 pm

    Winners

    Arsenal, ManYoo And Chelski
    Three instantly forgettable victories.


    Eduardo Silva
    Given the choice after his side's comfortable victory over West Ham, Arsene Wenger said that he was happier being hunted rather than hunting. The Gunners boss will be happier still with the addition of a poacher to his armoury.

    After an utterly anonymous 45 minutes at Goodison Park, Eduardo changed the match with his first two significant glimpses of the ball. A relatively awful footballer, the Croatian is a lethal finisher. He also has an interesting knack of only being able to control the ball with one touch when in the immediate vicinity of the penalty box.

    In terms of short backlift and rapid left foot, Eduardo is reminiscent of Robbie Fowler. He may also prove to be the joker in the pack during the second half of the season; seven years after the search was commenced, Wenger has finally found his fox in the box.


    Michael Ballack
    The star of the show at Craven Cottage, dominating the midfield and driving Chelski forward with a captain's performance in the absence of Frank Lampard and John Terry. The question of whether Ballack can deliver such a powerful performance in the company of Lampard - rather than the wretched Steve Sidwell - can only be answered when the Englishman returns from injury, but in the short term Avram Grant will just be grateful for the German's best display in a Chelski shirt.

    Ballack confirmed that Grant, enraged at Chelski's inept first-half showing, had been "a bit loud" in the dressing-room at half-time so the Israeli can take credit for the revival. No chants of 'You don't know what you're doing' from the Chelski end at the news of Sidwell's substitution in favour of Obi Mikel either.

    The Israeli is still working with somebody else's tools but it's worth recalling that it was this time last year that Jose Mourinho waved the white flag at Anfield, practically admitting his side were defeated before they set foot on the pitch when deprived of Petr Cech and John Terry. Grant is currently operating without Cech, Terry, Lampard, Andriy Shevchenko and Didier Drogba.

    Ballack's revival is thus especially useful but he will be required to provide plenty of similar match-winning turns before Michael Essien, Salomon Kalou, Mikel and Drogba return from Africa. And Grant, unlike Mourinho last January, will no doubt be provided with new tools to play with by the man who has always believed he knows exactly what he is doing.


    Aston Villa
    Unbeaten in five matches after three successive defeats at the beginning of December and fully appreciative of the value of set-pieces: Four of their goals in the past three matches have been converted directly from either a corner or a free-kick.


    Tim Howard
    If goals win matches then saves turn them. Howard's smart stop from Gary O'Neil's shot occurred just five minutes before Andy Johnson put the visitors ahead at the Riverside and must have brought rare relief to the American, who failed to stop any of the four shots on target that Arsenal produced on Saturday.


    Everton
    Deprived of Tim Cahill, David Moyes deployed his team in a 4-4-2 formation at Boro. The Scot is reluctant to do so whenever the Aussie is available, apparently regarding him as a second striker rather than a midfielder. The limitations of that ploy were evident against Arsenal when the Toffees fell behind and Yakubu remained a lone threat that Gallas and co were able to snuff out with little bother. Even when introduced as a substitute, Johnson was directed to the right wing - the position in which, to general scorn, he was deployed for his full England debut last November.

    Any criticism of Moyes' conservatism must be tempered by the acknowledgement that Everton have a claim to be the team of 2007. Nonetheless, if the Toffees are to climb the final mile, always the hardest bit, then the Scot must be flexible with his gameplan and, when events dictate, gamble on Cahill - who, incidentally, has scored against Arsenal, ManYoo and Chelski in the last six weeks - as a midfielder.


    Losers

    Dimitar Berbatov
    And after a career littered with near-misses and close calls (euphemisms for losing) the Bulgarian so desperately wants to be a winner.

    His transfer request (which is effectively what he handed in via his agent Emil Dantchev on New Year's Eve) from Tottenham must be seen in the context of a career blighted by defeat. Berbatov was a substitute for Bayer Leverkusen in the 2002 Champions League final, the year in which Leverkusen were also runners-up in the Bundesliga and German Cup. His only winners' medal is from the 1999 Bulgarian Cup Final and it will not have gone unnoticed that since leaving CSKA Sofia in 2001 his former employers have won the domestic title twice.


    Tottenham Hotspur
    No team in the Premiership has scored more goals. No team in the top 12 has conceded more.

