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    Post by Lordanger Thu May 08, 2008 8:47 pm

    Aguero needs 1 more for 20 league goals this season. not bad for a teenager.
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    Post by Jaime Thu May 08, 2008 8:51 pm

    golsud wrote:
    Jaime wrote:Atletico finally growing some testicles. ok

    When will Guti grow a pair?

    Hmm...that would take some doing...still more likely than you winning anything with Pep. Biggrin
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Thu May 08, 2008 8:51 pm

    golsud wrote:
    Jaime wrote:Atletico finally growing some testicles. ok

    When will Guti grow a pair?
    lol!

    the dynamic duo strike again
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    Post by fcb Thu May 08, 2008 8:51 pm

    Jaime wrote:Atletico finally growing some testicles. ok

    They are the worst "city rivals" ever...only f@cking turn up against us, or now when there's a chance to beat us to 3rd Doh
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    Post by golsud Thu May 08, 2008 8:52 pm

    Jaime wrote:
    golsud wrote:
    Jaime wrote:Atletico finally growing some testicles. ok

    When will Guti grow a pair?

    Hmm...that would take some doing...still more likely than you winning anything with Pep. Biggrin

    With Pep Barça have already won 6 leagues and a Champions League <Ale>
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    Post by Jaime Thu May 08, 2008 8:56 pm

    So now you want Pep? Found this in MD:

    Antes que entrenador del Barça, Pep Guardiola pudo ser el director deportivo del club azulgrana si la candidatura liderada por Lluís Bassat hubiera ganado las elecciones de 2003.

    En aquel proyecto, cuyos detalles solamente trascendieron una vez celebradas las elecciones, Guardiola había pensado en Ronald Koeman como entrenador y en algunos fichajes como los centrales Córdoba y Ayala, el centrocampista Emerson y los delanteros Reyes y Kewell. Uno de los defensas que también formaba parte de su agenda era el rumano Chivu, pretendido por el Barça la pasada campaña. A la postre vino Milito, que ahora se ha lesionado, así que Chivu aún valdría como recambio

    lol!
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    Post by golsud Thu May 08, 2008 8:59 pm

    No but just pointing out he has won titles with Barça Biggrin

    Look at which team ended up having Reyes & Emerson Whistle
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    Post by Jaime Thu May 08, 2008 9:03 pm

    golsud wrote:No but just pointing out he has won titles with Barça Biggrin

    Look at which team ended up having Reyes & Emerson Whistle

    True but it says a lot about your future manager that he holds Harry Kewell in such high esteem! I guess you do need a left winger to replace Ronaldinho. Laugh
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    Post by golsud Thu May 08, 2008 9:05 pm

    Jaime wrote:
    golsud wrote:No but just pointing out he has won titles with Barça Biggrin

    Look at which team ended up having Reyes & Emerson Whistle

    True but it says a lot about your future manager that he holds Harry Kewell in such high esteem! I guess you do need a left winger to replace Ronaldinho. Laugh

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    Post by Jaime Thu May 08, 2008 9:07 pm

    golsud wrote:
    Jaime wrote:
    golsud wrote:No but just pointing out he has won titles with Barça Biggrin

    Look at which team ended up having Reyes & Emerson Whistle

    True but it says a lot about your future manager that he holds Harry Kewell in such high esteem! I guess you do need a left winger to replace Ronaldinho. Laugh

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    Post by golsud Thu May 08, 2008 9:08 pm

    Jaime wrote:
    golsud wrote:
    Jaime wrote:
    golsud wrote:No but just pointing out he has won titles with Barça Biggrin

    Look at which team ended up having Reyes & Emerson Whistle

    True but it says a lot about your future manager that he holds Harry Kewell in such high esteem! I guess you do need a left winger to replace Ronaldinho. Laugh

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    At least in his debut he didn't score an own goal and got sent off Biggrin
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    Post by Jaime Thu May 08, 2008 9:09 pm

    golsud wrote:
    Jaime wrote:
    golsud wrote:
    Jaime wrote:
    golsud wrote:No but just pointing out he has won titles with Barça Biggrin

    Look at which team ended up having Reyes & Emerson Whistle

    True but it says a lot about your future manager that he holds Harry Kewell in such high esteem! I guess you do need a left winger to replace Ronaldinho. Laugh

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    At least in his debut he didn't score an own goal and got sent off Biggrin

    lol! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJsIoPSnhAA
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    Post by Jaime Thu May 08, 2008 9:42 pm

    Someone put an end to this miserable second half!
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    Post by Jaime Thu May 08, 2008 9:53 pm

    FT Espanyol 0 Atletico 2
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    Post by Torrente Thu May 08, 2008 9:59 pm

    Incredible. Espanol has pulled one of the biggest chokes I can remember in La Liga. I think in the whole second round this is the first time Atletico got two wins in a row, yet they're still fourth. Too bad Sevilla had such a bad start to the season. They would do much better than Patetico in the CL next year Erm
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Fri May 09, 2008 8:42 am

    fooking get in, gievn our head to head records v Sevilla and Racing, we are one win away from ECL football.

