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    Post by mongrel hawk Sun May 06, 2007 9:50 pm

    Brazilian League to begin next weekend.

    first round:

    Figueirense x Atlético-PR
    Fluminense x Cruzeiro
    São Paulo x Goiás
    Atlético-MG x Náutico
    Internacional x Botafogo
    Flamengo x Palmeiras
    Paraná x Grêmio
    Corinthians x Juventude
    América-RN x Vasco
    Sport x Santos






    _________________________________________

    titles per year:

    1971 Atlético (MG)
    1972 Palmeiras(SP)
    1973 Palmeiras(SP)
    1974 Vasco (RJ)
    1975 Internacional (RS)
    1976 Internacional (RS)
    1977 São Paulo(SP)
    1978 Guarani(SP)
    1979 Internacional (RS)
    1980 Flamengo (RJ)
    1981 Grêmio (RS)
    1982 Flamengo (RJ)
    1983 Flamengo (RJ)
    1984 Fluminense(RJ)
    1985 Coritiba (PR)
    1986 São Paulo(SP)
    1987 Flamengo (RJ)
    1988 Bahia (BA)
    1989 Vasco (RJ)
    1990 Corinthians(SP)
    1991 São Paulo(SP)
    1992 Flamengo (RJ)
    1993 Palmeiras(SP)
    1994 Palmeiras(SP)
    1995 Botafogo (RJ)
    1996 Grêmio (RS)
    1997 Vasco (RJ)
    1998 Corinthians(SP)
    1999 Corinthians(SP)
    2000 Vasco (RJ)
    2001 Atlético (PR)
    2002 Santos (SP)
    2003 Cruzeiro (MG)
    2004 Santos (SP)
    2005 Corinthians(SP)
    2006 São Paulo(SP)


    per club:

    Flamengo 5

    Corinthians 4
    São Paulo 4
    Vasco 4
    Palmeiras 4

    Internacional 3

    Santos 2
    Grêmio 2

    Atlético Mineiro 1
    Cruzeiro 1
    Botafogo 1
    Bahia 1
    Coritiba 1
    Fluminense 1
    Guarani 1
    Atlético Paranaense 1


    per State:

    São Paulo 15
    Rio de Janeiro 11
    Rio Grande do Sul 5
    Minas Gerais 2
    Paraná 2
    Bahia 1


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    Post by Tweesus Mon May 07, 2007 12:26 am

    Hope Corinthians win ok
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    Post by Rosicky Mon May 07, 2007 12:28 am

    Tweedle wrote:Hope Corinthians win ok

    i think they are more likely to be relegated then win it.

    judging by what todo has been saying.
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    Post by None Mon May 07, 2007 12:30 am

    Is Romario going to play on?
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    Post by Tweesus Mon May 07, 2007 12:30 am

    Rosicky wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:Hope Corinthians win ok

    i think they are more likely to be relegated then win it.

    judging by what todo has been saying.

    Why should that affect me supporting them rosicky?

    Its purely for the anglo link
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    Post by Rosicky Mon May 07, 2007 12:31 am

    Tweedle wrote:
    Rosicky wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:Hope Corinthians win ok

    i think they are more likely to be relegated then win it.

    judging by what todo has been saying.

    Why should that affect me supporting them rosicky?

    Its purely for the anglo link

    scratch

    what? i didnt say you shouldnt support them

    just pointing out they dont stand a good chance of winning it.
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    Post by mongrel hawk Mon May 07, 2007 1:05 am

    @Tweeds

    thanks for the support ok , but Rosicky is right. we gotta be careful about relegation.

    @waft

    I suppose he will.
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    Post by Formerly known as sheva7 Mon May 07, 2007 3:03 am

    You should support Gilberto's former club Atletico-MG. Smile

    This tournament is going to be totally unpredictable.
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    Post by mongrel hawk Mon May 07, 2007 4:27 am

    sheva7 wrote:This tournament is going to be totally unpredictable.

    as ever. The Campeonato Brasileiro is probably the most unpredictable in the world.

    36 editions till now, 16 different champions. 12 teams considered big expecting nothing less than a place in Libertadores.
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    Post by Tweesus Mon May 07, 2007 10:46 am

    sheva7 wrote:You should support Gilberto's former club Atletico-MG. Smile

    This tournament is going to be totally unpredictable.