    And no team in the country should attempt to defend a last-minute corner with a 5ft 11in rookie marking the 6ft 2in Martin Laursen.


    Portsmouth
    With 22 points from 11 matches, Pompey are top of the Away League Table.


    Liverpool
    As the headline of the back page of The Daily Telegraph states, 'Benitez must stay in touch to keep job'. 2008 began ignominiously with the three routine victories of Arsenal, Manchester United and Chelski stretching the already yawning gap between Liverpool and the promised land.

    True to form, the club's fans have already rewritten their expectations, suggesting that if Liverpool finish the season within ten points of the champions then it would represent progress. Mathematically, the argument is valid; emotionally, it is delusional. This, lest we forget, was supposed to be Liverpool's year.

    The rational expectation must also be that the gap will widen rather than diminish over the next five months. Arsenal and ManYoo, for instance, have already visited the vast majority of the fixture list's tough encounters. True, both clubs still have to travel to Stamford Bridge, but Liverpool also still have to visit west London, not to mention Old Trafford, the Emirates, White Hart Lane and Upton Park.

    Keeping in touch will be no small achievement.


    West Ham
    A rare setback for the Top Two specialists. Aside from beating Manchester United three times in 13 months, the Hammers remain the only side to beat Arsenal at the Emirates after completing the double over the Gunners last April.


    Fulham
    It cannot be simple coincidence that Fulham repeatedly hit a brick wall in the second half of matches. Roy Hodgson has two weeks before the Cottagers' next league matches to decamp to the training ground and discover just how fit his new charges really are.

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    Post by Isco Benny Wed Jan 02, 2008 12:12 pm

    Watched the Chelsea game, and Ballack really wasn't THAT good. No one was
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    Post by Sheffield gunner Wed Jan 02, 2008 12:19 pm

    SSN just had a stat about Spurs saying they've conceded 19 goals from set pieces this season, and then the next highest total (I think Sunderland) was 11!
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    Post by SuperMario Wed Jan 02, 2008 12:45 pm

    Watch out for Kalou in 2008, he's getting more and more settled. How many assists does he already have (pity the likes of SWP waste a lot of sitters, otherwise he would have been in double figures).
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    Post by Deano Wed Jan 02, 2008 12:58 pm

    Tottenham can't defend for $h!t. Kaboul was brought in to help strengthen their defence...oops!

    I think Ramos will look to buy a couple of players...despite this "no big deals" bullshit...Gus Poyet clearly said yesterday that they need some changes. I think shipping Berbatov out sooner or later will help (if they can replace him) his attitude is terrible.
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    Post by Dwarf Wed Jan 02, 2008 1:06 pm

    Sheffield gunner wrote:SSN just had a stat about Spurs saying they've conceded 19 goals from set pieces this season, and then the next highest total (I think Sunderland) was 11!

    Martin Laursen has scored 3 out of his 5 goals against Spurs. The freak of nature is in reality nothing special. <Ale>
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    Post by ads_afc Wed Jan 02, 2008 2:46 pm

    A relatively awful footballer, the Croatian is a lethal finisher


    Surely being a lethal finisher, makes someone a good footballer?!
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    Post by Hlebagone Wed Jan 02, 2008 3:27 pm

    "A relatively awful footballer, the Croatian is a lethal finisher. He also has an interesting knack of only being able to control the ball with one touch when in the immediate vicinity of the penalty box."

    Isnt that a massive contradiction?
    I'd say he's a far more limited athelete than he is a limited footballer...
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    Post by lrdsucksgoats Wed Jan 02, 2008 3:43 pm

    The point is that he's only effective at one thing...
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    Post by shazlx Wed Jan 02, 2008 3:44 pm

    ads_afc wrote:
    A relatively awful footballer, the Croatian is a lethal finisher


    Surely being a lethal finisher, makes someone a good footballer?!
    See Inzaghi.
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    Post by Hlebagone Wed Jan 02, 2008 3:52 pm

    Anas Al-Liby wrote:The point is that he's only effective at one thing...

    He has his strengths but he's decent on the ball - dribbling for example and his assist for croatia againt England shows good vision.
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    Post by lrdsucksgoats Wed Jan 02, 2008 3:55 pm

    Hlebadinho wrote:
    Anas Al-Liby wrote:The point is that he's only effective at one thing...

    He has his strengths but he's decent on the ball - dribbling for example and his assist for croatia againt England shows good vision.

