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    Post by Luis Tue Sep 05, 2006 11:29 am

    for me its Steven Gerrard,

    he's got everything, if you're o the down Gerrard will pick you back up, he's jus so determined, must be a pleasure to play with him, top class.
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    Post by Parks lives Tue Sep 05, 2006 11:30 am

    You've picked a Liverpool player. Surprised

    I'll say between Gary Neville, Rio Ferdinand and Wayne Rooney.
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    Post by Luis Tue Sep 05, 2006 11:31 am

    oh i see what you've done there, very clever Very Happy
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Tue Sep 05, 2006 11:32 am

    I´ll go for the overseas rep. Owen Hargreaves
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    Post by Roger Hunt Tue Sep 05, 2006 11:32 am

    Oh good, a Liverpool vs Man U thread!

    I couldn't choose between Gerrard and Rooney for the first name on the team sheet.
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    Post by L r d Tue Sep 05, 2006 11:32 am

    Owen Hargreaves > Crouch > Gerrard
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    Post by Luis Tue Sep 05, 2006 11:33 am

    Rooneys awsome as well mate
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    Post by Parks lives Tue Sep 05, 2006 11:34 am

    I'll plump for Hargreaves as well, he's fast becoming England's most important player.

    & he's a future United player!
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    Post by COTR Tue Sep 05, 2006 11:34 am

    well crouch has just become the most prolific striker in english history in a calendar year so there can only be one candidate
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    Post by Axeslammer Tue Sep 05, 2006 11:38 am

    Heskey, Robinson & Lampard !
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    Post by Roger Hunt Tue Sep 05, 2006 11:39 am

    Well , Heskey>Henry. True Story. Wink
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    Post by Isco Benny Tue Sep 05, 2006 11:43 am

    Gerrard is Englands best 1st team player.

    Neville and Robinson are Englands most irreplaceable players - no one can really replace them at the moment.

    Hargreaves is the most crucial 1st team player- without him we all know what happens to the rest of the team.

    Carrick is the best player not in the England 1st team.
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    Post by SteveOoO Tue Sep 05, 2006 12:48 pm

    Rooney when he is on fire, but normally Gerrard (except in the world cup).
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    Post by E.M. Tue Sep 05, 2006 12:57 pm

    Rooney>Gerrard>Hargreaves>Ferdinand>J Cole>A Cole>The Rest.

    and thats a neutral's view Cool
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    Post by Kroos Tue Sep 05, 2006 12:59 pm

    why the hell is rooney the best Shocked

    he did nothing in the last 2 years, only red cards

    this guy is a joke
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    Post by E.M. Tue Sep 05, 2006 1:01 pm

    why the hell is rooney the best

    he did nothing in the last 2 years, only red cards

    this guy is a joke

    if thats true then England's National Team is in trouble
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    Post by COTR Tue Sep 05, 2006 1:02 pm

    Deisler wrote:why the hell is rooney the best Shocked

    he did nothing in the last 2 years, only red cards

    this guy is a joke
    yes but deisler >>> gerrard after all
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    Post by Kroos Tue Sep 05, 2006 1:12 pm

    COTR wrote:
    Deisler wrote:why the hell is rooney the best Shocked

    he did nothing in the last 2 years, only red cards

    this guy is a joke
    yes but deisler >>> gerrard after all

    true
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    Post by Isco Benny Tue Sep 05, 2006 1:34 pm

    Deisler wrote:why the hell is rooney the best Shocked

    he did nothing in the last 2 years, only red cards

    this guy is a joke

    He's done more than Spastian Deisler has, yet you rate him. Explain pls
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    Post by Axeslammer Tue Sep 05, 2006 1:39 pm

    E.M. wrote:Rooney>Gerrard>Hargreaves>Ferdinand>J Cole>A Cole>The Rest.

    Gerrard > Terry = Rooney > J Cole > Hargreaves > The Rest > Robinson > Heskey > Sneijder


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    and thats a neutral's view Cool

    Same here
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    Post by Machiavel Tue Sep 05, 2006 1:41 pm

    @ Axeslammer !

    Rooney > Scholes > Gerrard > Sneijder > Hargreaves > Lampard
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    Post by Tweesus Tue Sep 05, 2006 1:43 pm

    Gerrard and Rooney are IMO equal.

    Below that you have Rio and Cole (both)

    IMO
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    Post by L r d Tue Sep 05, 2006 1:45 pm

    Rooney is the best player

    rooney>gerrard>hargreaves>rio
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    Post by Parks lives Tue Sep 05, 2006 1:47 pm

    Rooney = Gerrard > Hargreaves = Ferdinand > Neville = A Cole = J Cole.
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    Post by Tweesus Tue Sep 05, 2006 1:48 pm

    Forgot Hargreaves Doh

    Mine is similar to Parky, though Neville wouldn't be quite that high because he still seems to have problems doing basic passing
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    Post by Roger Hunt Tue Sep 05, 2006 1:49 pm

    Parks Ale

    Tough to argue with. I might suggest the 2 Coles > Neville just based on age, but on performances at the moment I agree with you.
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    Post by Parks lives Tue Sep 05, 2006 1:55 pm

    I suppose with Neville its replacements as well, so he is very important.

    Neville is miles in front of Pip Neville and Young, where as Ashley Cole is better than Bridge but not by that much.

    I think we can replace Joe Cole as well.
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    Post by Roger Hunt Tue Sep 05, 2006 1:59 pm

    Yes, if you are talking 'most important' as opposed to 'best' I can see where you're coming from.

    In JC's case though, I would argue that he does give us a different dimension, particularly against better opposition. I don't think Downing is at the same level yet.
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    Post by dont panic! Tue Sep 05, 2006 2:06 pm

    Roger_Hunt wrote:Yes, if you are talking 'most important' as opposed to 'best' I can see where you're coming from.

    In JC's case though, I would argue that he does give us a different dimension, particularly against better opposition. I don't think Downing is at the same level yet.

    absolutely...JC does things no other english player can...the unexpected..

    he scares his opponent..they have to back off and thus he gets time others wouldnt..his cross for drogba against bayern was the perfect example.
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    Post by Kroos Tue Sep 05, 2006 2:16 pm

    The Real White Pele wrote:
    Deisler wrote:why the hell is rooney the best Shocked

    he did nothing in the last 2 years, only red cards

    this guy is a joke

    He's done more than Spastian Deisler has, yet you rate him. Explain pls

    hmm i would never say Deisler> ballack>klose or something like that


    Rooney is only hype, without hype nobody on earht would know him about football, because he was never impressive, only euro2004, say thanks to english press

    rooney does not score, doens not assist, why the hell you talk he is so important to england, yeahh he has a shit persoality too with no respect to other players

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