    Do they have a good chance?

    Nah, I'm sticking with Corinthians. They're named after a club quite close to where I used to live

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corinthians_F.C.
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    Post by Formerly known as sheva7 Mon May 07, 2007 3:54 pm

    Tweedle wrote:
    sheva7 wrote:You should support Gilberto's former club Atletico-MG. Smile

    This tournament is going to be totally unpredictable.

    Do they have a good chance?

    Nah, I'm sticking with Corinthians. They're named after a club quite close to where I used to live

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corinthians_F.C.

    No, we don't have a good chance because our squad is too young, but maybe we can fight for a Libertadores spot. So far we're having a good season. Our fans are amazing, last year we had by far the highest attendance average of our country, despite playing in the 2nd division for the first time in our history.

    The last four editions of the Brazilian championship were predictable; Cruzeiro, Santos, Corinthians and São Paulo had the best squads and won the championship. This time it´s really hard to say which club has the best players. How I miss the play-offs...
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    Post by mongrel hawk Mon May 07, 2007 5:12 pm

    me too. I hate this format with no final.

    sheva7 wrote:How I miss the play-offs...
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    Post by mongrel hawk Mon May 07, 2007 5:21 pm

    there's another anglo link: our saint, São Jorge (Saint George).



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    sheva7 wrote:You should support Gilberto's former club Atletico-MG. :)

    This tournament is going to be totally unpredictable.

    Do they have a good chance?

    Nah, I'm sticking with Corinthians. They're named after a club quite close to where I used to live

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corinthians_F.C.
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    Post by mongrel hawk Mon May 28, 2007 1:29 am

    after 3 rounds:

    libertadores
    sulamericana
    relegation



    1 - Paraná 9

    2 - Corinthians 7
    Palmeiras 7
    Vasco 7
    Botafogo 7

    6 - Atlético-PR 6
    Grêmio 6

    8 - Fluminense 4
    São Paulo 4
    Flamengo 4
    Náutico 4
    Atlético-MG 4

    13 - Sport 3
    América-RN 3
    Goiás 3
    Figueirense 3
    Santos 3

    18 - Cruzeiro 1

    19 - Juventude 0
    Internacional 0
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    Post by Rosicky Mon May 28, 2007 1:41 am

    corinthians started well then?
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    Post by ads_afc Mon May 28, 2007 2:06 am

    thats shocking for santos.
    does anyone have a game in hand?
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    Post by mongrel hawk Mon May 28, 2007 4:07 am

    @rosicky

    yes, 1-0 Juventude, 3-0 Cruzeiro (away), 0-0 Atlético-MG.

    we'll play Santos on Sunday. it's too early though. We haven't played against a real good team yet. but our defense is still unbeaten, and that's very good news. It seems our new coach is finding his way with the players.


    @ads

    Santos and Grêmio are playing their B-teams in the first matches because of Libertadores. but I think Santos will play their A-team against Corinthians on Sunday, since it's an important Derby here.

    Figueirense and Fluminense will also play their B-teams because of the Copa do Brasil final (our FA cup).

    all teams have played 3 games.



    interesting thing is that Libertadores and World Club Cup champions Internacional lost their 3 matches up to now.
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    Post by DD Mon May 28, 2007 3:40 pm

    Keep posting todo! ok Ale
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    Post by mongrel hawk Mon May 28, 2007 6:09 pm

    <Ale> Very Happy

    I'll try to post the table every 3 rounds.


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    Post by Puro Mon May 28, 2007 7:32 pm

    I could've swore São Caetano won it all in 2001, and that Cruzeiro were the champs in 2000. cheers
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    Post by Formerly known as sheva7 Mon May 28, 2007 11:31 pm

    todo wrote:@rosicky

    yes, 1-0 Juventude, 3-0 Cruzeiro (away), 0-0 Atlético-MG.

    we'll play Santos on Sunday. it's too early though. We haven't played against a real good team yet. but our defense is still unbeaten, and that's very good news. It seems our new coach is finding his way with the players.