    Assisting against TERRIBLE opposition doesn't really show anything. Sure, he's technically good, but he isn't a great assister, he can't cross, he can dribble but doesn't very often. He's basically a poacher. Now, there's nothing wrong with that and Arsenal could do with one...
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    Post by Luis Wed Jan 02, 2008 4:04 pm

    How can we be in the losers section without even playing? what bollocks
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    Post by ads_afc Wed Jan 02, 2008 4:06 pm

    Anas Al-Liby wrote:
    Hlebadinho wrote:
    Anas Al-Liby wrote:The point is that he's only effective at one thing...

    He has his strengths but he's decent on the ball - dribbling for example and his assist for croatia againt England shows good vision.

    Assisting against TERRIBLE opposition doesn't really show anything. Sure, he's technically good, but he isn't a great assister, he can't cross, he can dribble but doesn't very often. He's basically a poacher. Now, there's nothing wrong with that and Arsenal could do with one...

    But ok, the last few goals he's scored have been from inside the box, but look at the goal he scored against Sheffield United........

    And waht's more, he doesnt scored tap-ins like RVN - he's a real poacher.
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    Post by Parks lives Wed Jan 02, 2008 4:07 pm

    Batman wrote:

    Liverpool


    True to form, the club's fans have already rewritten their expectations, suggesting that if Liverpool finish the season within ten points of the champions then it would represent progress. Mathematically, the argument is valid; emotionally, it is delusional. This, lest we forget, was supposed to be Liverpool's year.
    [/i]

    Raises a really good point actually.
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    Post by Parks lives Wed Jan 02, 2008 4:08 pm

    ads_afc wrote:
    Anas Al-Liby wrote:
    Hlebadinho wrote:
    Anas Al-Liby wrote:The point is that he's only effective at one thing...

    He has his strengths but he's decent on the ball - dribbling for example and his assist for croatia againt England shows good vision.

    Assisting against TERRIBLE opposition doesn't really show anything. Sure, he's technically good, but he isn't a great assister, he can't cross, he can dribble but doesn't very often. He's basically a poacher. Now, there's nothing wrong with that and Arsenal could do with one...

    But ok, the last few goals he's scored have been from inside the box, but look at the goal he scored against Sheffield United........

    And waht's more, he doesnt scored tap-ins like RVN - he's a real poacher.

    RVN didn't only score tap ins either.
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    Post by Luis Wed Jan 02, 2008 4:09 pm

    Parks lives wrote:
    Batman wrote:

    Liverpool


    True to form, the club's fans have already rewritten their expectations, suggesting that if Liverpool finish the season within ten points of the champions then it would represent progress. Mathematically, the argument is valid; emotionally, it is delusional. This, lest we forget, was supposed to be Liverpool's year.
    [/i]

    Raises a really good point actually.

    Why was it meant to be our year? we have no divine right to the title, Chelsea, United and Arsenal aren't going to suddenly diminish are they?
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    Post by Parks lives Wed Jan 02, 2008 4:09 pm

    Because thats what you told everyone.
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    Post by Luis Wed Jan 02, 2008 4:11 pm

    Parks lives wrote:Because thats what you told everyone.

    Not really, I said we had a chance, of course we do, every year we do and I believed we were stronger and I think we are but just lacking one or two more quality players.

    I don't think United will win it anyway, Arsenal for me, they have a fantastic spirit this year
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    Post by COTR Wed Jan 02, 2008 4:11 pm

    Parks lives wrote:
    Batman wrote:

    Liverpool


    True to form, the club's fans have already rewritten their expectations, suggesting that if Liverpool finish the season within ten points of the champions then it would represent progress. Mathematically, the argument is valid; emotionally, it is delusional. This, lest we forget, was supposed to be Liverpool's year.
    [/i]

    Raises a really good point actually.

    Laugh

    The writer has found his target audience
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    Post by Luis Wed Jan 02, 2008 4:13 pm

    Why do people bother posting this garbage every week, the writer wanks off United and has very little to say
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    Post by Parks lives Wed Jan 02, 2008 4:19 pm

    Luis wrote:
    Parks lives wrote:Because thats what you told everyone.

    Not really, I said we had a chance, of course we do, every year we do and I believed we were stronger and I think we are but just lacking one or two more quality players.