    Torrente I'm sure you are correct re our first season in the ECL for some time, BUT longer term we are defo a better bet than them with some continuity mangerially
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    Post by fcb Fri May 09, 2008 9:26 am

    Aguero in the CL next season Magic
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    Post by Calidad Fri May 09, 2008 10:16 am

    Jaime wrote:Someone put an end to this miserable second half!

    Yea the 2nd half was awful

    Just one more win for Atleti
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Fri May 09, 2008 10:18 am

    Given Depo will have had an extra days rest right at the end of the season, i'm sure we were just trying to conserve as much energy as possible before Sunday's BIG game.
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    Post by Calidad Fri May 09, 2008 10:21 am

    The-Frank-Tavern wrote:Given Depo will have had an extra days rest right at the end of the season, i'm sure we were just trying to conserve as much energy as possible before Sunday's BIG game.

    Dare I say it, but Kun looks out on his feet at times. He's about to complete his second season without any sort of rest/break - don't think he'd had any injury's either. He's obviously going to the Olympics too, so won't have a break this season either.

    Much is made about Atleti's defensive woes, but another striker is needed too, just to allow a bit of rotation. Even someone like Negredo could possibly come in to be that player.
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Fri May 09, 2008 10:31 am

    yeah i'm worried about these olympics the kid defo needs a rest. I'm surprised we haven't used maxi up front now and again to give him a rest.

    We defo need a RB and a couple of CDs. A CM as we can't rely on Motta, and a striker.

    Out for me Cleber, Ze Castro (the portuguese were right about him when we signed him), Mista.

    Unfortuantely I can see us giving Reyes another year, and Luis Garcia.

    Ideally any new signings will be Spanish as we need to boost this element as otherwise our ECL will be smaller than permitted.
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    Post by Jaime Fri May 09, 2008 2:12 pm

    The-Frank-Tavern wrote:fooking get in, gievn our head to head records v Sevilla and Racing, we are one win away from ECL football.

    Torrente I'm sure you are correct re our first season in the ECL for some time, BUT longer term we are defo a better bet than them with some continuity mangerially

    Yeah, congrats on the win. I agree with you too, Atletico are the bigger club, easily, and in if they can re-consolidate them as the 3rd club in spain, the directors have the ambition and the fans are there for them to be a regular, CL participant and one that is very competitive. Even though it'd still be funny if you were relegated again.
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Fri May 09, 2008 2:16 pm

    Jaime wrote:Even though it'd still be funny if you were relegated again.
    barsteward Wink
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Fri May 09, 2008 2:20 pm

    this was in response to a comment on an atleti message baord but you'll get the drift on my thoughts

    I know what your saying, I'm not so much celebrating, but IF we do make 4th I'll be extremely happy. This is progress, I'm convinced our sides of past years who have bottled it last night just as we did on the final day last season. Slowly Slowly catchy monkey. Our side has been badly managed from the top for far too long, and the 96 doble only papered over these cracks. We are defo making progress and IF we can re-qualify for the ECL next season having made the group stages, I will see this as progress too. I'd prefer to be patient and have something sustainable than see one great year followed by too many more mediocre years. Apart from Madriz and Farsa v few Spanish teams in recent years have been able to maintain a ECL and La Liga challenge in the same season, so that is a major challenge for us, as i said IF we are able to do this next season that his BIG progress. Why do the big 4 in England continue to perform v well in the Domestic league and ECL, simply v regular ECL football and all the money this provides. If we can manage this we'll be well on our way to challenging the other 2 for years to come both domestically and in Europe, as our support base is massive.

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    Post by Jaime Fri May 09, 2008 2:25 pm

    No, I agree. Especially with Valencia floundering as they are you have a real chance - like I said before - to reestablish yourselves as the 3rd team in Spain. This summer is going to be really critical. You've got quality but you really need to bring in some more very good players and make shrewd buys. It's not going to help qualifying for CL and then next year finishing in Intertoto places.
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Fri May 09, 2008 2:29 pm

    precisely, worse - think intertoto gets scrapped then too!!!!!!!!!
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    Post by Calidad Fri May 09, 2008 2:39 pm

    That's a good post Frank.

    I'd like to add that I think Sevilla, and Valencia, as well as Atleti are all perfect candidates for challenging Real and Barca. All have big support bases, talented players, and a 'reasonable' amount of money - at least compared to most other La Liga sides. I think Atleti are also building a new stadium, right? That will in the long run provide more revenue as well. I'd like to see these clubs get more consistency.

    Others will of course mention Villarreal, but I'm not as convinced that they will sustain their recent success in future years, so I'll reserve judgment.
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    Post by fcb Fri May 09, 2008 2:46 pm

    Yeah it's sad because La Liga could easily have 6 very strong teams that can all challenge for the title and reach the QFs of the CL regularly - Barça, Atletico, Valencia, Sevilla, Villarreal, and Depor. But unfortunately every season something goes wrong with 2 or 3 of these clubs.


    (ok, I was kidding about Depor Razz )
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Fri May 09, 2008 3:11 pm

    thing with Villarreal (really admire what they've done in a town that size, and boy having been there it is small) but as soon as Pellegrini goes I fear for them
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    Post by fcb Fri May 09, 2008 3:13 pm

    Well I doubt he's going anywhere...not many rumours linking him away.

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