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    Santos and Grêmio are playing their B-teams in the first matches because of Libertadores. but I think Santos will play their A-team against Corinthians on Sunday, since it's an important Derby here.

    Figueirense and Fluminense will also play their B-teams because of the Copa do Brasil final (our FA cup).

    all teams have played 3 games.



    interesting thing is that Libertadores and World Club Cup champions Internacional lost their 3 matches up to now.

    Is there any real good team apart from Santos until they lose Zé Roberto?

    Good match last saturday. We were a little bit better in the first hald, then you dominated the second. William was very impressive.
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    Post by mongrel hawk Tue May 29, 2007 12:08 am

    I think São Paulo is still the best team in Brazil. I just hope those fuckers won't find their way too soon.

    I didn't watch Corinthians - Atlético MG. I listened to it in the radio. The game was at Morumbi, and I hate to go there, as well as many Corintianos.

    Willian is being a surprise to me, cause he was $h!t for under-21 Brazil (was it under 21 or 17? I don't remember).



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    todo wrote:@rosicky

    yes, 1-0 Juventude, 3-0 Cruzeiro (away), 0-0 Atlético-MG.

    we'll play Santos on Sunday. it's too early though. We haven't played against a real good team yet. but our defense is still unbeaten, and that's very good news. It seems our new coach is finding his way with the players.


    @ads

    Santos and Grêmio are playing their B-teams in the first matches because of Libertadores. but I think Santos will play their A-team against Corinthians on Sunday, since it's an important Derby here.

    Figueirense and Fluminense will also play their B-teams because of the Copa do Brasil final (our FA cup).

    all teams have played 3 games.



    interesting thing is that Libertadores and World Club Cup champions Internacional lost their 3 matches up to now.

    Is there any real good team apart from Santos until they lose Zé Roberto?

    Good match last saturday. We were a little bit better in the first hald, then you dominated the second. William was very impressive.
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    Post by fcb Sun Jun 03, 2007 4:57 am

    I read a rumour that Barça and Milan are interested in Carlos Eduardo of Gremio? Is there any truth in this?

    How good is he, and is he ready for Europe, considering he's only 19?
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    Post by mongrel hawk Mon Jun 04, 2007 3:03 am

    I've heard "he's going to Europe next season", but I don't know the club. I think he's good. he scored the second against Santos on Wednesday.

    kas wrote:I read a rumour that Barça and Milan are interested in Carlos Eduardo of Gremio? Is there any truth in this?

    How good is he, and is he ready for Europe, considering he's only 19?
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    Post by christmasborocooper Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:19 pm

    yo

    We've been linked with that Kerlon fella today...will probably come to nothing knowing how the paper rumours go but anyway. Is he any good? or is he just all about that $h!t seal dribble thing?

    I think I remember Sheva saying he got an injury a while back and never looked the same?
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    Post by Formerly known as sheva7 Tue Jun 05, 2007 4:40 pm

    Kerlon is pure hype. He took ages to score his first goal as a pro. He got another serious injury a few months ago.
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    Post by christmasborocooper Tue Jun 05, 2007 5:27 pm

    sounds like the type of player we'd sign

    cheers ok
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    Post by mongrel hawk Mon Jun 18, 2007 12:20 am

    after 6 rounds:

    * All teams played 6 games, except for Botafogo and Vasco, that played 7 each.

    Libertadores, Sulamericana, Relegation


    1 - Botafogo 17

    2 - Corinthians 12

    3 - Paraná 11
    Atlético-MG 11

    Vasco 11

    6 - São Paulo 10

    7 - Goiás 9
    Figueirense 9
    Fluminense 9



    10 - Atlético-PR 8
    Palmeiras 8


    12 - Cruzeiro 7
    Internacional 7
    Santos 7

    15 - Juventude 6
    Grêmio 6
    Flamengo 6

    18 - Sport 5
    Náutico 5


    20 - América-RN 4
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    Post by Formerly known as sheva7 Mon Jun 18, 2007 1:28 am

    We're doing well, mate! Ale
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    Post by mongrel hawk Mon Jun 18, 2007 4:31 am

    right, but I'm afraid we'll go down too soon. we've lost our 2 creative playmakers, Lulinha and Willian. The game on Saturday was horrible. Good defence, pitiful atack.


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