    Every year you claim its your year in July/August (look where you were in September FFS), then come January when you have little chance of contending you claim you'd really be happy to just be close to the lead. When questioned on it, we get the standard response of were only a couple of players away and you really only said you have a decent chance.


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    Post by Dwarf Wed Jan 02, 2008 4:19 pm

    Luis wrote:Why do people bother posting this garbage every week, the writer wanks off United and has very little to say

    As nobody ever agrees with what they say. The same reason we let Otto and Puro post there garbage every week.
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    Post by Luis Wed Jan 02, 2008 4:20 pm

    Every year you're a wanker, some things don't change Spanky
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Wed Jan 02, 2008 5:37 pm

    COTR wrote:
    Parks lives wrote:
    Batman wrote:

    Liverpool


    True to form, the club's fans have already rewritten their expectations, suggesting that if Liverpool finish the season within ten points of the champions then it would represent progress. Mathematically, the argument is valid; emotionally, it is delusional. This, lest we forget, was supposed to be Liverpool's year.
    [/i]

    Raises a really good point actually.

    Laugh

    The writer has found his target audience

    I think he makes a good point about rewriting our expectations. We really should have 6-8 more points as a minimum. Dropping points at home to Birmingham and Spurs is unacceptable, while taking 2 points from home games against United, Chelsea and Arsenal really isn't good enough. Going unbeaten in the league until December merely masked the fact that we are closer to 9th than we are to 1st. I wont argue with intended agendas or wummery, but he's not wrong.
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    Post by The Pröfessör Wed Jan 02, 2008 5:51 pm

    2008: De Guzman's year wrote:Watch out for Kalou in 2008, he's getting more and more settled. How many assists does he already have (pity the likes of SWP waste a lot of sitters, otherwise he would have been in double figures).

    1 Francesc Fabregas............10
    Ashley Young....................10
    3 Dimitar Berbatov...............9
    4 Salomon Kalou..................8

    that´s only for the premier league.
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    Post by Black Magic Wed Jan 02, 2008 5:56 pm

    Anas Al-Liby wrote:
    Hlebadinho wrote:
    Anas Al-Liby wrote:The point is that he's only effective at one thing...

    He has his strengths but he's decent on the ball - dribbling for example and his assist for croatia againt England shows good vision.

    Assisting against TERRIBLE opposition doesn't really show anything. Sure, he's technically good, but he isn't a great assister, he can't cross, he can dribble but doesn't very often. He's basically a poacher. Now, there's nothing wrong with that and Arsenal could do with one...

    I don't agree with that, in the Pre season friendlies he showed that he's a wonderful crosser of the ball. I remember 3 or 4 crosses to Bendter against Nazio that went straight to his head. I also remember him getting in good crosses in the second half against Sparta Prague in the CL Qualifiers. He hasn't been allowed to demonstrate his crossing ability in the Premier League but that doesn't take away from him being a very good crosser of the ball.

    He is a great footballer with a footballing brain that would exceed most players in the division. In fact the only thing he really lacks is the athleticism. <Ale>
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    Post by L r d hAsta LueGo Wed Jan 02, 2008 8:33 pm

    Agooner wrote:
    2008: De Guzman's year wrote:Watch out for Kalou in 2008, he's getting more and more settled. How many assists does he already have (pity the likes of SWP waste a lot of sitters, otherwise he would have been in double figures).

    1 Francesc Fabregas............10
    Ashley Young....................10
    3 Dimitar Berbatov...............9
    4 Salomon Kalou..................8

    that´s only for the premier league.

    SHorey also has 9
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    Post by lrdsucksgoats Wed Jan 02, 2008 8:40 pm

    L r d wrote:
    Agooner wrote:
    2008: De Guzman's year wrote:Watch out for Kalou in 2008, he's getting more and more settled. How many assists does he already have (pity the likes of SWP waste a lot of sitters, otherwise he would have been in double figures).

    1 Francesc Fabregas............10
    Ashley Young....................10
    3 Dimitar Berbatov...............9
    4 Salomon Kalou..................8

    that´s only for the premier league.

    SHorey also has 9

    Should be playing for England.

    As should Young...
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    Post by fcb Fri Jan 04, 2008 1:20 pm

    The entire F365 website is very anti-Liverpool...not really pro MU, just that they love it when Liverpool mess up. Almost every week Liverpool are in the Losers section, and there are always so many editorials on how they screwed up Sleep

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