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    How good was Marcos Senna last night????

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    Post by Kimbo Fri Jun 27, 2008 6:32 pm

    In what way is Serie A getting better?
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    Post by Tweesus Fri Jun 27, 2008 6:36 pm

    The wealth of young players in Serie A is finally coming of age Ale
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    Post by BoBo Vieri 32 Fri Jun 27, 2008 6:39 pm

    El Kimbo wrote:In what way is Serie A getting better?

    the teams are getting better.
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    Post by Kimbo Fri Jun 27, 2008 6:44 pm

    Gigi Buffon #1 wrote:
    El Kimbo wrote:In what way is Serie A getting better?

    the teams are getting better.

    No they're not.
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    Post by Batman Fri Jun 27, 2008 6:55 pm

    For the short term, he would have made a really good signing for Man Utd and we came very close to signing him but instead we got Carrick and then Hargreaves.

    A lot of money but I can't complain...

    Spoiler:
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    Post by BoBo Vieri 32 Fri Jun 27, 2008 7:17 pm

    El Kimbo wrote:
    Gigi Buffon #1 wrote:
    El Kimbo wrote:In what way is Serie A getting better?

    the teams are getting better.

    No they're not.

    yes they are
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    Post by S4P Sat Jun 28, 2008 12:56 pm

    Gigi Buffon #1 wrote:
    Ballack wrote:
    Gigi Buffon #1 wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:
    Gigi Buffon #1 wrote:
    L.r.d wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:He should move to a bigger and better club like Fiorentina Laugh

    Laugh Biggrin

    3 seasons running in the top 4 now Lrd!

    That would be impressive if the league wasn't getting progressively worse.

    better you mean?
    half the teams were missing because half of them cheated, fiorentina are probably on par with dag and red. fact.

    half?

    juve was only the real big team missing.

    Nice try, but it's quite clear that your still very upset about what happened to your bum boy Cech in the Euro's. Best keeper in the world Laugh Laugh Laugh

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FophRwEl7o&feature=related (4:55 onwards)
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    Post by EMP Sat Jun 28, 2008 5:35 pm

    How long do people think Senna can carry on at this level. He is almost 32 now, both for club and country.
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    Post by Jaime Sat Jun 28, 2008 5:40 pm

    Calidad wrote:
    EMP wrote:
    Calidad wrote:He has played extraordinarily well. Spain's most consistent performer thus far. I'm happy for him, he is a hard-worker and after coming off the back of a fantastic season at Villarreal he continued in that vein for the national side.

    Without opening a can of worms in the 'should he, shouldn't he be playing for Spain' argument, it may be a step in the right direction for some of the endemic racism in the country. Maybe not, but just a thought

    Senna has some interesting views on racism

    See http://empower-sport.com/index.php?categoryid=1&p2_articleid=52

    and his club has the toughest anti-racist policy around. About time Spain got some credit for it.

    I wasn't aware of the previous black players.

    And you're right it is interesting to hear that he hasn't experienced any racism in Spain, nor believes it to be a racist country. Maybe it is a genuine belief, maybe he feels he is in a position where he can't speak out?

    At least Engonga was born in Spain, well, Cataluña Biggrin, but I'm still not in favour of Brasilians playing for Spain, Portugal, Turkey, Croatia, Tunisia, Japan or wherever else they can get a passport. It's a bit ridiculous.
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    Post by EMP Sat Jun 28, 2008 5:52 pm

    Calidad wrote:
    EMP wrote:
    Calidad wrote:He has played extraordinarily well. Spain's most consistent performer thus far. I'm happy for him, he is a hard-worker and after coming off the back of a fantastic season at Villarreal he continued in that vein for the national side.

    Without opening a can of worms in the 'should he, shouldn't he be playing for Spain' argument, it may be a step in the right direction for some of the endemic racism in the country. Maybe not, but just a thought

    Senna has some interesting views on racism

    See http://empower-sport.com/index.php?categoryid=1&p2_articleid=52

    and his club has the toughest anti-racist policy around. About time Spain got some credit for it.

    I wasn't aware of the previous black players.

    And you're right it is interesting to hear that he hasn't experienced any racism in Spain, nor believes it to be a racist country. Maybe it is a genuine belief, maybe he feels he is in a position where he can't speak out?

    Pretty sure he genuinely believes it. He supports tough penalties for it and supports Eto'o. He's not an apologist. I think he's genuine. Not every black player in Spain gets racist abuse. Interesting that such a high profile player doesn't suffer it though. Also pathetic that most media refuse to cover Senna's views. Seems like maintaining the stereotype that Spain is racist is more important than the facts as expressed by the highest profile black Spanish player.
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    Post by DeLux Sat Jun 28, 2008 6:24 pm

    Engonga and Donato were club legends at Mallorca and Depor. I'm not sure about their standing in the national team though.

    Catanha had a couple of good seasons for Malaga before we signed him. He only played three games though.
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    Post by fcb Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:15 am

    Great article about Senna...provides insight into his career and his personality, which is interesting reading since not many of us know much about him.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/jun/29/euro2008.spain

    Also contains a brief insight into why Aragones is generally a successful coach (something I also read elsewhere a few days back) - he may not be tactically brilliant, or very diplomatic or loved by fans, but he makes sure he's loved by the players and can really motivate them to play for each other.
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:19 am

    tbf his tactics have been spot on this tournie and he's made sime v good substitutions, that have affected matches
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    Post by The Pröfessör Sun Jun 29, 2008 12:56 pm

    kas wrote:Great article about Senna...provides insight into his career and his personality, which is interesting reading since not many of us know much about him.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/jun/29/euro2008.spain

    Also contains a brief insight into why Aragones is generally a successful coach (something I also read elsewhere a few days back) - he may not be tactically brilliant, or very diplomatic or loved by fans, but he makes sure he's loved by the players and can really motivate them to play for each other.

    Hope we buy him as a short term Flamini replacement till our youngsters develop but can't see Wenger doing it.
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    Post by Calidad Sun Jun 29, 2008 1:44 pm

    I think it is also worth noting that Senna has done a sterling job as a DM, despite it not actually being his true position or one he is even accustomed to at Villarreal

    Great pro too
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    Post by Cesc Soler Sun Jun 29, 2008 1:46 pm

    Hlebtastic wrote:Hope we buy him as a short term Flamini replacement till our youngsters develop but can't see Wenger doing it.
    That would be great. But with Villarreal back in the Champions League next season it just won't happen.

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